Hard Training??????

[mesmorph78]

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1998/226/
is this a back session.. all machines no freeweights???

i respect gaspari he is a seasoned veteran and has already put the hardwork....
but that back session to me looks so weak and sissy no deads no chins.. no REAL rows
opinions?

[tendonitis]

he works his back about as hard as you work your legs 

[ASJChaotic]

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1998/226/
is this a back session.. all machines no freeweights???

i respect gaspari he is a seasoned veteran and has already put the hardwork....
but that back session to me looks so weak and sissy no deads no chins.. no REAL rows
opinions?

he doesn't look like the kind of guy who could handle hard training
so here is a guy who could 

[tbombz]

did you listen to the video meso?

what makes a exercise difficult? because its traditionally considered "hardcore" ?   or because of the actual effort put into the exercise?



AXA - is it necessary to yell and grunt and scream and make faces in order to be pushing with full intensity ?

[ASJChaotic]

did you listen to the video meso?

what makes a exercise difficult? because its traditionally considered "hardcore" ?   or because of the actual effort put into the exercise?



AXA - is it necessary to yell and grunt and scream and make faces in order to be pushing with full intensity ?

yes, and it is necessary to have a training partner like Leroy scream "SQUEEZE DIESEL MAN!!!!!  "
 

[TommyBoy]

To be fair, I HATE back machines. I can't breathe when I am on them.

[mesmorph78]

he works his back about as hard as you work your legs 

worked legs today coincidentally.. very hard
thx for the concern

[Awesomo]

To be fair, I HATE back machines. I can't breathe when I am on them.

Nothing worse then trying to hold in a shit on back day. Virtually impossible if you are using those machines that push against your stomach as you pull the weight.

[ASJChaotic]

Nothing worse then trying to hold in a shit on back day. Virtually impossible if you are using those machines that push against your stomach as you pull the weight.

How is the pool prep coming along my friend? 
how many more pounds to lose?

[mesmorph78]

did you listen to the video meso?

what makes a exercise difficult? because its traditionally considered "hardcore" ?   or because of the actual effort put into the exercise?



AXA - is it necessary to yell and grunt and scream and make faces in order to be pushing with full intensity ?

this is whats wrong with bb today its sissy.....

arnold and his boys training now thats hard training
now everybody want muscles but with as little effort as possible.. its all about the look
tbombz that session was sissy... no chins... no deads no barbell rows no dumbell rows all machines and cables..
des wathcing that inspire you in anyway its not like it was carles glass or milos showin a different excersise for variety.... so that huge guy trains like that then is justified to eat 10 meals aday.....
 
give me the old days anyday

[ASJChaotic]

this is whats wrong with bb today its sissy.....

arnold and his boys training now thats hard training
now everybody want muscles but with as little effort as possible.. its all about the look
tbombz that session was sissy... no chins... no deads no barbell rows no dumbell rows all machines and cables..
des wathcing that inspire you in anyway its not like it was carles glass or milos showin a different excersise for variety.... so that huge guy trains like that then is justified to eat 10 meals aday.....
 
give me the old days anyday

I think today guys rely more on their combination of drugs for muscle gains rather than workouts

[mesmorph78]

this seems quite apparent

[tbombz]

this is whats wrong with bb today its sissy.....

arnold and his boys training now thats hard training
now everybody want muscles but with as little effort as possible.. its all about the look
tbombz that session was sissy... no chins... no deads no barbell rows no dumbell rows all machines and cables..
des wathcing that inspire you in anyway its not like it was carles glass or milos showin a different excersise for variety.... so that huge guy trains like that then is justified to eat 10 meals aday.....
 
give me the old days anyday

how is it sissy? they lookoed to be putting in quite a bit of effort. would it have been hard trainign if they, instead of the workout they did do, just did 5 sets deads, 5 sets bb rows, and 10 sets chins?  what if they did that workoiut, but with less effort than the "all machine sissy" workout? would the machine workout still be more sissy than the workout with "hardcore exercises"?  

shouldnt the measure of a workout be the effort put into it, and thr growth resulting from it...... rather than if it does or does not meet traditional standards of "hardcore exercises" ?

[FREAKgeek]

Nothing worse then trying to hold in a shit on back day. Virtually impossible if you are using those machines that push against your stomach as you pull the weight.

Dear god go the restroom and let it out.

[Palpatine Q]

this is whats wrong with bb today its sissy.....

arnold and his boys training now thats hard training
now everybody want muscles but with as little effort as possible.. its all about the look
tbombz that session was sissy... no chins... no deads no barbell rows no dumbell rows all machines and cables..
des wathcing that inspire you in anyway its not like it was carles glass or milos showin a different excersise for variety.... guyso that huge guy trains like that then is justified to eat 10 meals aday.....
 
give me the old days anyday

he's big but i wouldn't call him huge

[tbombz]

he's big but i wouldn't call him huge

i wish QO was here to pwn you for all these comments youve been making lately about top NPC competitors not being huge or impressive. 

