Blacks running out of excuses to blame their failures on?

[BM OUT]

The biggest enemy to blacks are liberal whites?  Why not just liberals?  You know how many black liberal female adminstrators there are in the LA public school system?  You're just like big_mal blaiming all the problems and plight of blacks on white people.  In this day and age that's bullshit......50 years ago you might have had an argument due to racism but now?  Hell no! Maybe when blacks realize there are more important things to life than "lambos" and "football" they'll start to excel in other things besides pro sports.  I grew up with a mom that worked full time 10 hour days and still managed to come home dead tired, put food on the table, and make sure my homework was done.  This whole sob story of the overworked black mom is pathetic.  Where are the black dads?  My dad was busting his ass right along side my mom.  I was middle class!  And the only reason my family stayed middle class is because my parents worked their asses off and handled their responsiblities i.e. THEIR FUCKING KIDS they brought into this world.  My father was a first generation immigrant.  He had his fair share of stereotyping, racism, and polak jokes.  He spoke 5 languages, most black kids can't even speak one correctly.  And it's all  because white women are teaching black kids in the public school??? LOL.   

No,its because liberals think they owe the black everything.So they bus them into schools they are ill prepared for all in the name of "helping them".They give them welfare and reward black families if the father leaves by giving the mother more government help.They excuse everything they do by blaming whites.

You miss my whole point.Blacks can do everything whites can if the fucking filthy government and libs would get the hell out of the way and stop trying to manage them.Stop trying to "help" them,they are perfectly capeable of making it without the white mans help.Let them controll their own lives without whites thinking they have to push them along like childeren.

Lastly,the reason blacks love football and lambos is because the filthy Jewish media pushes that crap on them every single day.MTV and the like glorify the ultimate stupidity and blacks see this crap and think "thats the life".Ever see MTV just show a hard working black family living a normal life?Nope,its always fucking cribs or some other stupid ass show.You cant strive for what you cant see.

[Deicide]

No,its because liberals think they owe the black everything.So they bus them into schools they are ill prepared for all in the name of "helping them".They give them welfare and reward black families if the father leaves by giving the mother more government help.They excuse everything they do by blaming whites.

You miss my whole point.Blacks can do everything whites can if the fucking filthy government and libs would get the hell out of the way and stop trying to manage them.Stop trying to "help" them,they are perfectly capeable of making it without the white mans help.Let them controll their own lives without whites thinking they have to push them along like childeren.

Lastly,the reason blacks love football and lambos is because the filthy Jewish media pushes that crap on them every single day.MTV and the like glorify the ultimate stupidity and blacks see this crap and think "thats the life".Ever see MTV just show a hard working black family living a normal life?Nope,its always fucking cribs or some other stupid ass show.You cant strive for what you cant see.

So, do the Jews control everything? What happens if someone converts to Judaism, do they get initiated into the secret organisation to take over the world?

[Soul Crusher]

Look how Bill Cosby got shut down. 

[Deicide]

Look how Bill Cosby got shut down. 

Don't tell me you are one of these 'worldwide jewish conspiracy' people?

[Soul Crusher]

Don't tell me you are one of these 'worldwide jewish conspiracy' people?

Absolutely not.  Bill Cosby got shut down by liberal blacks and liberal whites because his message did not resonate with their welfare slave plantation where they are the overseers. 

[BM OUT]

Don't tell me you are one of these 'worldwide jewish conspiracy' people?

Do Jews not controll the media?

[Soul Crusher]

Do Jews not controll the media?

Whether they do or not is not the issue. 

The issue is that Liberal do-gooders have sold blacks a false bill of goods that has done more damage than any "enemy" could ever have accomplished. 

Too many minorities have bought into the welfare plantation mentality and it is sad to see the results.  Guys like Big_Mal seem to be the type that are needed to stem this tide.  But he is only one guy.

Nothing will change until the culture is changed.   
 

[Option D]

No offense big_mal you are a good guy, obviously educated and motivated to succeed but your attitude is exactly what's wrong with black people. 

1) Just because your black doesn't mean you are the only ones living in poor, crime ridden, dangerous neighborhoods.  Lots of white kids grow up in piss poor violent neighborhoods.  Hell you don't even have to go to the city to see how bad some white kids have it.......just drive into some rural areas. 

