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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #225 on: April 27, 2009, 07:59:38 AM »
I only read the doctrines of obscure American federalists from the early 19th century.
LOL. You forgot to attach the 2 page cut and paste. 

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #226 on: April 27, 2009, 08:02:24 AM »
...been working all day. Here is the last paragraph I just wrote. very intellectual: :-X :-\

Hina is the ancestor of na. It was primarily used as a complementizer. In Classical Greek mood was a function of verbal morphology, as morphology was confounded, e.g. the homophony of the aorist subjunctive and the future indicative, levelling ensued and the various affixes lost their meaning. Hina itself underwent a stress shift, being reduced to na and over time its application widened, so that for example there are cases of it occurring in matrix clauses in the post classical period, which foreshadows it status as a stand alone particle without an accompanying complementizer. Interesting as this may be, the crucial question remains as to whether an upwards reanalysis took place in the case of this particle. Hina introduced embedded clauses which clearly points to it being in the C system. Na is also found within the C system. If this is in fact the case, how then can the changes that took place be seen as upwards reanalysis? If mood in Classical Greek was realised primarily by means of verbal inflection/agreement and with levelling there was a loss of that agreement, then one can safely argue that mood was realised in the T domain.  If over time this function was taken over by na, then it stands to reason that mood was reanalysed as being in the C domain.  Mood features become lexicalised within a higher domain, namely C and the subjunctive mood is thenceforth realised in a free standing morpheme. In this way it can be argued that there was reanalysis of mood from T to C; upwards reanalysis.

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #227 on: April 27, 2009, 08:12:46 AM »
...been working all day. Here is the last paragraph I just wrote. very intellectual: :-X :-\

Hina is the ancestor of na. It was primarily used as a complementizer. In Classical Greek mood was a function of verbal morphology, as morphology was confounded, e.g. the homophony of the aorist subjunctive and the future indicative, levelling ensued and the various affixes lost their meaning. Hina itself underwent a stress shift, being reduced to na and over time its application widened, so that for example there are cases of it occurring in matrix clauses in the post classical period, which foreshadows it status as a stand alone particle without an accompanying complementizer. Interesting as this may be, the crucial question remains as to whether an upwards reanalysis took place in the case of this particle. Hina introduced embedded clauses which clearly points to it being in the C system. Na is also found within the C system. If this is in fact the case, how then can the changes that took place be seen as upwards reanalysis? If mood in Classical Greek was realised primarily by means of verbal inflection/agreement and with levelling there was a loss of that agreement, then one can safely argue that mood was realised in the T domain.  If over time this function was taken over by na, then it stands to reason that mood was reanalysed as being in the C domain.  Mood features become lexicalised within a higher domain, namely C and the subjunctive mood is thenceforth realised in a free standing morpheme. In this way it can be argued that there was reanalysis of mood from T to C; upwards reanalysis.



Wow! I'm sure it took some effort to compose that, but I feel sorry for whoever has to try learn and possibly, regurgitate that later in some kind of situation like an exam. Is that linguistics?

I personally think that the intellectual content in say, a body of text, is more about the overall message / information contained in it, rather than the way it is conveyed, especially if said way is purposely made difficult to read and comprehend due to it's challenging sentence construction and use of complicated words and phrases where simpler ones would suffice.

Which is why I think the witty Peter McGough is a better writer than the less gifted but way more pretentious Julian Schmidt in FLEX.

Did I mention good effort on your part? :P ;D

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #228 on: April 27, 2009, 08:18:54 AM »
LOL. You forgot to attach the 2 page cut and paste. 

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #229 on: April 27, 2009, 08:20:50 AM »
...been working all day. Here is the last paragraph I just wrote. very intellectual: :-X :-\

Hina is the ancestor of na. It was primarily used as a complementizer. In Classical Greek mood was a function of verbal morphology, as morphology was confounded, e.g. the homophony of the aorist subjunctive and the future indicative, levelling ensued and the various affixes lost their meaning. Hina itself underwent a stress shift, being reduced to na and over time its application widened, so that for example there are cases of it occurring in matrix clauses in the post classical period, which foreshadows it status as a stand alone particle without an accompanying complementizer. Interesting as this may be, the crucial question remains as to whether an upwards reanalysis took place in the case of this particle. Hina introduced embedded clauses which clearly points to it being in the C system. Na is also found within the C system. If this is in fact the case, how then can the changes that took place be seen as upwards reanalysis? If mood in Classical Greek was realised primarily by means of verbal inflection/agreement and with levelling there was a loss of that agreement, then one can safely argue that mood was realised in the T domain.  If over time this function was taken over by na, then it stands to reason that mood was reanalysed as being in the C domain.  Mood features become lexicalised within a higher domain, namely C and the subjunctive mood is thenceforth realised in a free standing morpheme. In this way it can be argued that there was reanalysis of mood from T to C; upwards reanalysis.



Reminds me of when I was reading Wittgenstein. Fuck I had some courage back then. Also, I could spend hours reading almost anything from Heidegger, Levinas, etc.....I don't even bother with the TV prorams anymore, gives me a headache (I've been trying to read Musil for the past two months and although it's great I still at page 400 and there's 1 200 more to go).

