i dont question jrod's natural status, nor am i questioning mesmorphs. both of them could be on drugs, but i dont believe they are b/c i know that their physiques are attainable naturally. they both look good. jeff is on a whole other level though.
personally GH15, i think you are DELUSIONAL about who you are, and what you think you know. i can tell by your posts that you know close to nothign about bbing, and its sad that you think you are some expert b/c you have been given some getbig approval in the past and it has built your ego up into thinking you are the board guru on things of this nature.
mesomorph, im not trying to be critical. it just seems hard for me to believe, as a fellow natural that you have 19 1/2 in arms 
jeff has one of the best natural physiques around in my opinion, and he doesnt even have those measurements.
if you truly do have 19 1/2 arms at your weight and height then congrats dude, b/c that is phenomenal. but comparing your pics to jrod, who is only an inch shorter and weighs about the same and is more ripped....i find 19 1/2 a hard number to swallow.
can you comment on this?
mr simply 170 pounds huge,,
dont use my words of critiq twards you inorder to say bunch of crap,,i never said i was guru ,,i am god! ,, why? because i compete as a professional and at the same time lead one of the biggest supplying of hormones around the world,,sucessfully many times with doc presicriptions delivered to the ones needed in america and ofcourse all over the world since in most places hormones are none controlled,,
thats that ,,
all of what gh15 says is from years upon years of TRUE NATURAL WORK and then homonized work ,,,HANDS ON ,,this is not on only theoritical it is hands on on my self ,,things who got me to be a professional ,,and also things who worked for other bodybuilders i worked and was associated with ,,also during the years i trained many natural and hormonized competitor and as i said i am god for i can smell you and take a 5 second look at you and know exactly what you do how you do it and when you do it ,,
i am feared and highly respected among the ones who actually KNOW BODYBUILDING ,,both amatuer and professional ,,for i am the water that the flower needs inorder to grow,,
yes i am narcsisitic ,,yes i am very arrogant,,but despite all that i ALWAYS SAY THE TRUTH IN REGARDS TO BODYBUILDING ,,BOTH NATURAL AND HORMONZIED,,YOU ,,MESOMORF AND OFCOURSE JEFF ARE NOT NATURAL ,,YOU ARE THE CLOSEST TO NATURAL OUT OF THEM BUT ALSO NOT NATURAL
jedd rodrigex like slip lacour build his name from via so called natural competition ,,,but he is not natrual and will never be one ,,
just the use of duretics on jeff which is noticable to any one who understand the GAME called bodybuilding shoud be proof enough to you that he is a liar ,,just another liar,,
you need to oread van b from time to time,,,disgusted,,the coach ,,,you need to actually listen what they tell you because it will being the truth from within you and will set you free,,
remember the following sentence,,
THIE WORST OF THE WORST ARE THE LIARS WHO DO IT WITH CLEAN CONTIOUS FOR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WILL FALL FIRST AND DIE ALONE,,
remember this sentence because i promise you that this will be the end of each and every one of the liars i mentioned here,,it wont be from bodybuilding,,it wont be from the use of hormones,,but it will be from same type of behavior in the long endevour called life,,
now this sentence may mean shit to you ,,but the older you wil get the more you will remember it ,,especially at the final fall ,,it always happens ,,always
gh15 approved