2)  What's with teaching black youth how to be "black" men?  Why not teach them how to be MEN period? 

Maybe instead of teaching football and trying to be "cool" you should spend your time sitting down with black kids teaching them math, science, and physiology.  Sorry but this subject really touches a nerve with me.  I grew up in the public school system and many of my family members are public school teachers, and no not all teachers are liberal feministic females.  The issue is hardly as cut and dry as blacks taking back their schools and teaching black boys how to be "black" men.  The only coherent argument in your entire post was the fact that parents black white or purple, need to be held accountable and start taking responsibility for their kids and holding themselves and their children accountable.  The biggest gripe among ANY teacher in ANY school is the PARENTAL GUIDANCE/DISICPLINE or lack there of. 

No offense taken at all. This is America and we all have different experiences that contribute to our different outlooks on life.

Im gonna go issue by issue.
I coach football right now because in the mornings im at school so i cant teach a regular subject. But the class room is not the platform i want to use,  And found that if i take the time after school (when they dont feel like learning math no more) I coach them in football but everyday i slip life lessons in there. Im from the streets, born and raised in South Central LA. I know who inner city boys listen to. I dont want to look like another dude telling them what not to do. I serve as living proof. Like when I pull up in my nice car (provided by my sister) nice clothes , always take care of my boys...the boys say "man i wanna be like coach pigford" then thats when they are open to talk about what they got going on and how to help their future. So being cool (i know it sounds dumb) goes far with a city kid.

As far as Rural kids and what not. I know they have it tough. But the struggles are different and its hard to try to lead a kid through waters you havent navigated through yourself. My classmate is from booklyn and he got a job teaching at Paulding County Ga...The income he came from and the kids teach come from are virtually the same. But the reasons are different and my boy cant relate to working a farm or ditching school to work for the family. He dosent know how to tell a kid that they need to go to school, when the kid (and his father) is telling him, "i couldnt go to school because i had to work the farm"  He is used to seeing kids ditch to sell drugs in Brooklyn.

Im saying i can tell a black kid how to be a black man (which is what he is going to be) because i did it. It would be hard for me to know how to help a kid from Paulding county or Newton county ga, I never shared their reality.

We do agree on the last point. Parental Guidance is the key. But it seems like we have to try and override the examples set by the kids parents and tell them to take a different path. You can imagine how tough that is. Telling a kid that "your father is raising you wrong".

I got a kid (pushing back tears now) Whos father was/is addicted to crack, mother was/is a prostitute and he lived with his flakey cousin who just provided a roof over his head and thats all. He dosent really provide any guidance. But the kid (i have coached for 3 years now) understands the importance of education and is slated to go to Harvard in 2010 because he did so well in school.He has gotten all A's from the 9th grade until now.  When you see him staying after school real real late because he dosent want to go home that shit is tough.  He didnt have money for pants shirt and a tie for game days so we went to Ross and i got him some stuff. ( i just acted like i was going there anyway and i had found some extra money so he wouldnt take it as a charity case). So thats who i really fell i can help because i know and i have seen his kind of struggle. And i think thats what they were talking about. We can help people who share the same experiences.

[Option D]

The biggest enemy to blacks are liberal whites?  Why not just liberals?  You know how many black liberal female adminstrators there are in the LA public school system?  You're just like big_mal blaiming all the problems and plight of blacks on white people.  In this day and age that's bullshit......50 years ago you might have had an argument due to racism but now?  Hell no! Maybe when blacks realize there are more important things to life than "lambos" and "football" they'll start to excel in other things besides pro sports.  I grew up with a mom that worked full time 10 hour days and still managed to come home dead tired, put food on the table, and make sure my homework was done.  This whole sob story of the overworked black mom is pathetic.  Where are the black dads?  My dad was busting his ass right along side my mom.  I was middle class!  And the only reason my family stayed middle class is because my parents worked their asses off and handled their responsiblities i.e. THEIR FUCKING KIDS they brought into this world.  My father was a first generation immigrant.  He had his fair share of stereotyping, racism, and polak jokes.  He spoke 5 languages, most black kids can't even speak one correctly.  And it's all  because white women are teaching black kids in the public school??? LOL.   