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #230 on: April 27, 2009, 08:25:15 AM »


That's not Adonis' Darwin and Tesla in the front

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #231 on: April 27, 2009, 08:25:26 AM »
Wow! I'm sure it took some effort to compose that, but I feel sorry for whoever has to try learn and possibly, regurgitate that later in some kind of situation like an exam. Is that linguistics?

I personally think that the intellectual content in say, a body of text, is more about the overall message / information contained in it, rather than the way it is conveyed, especially if said way is purposely made difficult to read and comprehend due to it's challenging sentence construction and use of complicated words and phrases where simpler ones would suffice.

Which is why I think the witty Peter McGough is a lot better than the less gifted but way more pretentious Julian Schmidt in FLEX.

Did I mention good effort on your part? :P ;D

Yeah, unfortunately it is linguistics. I have a bunch of papers due in a few days because I was so lazy the last few weeks and didn't do anything. This one is about Minimalist approaches to diachronic syntax and yes it is as boring as it sounds. :-X
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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #232 on: April 27, 2009, 08:30:27 AM »
That's not Adonis' Darwin and Tesla in the front

Indeed not sir, but great-great-great Granddaddy Elijah Falcon stands at centre with a majestic beard.

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #233 on: April 27, 2009, 08:32:22 AM »
yes in fact dr. chimps may be a real doctor

Yeah, in Kenya maybe.
Not in the West where you have to go to medical school for an extended period of learning.
Followed, swiftly, buy head wrenching exams.

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #234 on: April 27, 2009, 08:35:30 AM »
What's it like having one's head wrenched?

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #235 on: April 27, 2009, 08:36:19 AM »
Yeah, in Kenya maybe.
Not in the West where you have to go to medical school for an extended period of learning.
Followed, swiftly, buy head wrenching exams.

Nah, can't see it.
He drops the Ball as much as 'Fat Panda'

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the fucking man/simian!
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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #236 on: April 27, 2009, 08:36:29 AM »
Yeah, in Kenya maybe.
Not in the West where you have to go to medical school for an extended period of learning.
Followed, swiftly, buy head wrenching exams.

Nah, can't see it.
He drops the Ball as much as 'Fat Panda'

and when the ball is dropped

you are there
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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #237 on: April 27, 2009, 08:41:12 AM »
What's it like having one's head wrenched?

Read Deicide's "last paragraph" posted above and you'll get a good idea ;D

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #238 on: April 27, 2009, 09:12:22 AM »
Wow! I'm sure it took some effort to compose that, but I feel sorry for whoever has to try learn and possibly, regurgitate that later in some kind of situation like an exam. Is that linguistics?

I personally think that the intellectual content in say, a body of text, is more about the overall message / information contained in it, rather than the way it is conveyed, especially if said way is purposely made difficult to read and comprehend due to it's challenging sentence construction and use of complicated words and phrases where simpler ones would suffice.

Which is why I think the witty Peter McGough is a better writer than the less gifted but way more pretentious Julian Schmidt in FLEX.

Did I mention good effort on your part? :P ;D

i swear if i ever meet julian schmidt i'm going to punch him right in his pretentious head. the crap that guy put on the page can only come from someone who hasn't had his ass kicked in a long time. seriously, who writes like that and expects the reader to enjoy trudging through  it other than a pretentious prick.

oh, and peter mcgough is not FAT   ;D

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #239 on: April 27, 2009, 09:26:51 AM »
Reminds me of when I was reading Wittgenstein. Fuck I had some courage back then. Also, I could spend hours reading almost anything from Heidegger, Levinas, etc.....I don't even bother with the TV prorams anymore, gives me a headache (I've been trying to read Musil for the past two months and although it's great I still at page 400 and there's 1 200 more to go).
The Man Without Qualities!? In my younger days, when I had the energy to take running starts at the heavyweights, I got to about page 600 before I ceded defeat. It was Musil's unfinished masterpiece; it was just another of my unfinished books. Still sits on my bookshelf, but I have no interest in giving it another go.

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2009, 09:29:17 AM »
...been working all day. Here is the last paragraph I just wrote. very intellectual: :-X :-\

Hina is the ancestor of na. It was primarily used as a complementizer. In Classical Greek mood was a function of verbal morphology, as morphology was confounded, e.g. the homophony of the aorist subjunctive and the future indicative, levelling ensued and the various affixes lost their meaning. Hina itself underwent a stress shift, being reduced to na and over time its application widened, so that for example there are cases of it occurring in matrix clauses in the post classical period, which foreshadows it status as a stand alone particle without an accompanying complementizer. Interesting as this may be, the crucial question remains as to whether an upwards reanalysis took place in the case of this particle. Hina introduced embedded clauses which clearly points to it being in the C system. Na is also found within the C system. If this is in fact the case, how then can the changes that took place be seen as upwards reanalysis? If mood in Classical Greek was realised primarily by means of verbal inflection/agreement and with levelling there was a loss of that agreement, then one can safely argue that mood was realised in the T domain.  If over time this function was taken over by na, then it stands to reason that mood was reanalysed as being in the C domain.  Mood features become lexicalised within a higher domain, namely C and the subjunctive mood is thenceforth realised in a free standing morpheme. In this way it can be argued that there was reanalysis of mood from T to C; upwards reanalysis.
Holy smokes, D. That is some stolid stuff. I get it has do with language, but that's about all I get. Maybe, I'll print that out and keep it by my bed in case I can't sleep.  ;D   

