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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2009, 06:47:32 PM »
no one could criticize nasser's back size, width, or, thickness..

Please see above. Yes, one could.

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2009, 07:17:03 PM »
another thread comparing nasser to Mr. Levrone

nasser fans are still feeling the LevrOWNINGS to this day 8)

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2009, 09:25:27 PM »
Levrone was a better bodybuilder, period

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2009, 09:27:00 PM »
another thread comparing nasser to Mr. Levrone

nasser fans are still feeling the LevrOWNINGS to this day 8)

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Earl how are there still new vids and pictures of Dorian coming out and not of Levrone?

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2009, 09:29:54 PM »
Earl how are there still new vids and pictures of Dorian coming out and not of Levrone?

Maybe because homosexual cravings for Dorian are stronger?

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2009, 12:29:26 AM »
another thread comparing nasser to Mr. Levrone

nasser fans are still feeling the LevrOWNINGS to this day 8)

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when both were competing close to their best nasser was always kicking levrone's ass.. the only area levrone could be compared with nasser in was his great shoulders and arms..

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2009, 12:33:20 AM »
Levrone was a better bodybuilder, period

i agree that levrone's career was more successful in general but when both were at their best Nasser was clearly better.. much better upper legs and calves, wider and thicker torso which made him more proportioned than levrone who needed a bigger torso to match his great arms and shoulders..



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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2009, 12:46:25 AM »
no comment  8)

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2009, 11:03:02 AM »
when both were competing close to their best nasser was always kicking levrone's ass.. the only area levrone could be compared with nasser in was his great shoulders and arms..

that's debateable

a career is measured over an extended period of time, not just 3 years

for that reason Mr. Levrone is superior

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2009, 11:04:27 AM »
Earl how are there still new vids and pictures of Dorian coming out and not of Levrone?

i don't think there is that much of a difference

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2009, 12:14:33 PM »
that's debateable

a career is measured over an extended period of time, not just 3 years

for that reason Mr. Levrone is superior

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i believe that both of us are saying the same thing.. that kevin's career was better but when both were at their best nasser's body was better..

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2009, 12:57:59 PM »
i believe that both of us are saying the same thing.. that kevin's career was better but when both were at their best nasser's body was better..

Except for his back and the oily delts/biceps. Also, while Nasser was big, Kevin did have much better muscle shape and also never sported a gut like Nasser.

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2009, 01:15:35 PM »
Except for his back and the oily delts/biceps. Also, while Nasser was big, Kevin did have much better muscle shape and also never sported a gut like Nasser.

Despite what you feel his weaknesses were, Nasser did beat Levrone numerous times during his prime from 96 to 99 AC.  True Kevin was placing in the top 6 for more years than Nasser, but at their respective bests Nasser consistently beat him in most shows. 

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2009, 01:32:43 PM »
consistently

Consistent over a remarkably short time period? I think that is what they call a stretch.

Mr. Olympia

1992: Levrone 2nd
1993: Levrone 6th
1994: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 7th
1995: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 3rd
1996: Levrone 3rd, Nasser disqualified
1997: Nasser 2nd, Levrone 4th
1998: Nasser 3rd, Levrone 4th
1999: Levrone 4th, Nasser 6th
2000: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 5th
2001: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 9th
2002: Levrond 2nd, Nasser 15th
2003: Levrone 6th

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2009, 01:36:59 PM »
Despite what you feel his weaknesses were, Nasser did beat Levrone numerous times during his prime from 96 to 99 AC.  True Kevin was placing in the top 6 for more years than Nasser, but at their respective bests Nasser consistently beat him in most shows. 


translation:

Levrone = better bodybuilding genetics

Nasser = product of drug use that was bound to burn out
just not good enough

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2009, 01:44:37 PM »
Consistent over a remarkably short time period? I think that is what they call a stretch.

Mr. Olympia

1992: Levrone 2nd
1993: Levrone 6th
1994: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 7th
1995: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 3rd
1996: Levrone 3rd, Nasser disqualified
1997: Nasser 2nd, Levrone 4th
1998: Nasser 3rd, Levrone 4th
1999: Levrone 4th, Nasser 6th
2000: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 5th
2001: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 9th
2002: Levrond 2nd, Nasser 15th
2003: Levrone 6th

You're ignoring the Arnold Classic shows.  From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC.  That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2009, 01:48:12 PM »
From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC. 

Nasser beat Levrone in AC 97 and 99.


translation:

Levrone = better bodybuilding genetics

Nasser = product of drug use that was bound to burn out

Yes, seems about right.

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2009, 01:48:27 PM »
  That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.

LOL their respective prime?!  ;D

Levrone got runner up in the Olympia in 95, and then again in 2000 (i think or 2002)... Levrone could come back even today and probably crack top three at the O.  ;)
just not good enough

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2009, 01:49:13 PM »
You're ignoring the Arnold Classic shows.  From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC.  That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2009, 02:01:40 PM »
i believe that both of us are saying the same thing.. that kevin's career was better but when both were at their best nasser's body was better..

actually no i am not saying that

nasser was bigger but Mr. Levrone was better overall

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2009, 02:21:16 PM »
Consistent over a remarkably short time period? I think that is what they call a stretch.

Mr. Olympia

1992: Levrone 2nd
1993: Levrone 6th
1994: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 7th
1995: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 3rd
1996: Levrone 3rd, Nasser disqualified
1997: Nasser 2nd, Levrone 4th
1998: Nasser 3rd, Levrone 4th
1999: Levrone 4th, Nasser 6th
2000: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 5th
2001: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 9th
2002: Levrond 2nd, Nasser 15th
2003: Levrone 6th

levrone was 5th and not 6th in 1993.. go and study some history :P

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2009, 02:28:31 PM »
levrone was 5th and not 6th in 1993.. go and study some history :P

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2009, 07:16:54 AM »
Peak Nasser bests everyone and everything ever seen on the stage. I truly believe that.

I think Kevin had probably better consistency - funny that people never mention his rampant synthol use - but he never matched Nasser at his best. Nasser has admitted that he did tail off a bit later in his career.. events like September 11th and his obvious demotivation and falling out of love with the sport after the constant crooked fixes and thefts of his olympias took their toll.

However, for a 4/5 year period Nasser genuinely built the most perfect physique in terms of mass, symmetry, proportion and conditioning. Kevin was not proportional, he look freaky at times with his big , synthol arms and delts but he was not as proportional as Nasser. This is important part of the judging. Nasser at his best was perfection because nothing dominated and nothing was under developed, just perfect.

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2009, 07:23:05 AM »
You're ignoring the Arnold Classic shows.  From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC.  That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.

Levrone had already past his prime in '96 event though he got to runner-up placings at the 'O after. But his legs kept being weaker and weaker. His prime was between 92 and 95 (specialy those two editions). Levrone had his best had a complete physique which Nasser never developped unofrtunately. Nasser looked great from the back (and with good def) at a lighterweight then looked great from the front at a heavierweight (but lost his back) and he never had both at the same time. You would have to add Nasser's bodyparts from different years to get a picture of how he could look at his "best". And that's where lies the problem, Nasser never ever reached his true peak.

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Re: Nasser's Back vs. Levrone's Back
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2009, 07:48:51 AM »
Peak Nasser bests everyone and everything ever seen on the stage. I truly believe that.

Few others share this opinion. Most would probably go for Ronnie, Dorian, Flex, Shawn, Kevin, Arnold or so on.

I think Kevin had probably better consistency

You think?

constant crooked fixes and thefts of his olympias

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Nasser at his best was perfection because nothing dominated and nothing was under developed, just perfect.

In your guy eyes, sure, I can understand that.