You have never read any of my posts if you believe that. I have gone on record countless times saying that blacks (we) need to be treated as equals on everything and we will be forced to come to the table. We need to take responsibility. I have said that many times.

[Soul Crusher]

Good post.

Did you see my post the other day with KRS v. Shante?

[Option D]

Good post.

Did you see my post the other day with KRS v. Shante?

Hell yeah. KRS is the dopest. I got this mexican kid who loves BDP. Its hilarious. He is 16...

[Soul Crusher]

Hell yeah. KRS is the dopest. I got this mexican kid who loves BDP. Its hilarious. He is 16...

Nice.

I just got his 2007 album with Marley Marl.  The beats are slammin.     

[SAMSON123]

With a black guy as President and now this, the blacks are going to soon be running out of things to blame for their failure to contribute anything substantial to modern society.

 (CNN) -- For the first time since the war on drugs became a national law enforcement obsession in the mid-1980s, the number of African-Americans in state prisons for drug offenses has declined, a criminal justice reform organization said.
The number of whites in state prison for drugs rose 42.6 percent since 1999, while blacks dropped 21.6 percent.

The number of whites in state prison for drugs rose 42.6 percent since 1999, while blacks dropped 21.6 percent.

A study released Tuesday by the Sentencing Project found a 21.6 percent drop in the number of blacks incarcerated for drug offenses, a decline of 31,000 people, from 1999 to 2005.

The corresponding number of whites in state prisons for drug offenses rose 42.6 percent, or by more than 21,000 people, while the number of Hispanics was virtually unchanged, according to "The Changing Racial Dynamics of the War on Drugs."

The study, authored by Executive Director Marc Mauer, found that the differences between black and white imprisonments for drug crimes are partly because of how police target suspects and court sentencing guidelines, which vary by state.

Also, there has been a decrease in the use of crack cocaine in predominantly minority urban neighborhoods and an increase in methamphetamine abuse in many primarily white rural areas, Mauer said Wednesday.

The Sentencing Project, based in Washington, said it seeks to overhaul unfair, ineffective criminal justice policies and promote alternatives to incarceration. The group opposes stiff penalties for nonviolent drug crimes.

Mauer said that 2005 offers the most recent breakdown of racial data but there was no analysis by drug type. Nevertheless, "we know in broad terms" that crack and powder cocaine and methamphetamine have been key targets of law enforcement, he said. Crack use also is declining, he said.

"We know that blacks have been disproportionately targeted for crack offenses ... conversely for whites," Mauer said Wednesday. A growing proportion of people have been imprisoned for abusing methamphetamine, he said, most of whom are white.

In addition, the study suggests that much of the difference between blacks and whites has been because of "police targeting of open-air drug markets" or street corners.

"It's conceivable that police are shifting their focus. There has been criticism of police for over policing black communities, especially when it comes to drug offenses," Mauer said.

He said 80 percent of crack offenders are black, while the rest are white or Hispanic.

"As crack use and sales have declined, or moved indoors in some cases, law enforcement activity may have been reduced correspondingly," the findings show.

"We don't know the exact extent of drug selling, what the levels are," but there is evidence they may be doing more indoors now, using cell phones more to make drug transactions so less obvious to police," Mauer said. He said police have reported this trend.

In addition, judges mete out harsher sentences for crack cocaine, most often used by minorities, and powder cocaine, usually favored by whites, although the chemical makeup of the two is the same, Mauer said.

According to the study, "the white increase may be related in part to more aggressive enforcement of methamphetamine laws. While methamphetamine is only used at significant levels in a relative handful of states, data from states such as Iowa and Minnesota show a substantial influx of these cases during this time period."

While the number of people in state prisons for drug offenses rose by less than 1 percent overall during the study period, the increase in federal prisons was more than 32 percent.

"The federal system has rigid, mandatory sentencing polices, especially for crack cocaine," Mauer said. "Also in the federal system, money is not an object there."

The mandatory federal sentence for selling about 500 grams or one pound of powered cocaine is five years, Mauer said. Someone convicted of selling about five grams of crack, or about two sugar packets, gets the same five-year term, he said.