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2009, 09:29:37 AM »
i swear if i ever meet julian schmidt i'm going to punch him right in his pretentious head. the crap that guy put on the page can only come from someone who hasn't had his ass kicked in a long time. seriously, who writes like that and expects the reader to enjoy trudging through  it other than a pretentious prick.

Agree. I discussed this with Joe Roark here in Getbig a couple of years ago and he swore JS talks that way too - apparently, he does it all (talk and write) without so much as using a Thesaurus. Somehow, I don't see it happening, just like I don't see the point in using a complicated word for the sake of using one when a simpler substitute works just as good.

And he does it not once in a while, but every time! It's not like we are the Dead poet's society or anything, LOL!

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2009, 09:31:24 AM »
Holy smokes, D. That is some stolid stuff. I get it has do with language, but that's about all I get. Maybe, I'll print that out and keep it by my bed in case I can't sleep.  ;D   

Typical 'fachjargon', a lot of hot air...my break has been a bit too long now. Have to keep going.... :-X
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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2009, 09:34:15 AM »
The Man Without Qualities!? In my younger days, when I had the energy to take running starts at the heavyweights, I got to about page 600 before I ceded defeat. It was Musil's unfinished masterpiece; it was just another of my unfinished books. Still sits on my bookshelf, but I have no interest in giving it another go.

Exactly. I'm actually lovin' it but I really wonder if I'll ever get to the end.

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2009, 09:35:18 AM »
Typical 'fachjargon', a lot of hot air...my break has been a bit too long now. Have to keep going.... :-X
Keep the head down, D. I remember I used to try to kill the tedium by working on a laptop, books arrayed around me, but with the tv showing movie after movie in front to me. It kinda kept that front brain occupied, allowing me to slog away.  :)

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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2009, 09:38:24 AM »
What's it like having one's head wrenched?

Stick your head in a vice (real tight, mind) then try & do some break dancing.
be sure to tell us how it felt when you are done, yeah ??
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« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2009, 09:40:52 AM »
Typical 'fachjargon', a lot of hot air...my break has been a bit too long now. Have to keep going.... :-X

Do you get any enjoyment out of the whole thing? I ask because I know you've talked about issues like Insomnia, depression and even suicide contemplation here. Not saying that it's the root cause of all your inner torments or anything, but it seems like torture to have to dabble in stuff like that - it's too heavy and tedious, without any promise of adequate compensation. If you are on a low to begin with, I'd think that's one of the last things that's going to cheer you up or sweeten your day.

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« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2009, 09:42:34 AM »
Keep the head down, D. I remember I used to try to kill the tedium by working on a laptop, books arrayed around me, but with the tv showing movie after movie in front to me. It kinda kept that front brain occupied, allowing me to slog away.  :)

Yeah, I am doing off and on surfing/getbig writing; working on another paper now. Can't wait until I start my dissertation... :-X :-X :-X Just end term assignments now...
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Re: Who Is The Most Intellectual Getbigger?
« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2009, 09:44:23 AM »
just like I don't see the point in using a complicated word for the sake of using one when a simpler substitute works just as good.

With all due respect, this technique (if we can call it that) keeps the English language alive.
It is dying you know, oh yes.
These Yank's are fucking murdering it.
Multi-syllabic words are good for your synaptic connections, & if you can use them in the right context, well fuck me, if you shouldn't be working for 'NASA'
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« Reply #249 on: April 27, 2009, 09:50:26 AM »
Do you get any enjoyment out of the whole thing? I ask because I know you've talked about issues like Insomnia, depression and even suicide contemplation here. Not saying that it's the root cause of all your inner torments or anything, but it seems like torture to have to dabble in stuff like that - it's too heavy and tedious, without any promise of adequate compensation. If you are on a low to begin with, I'd think that's one of the last things that's going to cheer you up or sweeten your day.

Mate, you have a point. I can't think about it now but when I started my MA I thought I really wanted to do this but as the months have gone by interest has waned and yes there is no reward for it. In some way I feel like I wasting my time but I still have an 80 pg dissertation to write so I am not going to think about it much. It has kind of become a quest to 'get the masters'. I do have another plan though, long term...which involves further education. Having said that I can't remember (minus the current panic and stress to finish my papers) the last time I was so 'content'. Life is quite ok, nothing spectacular but downright decent. A lot of my past shit came from working that shitty job for over 2 years in Korea. Lessons to be learnt.

BTW, I think all of getbig should know that a few weeks ago I kicked sleep meds...permanently, haven't had any and whilst sleep isn't that much better, I have more energy. Those meds were making me feel worse, not better.
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