Some in Congress are seeking to equalize penalties for crack and powder cocaine, he added.

The study was based on U.S. data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the FBI and the Department of Health and Human Services.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/15/blacks.whites.prisons.drugs/index.html

YOU'RE AN IMBICILE BERZERK...but I love it...WHY??? Becasue this whole article is about WHITES being the PROBLEM in america. It essentially informs you and all whites that you are the faace of drugs, inmates, crime, violence etc etc... I LOVE IT...LOVE IT LOVE IT. You in all of your racist ignorance just exposed your illiteracy, race baiting and ignorance. read the article again and WEEP!!!

BTW...whites never run out of excuses to blame their failures on...

[Fury]

YOUR AN IMBICILE BERZERK...but I love it...WHY??? Becasue this whole article is about WHITES being the PROBLEM in america. It essentially informs you and all whites that you are the faace of drugs, inmates, crime, violence etc etc... I LOVE IT...LOVE IT LOVE IT. You in all of your racist ignorance just exposed your illiteracy, race baiting and ignorance. read the article again and WEEP!!!

It's "imbecile" you fucking degenerate. You're so fucking retarded it's pathetic. Up until the last few years, more blacks have been in jail than whites on drug charges. You know what, dipshit? There are only 30 million or so blacks in America. So yes, it's a shocker that more whites are in jail now. 

Shows that blacks may be starting to turn things around as their numbers have decreased. Black man in the Presidency. Decreased numbers in jail. You and your people are running out of excuses to blame your failures on. It's so easy to own you that it's funny. Weep darkie, weep.

[SAMSON123]

It's "imbecile" you fucking degenerate. You're so fucking retarded it's pathetic. Up until the last few years, more blacks have been in jail than whites on drug charges. You know what, dipshit? There are only 30 million or so blacks in America. So yes, it's a shocker that more whites are in jail now. 

Shows that blacks may be starting to turn things around as their numbers have decreased. Black man in the Presidency. Decreased numbers in jail. You and your people are running out of excuses to blame your failures on. It's so easy to own you that it's funny. Weep darkie, weep.

LINK PLEASE???

[MuscleMcMannus]

No offense taken at all. This is America and we all have different experiences that contribute to our different outlooks on life.

But the class room is not the platform i want to use,  

My point exactly.  Hence nothing will change.  If black NFL players who graduated college yet can barely put two sentences together without sounding like they still live in South Central is your idea of black progress I feel truly sorry for these kids you are mentoring.  Black youth need role models that will USE THE CLASSROOM and academics/intellectual learning AS A PLATFORM!  Not sports, not money, not bling bling, not nice shit/clothes/rides etc.  Black culture is a very hard force to deal with.........but if you don't change it.....no amount of "coolness" or role modeling will do anything to lift black people from their plight.  If you're gonna coach kids atleast teach them about nutrition and how to eat right! 

[Cap]

Exactly... It's a big part of why I'm glad Obama is President to be honest.

No black man anywhere can tell me that he's oppressed... If he's not a dumb ass he can be the motherfucking leader of the free fucking world now.

No bitching from the black community ever again.

QFT

[MuscleMcMannus]

Hell yeah. KRS is the dopest. I got this mexican kid who loves BDP. Its hilarious. He is 16...

I just have a question for you big_mal.  And again I like you and think you are a solid individual.  But do you talk that way around the kids you are mentoring?  I know this is getbig and we are all here to shoot the shit and have fun.......but it seems "ebonics" is really ingrained into your vocabulary.  Why do black people feel it is somehow a right of passage to talk ebonics?  Again this goes back to this whole "it's a black thing bullshit".  

It's just like country rednecks who talk their shit version of English.  I have a family member that does it.  And I'll call his ass out on it everytime! 

[MuscleMcMannus]

No,its because liberals think they owe the black everything.So they bus them into schools they are ill prepared for all in the name of "helping them".They give them welfare and reward black families if the father leaves by giving the mother more government help.They excuse everything they do by blaming whites.

You miss my whole point.Blacks can do everything whites can if the fucking filthy government and libs would get the hell out of the way and stop trying to manage them.Stop trying to "help" them,they are perfectly capeable of making it without the white mans help.Let them controll their own lives without whites thinking they have to push them along like childeren.

Lastly,the reason blacks love football and lambos is because the filthy Jewish media pushes that crap on them every single day.MTV and the like glorify the ultimate stupidity and blacks see this crap and think "thats the life".Ever see MTV just show a hard working black family living a normal life?Nope,its always fucking cribs or some other stupid ass show.You cant strive for what you cant see.

LOL You can blame government, liberals, welfare, and whoever the hell else you want to.  But at the end of the day it's all about personal drive and determination.  The longer people like you make excuses for blacks the longer they will endure their current plight.  Blacks need to wake up because hispanics are breathing down their necks, taking their welfare and jobs.  It's not a black white issues anymore as much as it is a hispanic/black issue nowadays.  But you're doing a good job promoting the age old stereotype that white people keep blacks down. 

[24KT]

No offense taken at all. This is America and we all have different experiences that contribute to our different outlooks on life.

Im gonna go issue by issue.
I coach football right now because in the mornings im at school so i cant teach a regular subject. But the class room is not the platform i want to use,  And found that if i take the time after school (when they dont feel like learning math no more) I coach them in football but everyday i slip life lessons in there. Im from the streets, born and raised in South Central LA. I know who inner city boys listen to. I dont want to look like another dude telling them what not to do. I serve as living proof. Like when I pull up in my nice car (provided by my sister) nice clothes , always take care of my boys...the boys say "man i wanna be like coach pigford" then thats when they are open to talk about what they got going on and how to help their future. So being cool (i know it sounds dumb) goes far with a city kid.

As far as Rural kids and what not. I know they have it tough. But the struggles are different and its hard to try to lead a kid through waters you havent navigated through yourself. My classmate is from booklyn and he got a job teaching at Paulding County Ga...The income he came from and the kids teach come from are virtually the same. But the reasons are different and my boy cant relate to working a farm or ditching school to work for the family. He dosent know how to tell a kid that they need to go to school, when the kid (and his father) is telling him, "i couldnt go to school because i had to work the farm"  He is used to seeing kids ditch to sell drugs in Brooklyn.

Im saying i can tell a black kid how to be a black man (which is what he is going to be) because i did it. It would be hard for me to know how to help a kid from Paulding county or Newton county ga, I never shared their reality.

We do agree on the last point. Parental Guidance is the key. But it seems like we have to try and override the examples set by the kids parents and tell them to take a different path. You can imagine how tough that is. Telling a kid that "your father is raising you wrong".

I got a kid (pushing back tears now) Whos father was/is addicted to crack, mother was/is a prostitute and he lived with his flakey cousin who just provided a roof over his head and thats all. He dosent really provide any guidance. But the kid (i have coached for 3 years now) understands the importance of education and is slated to go to Harvard in 2010 because he did so well in school.He has gotten all A's from the 9th grade until now.  When you see him staying after school real real late because he dosent want to go home that shit is tough.  He didnt have money for pants shirt and a tie for game days so we went to Ross and i got him some stuff. ( i just acted like i was going there anyway and i had found some extra money so he wouldnt take it as a charity case). So thats who i really fell i can help because i know and i have seen his kind of struggle. And i think thats what they were talking about. We can help people who share the same experiences.

Big Mal,

I understand the point you're trying to make, ...but I think it needs to be emphasized that "culture" plays a larger role than "colour".

My mother was a teacher, and because of her colour, she was transfered from her position teaching highly motivated kids in an upper middle class predominately Jewish neighbourhood, to teaching kids in the Jane / Finch corridor.  They felt, she was black, so the black kids would identify with her. Nope. It didn't go down that way...  Her specialty was teaching children with learning disabilities, and Jane/Finch had it's share, but her specialty was not behavioural learning disabilities. She felt completely unqualified to teach these kids, and forcing her to make the attempt was a waste of her talents, unfair to the students, ...but more importantly a risk to her health, both physically & mentally. After 2 months of hell, she took the rest of the year off, and told the board to find her another school or she was quitting, and taking her qualifications to the Catholic school board. It's culture, not colour. Granted, in the USA, culture often falls along colour lines, ...but when it comes right down to it, ...it's culture.

And while I agree being able to understand the kid's life is important, the teacher doesn't have to have come from the same place to inspire the child.

[BM OUT]

LOL You can blame government, liberals, welfare, and whoever the hell else you want to.  But at the end of the day it's all about personal drive and determination.  The longer people like you make excuses for blacks the longer they will endure their current plight.  Blacks need to wake up because hispanics are breathing down their necks, taking their welfare and jobs.  It's not a black white issues anymore as much as it is a hispanic/black issue nowadays.  But you're doing a good job promoting the age old stereotype that white people keep blacks down. 

Wow,you read that post and came to the conclusion that I blame whites for keeping blacks down?Why should blacks work or strive to do well,they have uncle sam paying for anything they want.Food stamps,welfare,free housing,health care.If someone gave you everything all the time,whats the incentive in working.

[Option D]

Big Mal,

I understand the point you're trying to make, ...but I think it needs to be emphasized that "culture" plays a larger role than "colour".

My mother was a teacher, and because of her colour, she was transfered from her position teaching highly motivated kids in an upper middle class predominately Jewish neighbourhood, to teaching kids in the Jane / Finch corridor.  They felt, she was black, so the black kids would identify with her. Nope. It didn't go down that way...  Her specialty was teaching children with learning disabilities, and Jane/Finch had it's share, but her specialty was not behavioural learning disabilities. She felt completely unqualified to teach these kids, and forcing her to make the attempt was a waste of her talents, unfair to the students, ...but more importantly a risk to her health, both physically & mentally. After 2 months of hell, she took the rest of the year off, and told the board to find her another school or she was quitting, and taking her qualifications to the Catholic school board. It's culture, not colour. Granted, in the USA, culture often falls along colour lines, ...but when it comes right down to it, ...it's culture.

And while I agree being able to understand the kid's life is important, the teacher doesn't have to have come from the same place to inspire the child.

Oh yeah my bad jag..Thats what i ment to differentiate. I can relate more with a white kid from south central than i can a black kid from rural GA...It is a cultural thing


And to muscle man..

I cant really care what you think is the right and wrong way to get through to the kids i coach. Only because I see what works for the kids. To say I should get through to the kids via this vessel or that vessel (math and what not) is not what i need to be doing. Every kid isnt gonna work for NASA but they can still be productive. Im trying to 1 keep them in school, and keep them out of gangs/drugs. Thats a start for me. They listen to me very carefully because of where im from. I talk to them and not at them. They are more inclined to open up to someone when the person kneels down to their level. They get lectured from teachers and principals all day. So its refreshing for them to see someone who can relate with them, looks like them talks like them (to an extent) and understands their questions, and im old enough for them to respect my expeirience.

 Like ill take yesterday for example

We were Car Pooling to a passing leauge (7 on 7) scrimmage with another school. And one of the kids said "cuzz" and i know thats what crips call each other. So i asked him (and the other kids who were in the car) "who in here is involved in gangs" and one of the kids said he used to and the other kid said he was still sort of active. Well i asked them what they wanted to do when they got older and both said "be the ceo/owner of their own business. And then i went on to ask them "well how many successful business men start their bio with "well yeah i started out in while a member of the crips"...they laughed and said none. Then i asked them "and how many people in jail start off with that same bio" and they both said "a lot" ...And we went on...and they contributed more to the conversation than i did..i just sat and listened...Now had that been an older cat... they would have gave them the same song and dance and the kid would ave just sat nodding their head letting the guy talk....I dont talk at my kids (football team) i talk with them. Huge Difference. You have to meet them where they are.

[shootfighter1]

Good point Jag, I agree, its more of a cultural connection.

Mal, your a good dude man.  Thats a great story.

[Option D]

Good point Jag, I agree, its more of a cultural connection.

Mal, your a good dude man.  Thats a great story.

Thanks shoot. Youre a cool dude too.

[Soul Crusher]

Thanks shoot. Youre a cool dude too.

What about Me??? 

Ha Ha . . . Mal - those kids are lucky they got a guy like you helping out.