[Boost]

Hyperplasia > The traidtional Hypertrophy model

I haven't stepped foot in a gym for 5 weeks

I am larger and leaner than I've ever been with way more vascularity and fullness

It's all about pumping the muscle full of blood many times per week.

Stretching the Fascia

[mesmorph78]

how is it sissy? they lookoed to be putting in quite a bit of effort. would it have been hard trainign if they, instead of the workout they did do, just did 5 sets deads, 5 sets bb rows, and 10 sets chins?  what if they did that workoiut, but with less effort than the "all machine sissy" workout? would the machine workout still be more sissy than the workout with "hardcore exercises"?  

shouldnt the measure of a workout be the effort put into it, and thr growth resulting from it...... rather than if it does or does not meet traditional standards of "hardcore exercises" ?

you are 100% correct because he would have to put 1000 times more effort into doing a real back session..with chins deads and real rows it seems all bbers in these days do is put effort into is drugs or whatever they do gurus.. and eating... 10 meals a day...
what yates coleman arnold... did was REAL training.... and also they loved training...
not loved looking for shorcuts around training.. when u watch bbing vids your supposed to be inspired.... NOTHING about that inspired me were you inspired tbombz did that make you want to rush out and do back?

[tbombz]

you are 100% correct because he would have to put 1000 times more effort into doing a real back session..with chins deads and real rows it seems all bbers in these days do is put effort into is drugs or whatever they do gurus.. and eating... 10 meals a day...
what yates coleman arnold... did was REAL training.... and also they loved training...
not loved looking for shorcuts around training.. when u watch bbing vids your supposed to be inspired.... NOTHING about that inspired me were you inspired tbombz did that make you want to rush out and do back?

did it inspire me to go train? well i dont know, im always eager to get in the gym...

ill tell you what, since the first day i started lifting, ive always felt that a muscle contraction from any one exercise was equal to a muscle contratiopn fro any other exercise. squats are always touted as best for legs...but you know what.. hack squats are best for me. i never ever do barbell squats. i rarely ever do deadlift or bb rows, but i love smith machine bb rows and seated cable rows and hammer grip chins and straight arm pulldowns....etc...     i love to train.... but i dont do the "hardcore exercises"...because they dont work very well for me...squats are all lower back... deads dont do shit for my back even if i pull 5 plates... barbell rows are all biceps... so i like to do hacks squats and smuth mahcine rows and rack deads and cable rows and machines of all types too....      i train with everything i have in me...why? because i love to train and to lift and to get pumped and and to grow..

[bodybuilding25]

Hyperplasia > The traidtional Hypertrophy model


It's all about pumping the muscle full of blood many times per week.

do you know what hyperplasia is?

I think you have confused it for sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.

[mesmorph78]

did it inspire me to go train? well i dont know, im always eager to get in the gym...

ill tell you what, since the first day i started lifting, ive always felt that a muscle contraction from any one exercise was equal to a muscle contratiopn fro any other exercise. squats are always touted as best for legs...but you know what.. hack squats are best for me. i never ever do barbell squats. i rarely ever do deadlift or bb rows, but i love smith machine bb rows and seated cable rows and hammer grip chins and straight arm pulldowns....etc...     i love to train.... but i dont do the "hardcore exercises"...because they dont work very well for me...squats are all lower back... deads dont do shit for my back even if i pull 5 plates... barbell rows are all biceps... so i like to do hacks squats and smuth mahcine rows and rack deads and cable rows and machines of all types too....      i train with everything i have in me...why? because i love to train and to lift and to get pumped and and to grow..

i have quite a good back.. built on bb rows.. chins and deads....
not machines....
but then again the look is secondays by far to the feel for me

[Palpatine Q]

i wish QO was here to pwn you for all these comments youve been making lately about top NPC competitors not being huge or impressive. 

I guess when someone says an amateur is HUGE i think of a Zack Khan type....these dudes are big dudes but not  "holy shit" big.

Hey tbombz  why is it that you are pro -Kuclo but you rag on Cenotpani?  He owns that dude and they have been around about the same amount of time.

 if anything i heard about Kuclo first

[Awesomo]

How is the pool prep coming along my friend? 
how many more pounds to lose?

On my way. Went to the pool last weekend but definitely wasn't satisfied. I'm solidly under 190 right now. Next step is to get into the 170's within a couple weeks. I am hitting up the jersey shore memorial (or is it labor) day in late may so I need to be ready for that.

[ASJChaotic]

On my way. Went to the pool last weekend but definitely wasn't satisfied. I'm solidly under 190 right now. Next step is to get into the 170's within a couple weeks. I am hitting up the jersey shore memorial (or is it labor) day in late may so I need to be ready for that.

Cool bro 
ya I think people are differently surprised how much fat they have to lose to get ripped
what do you think?
they think they have 10 pounds then end up having to lose 40 LOL 

[Cleanest Natural]

did you listen to the video meso?

what makes a exercise difficult? because its traditionally considered "hardcore" ?   or because of the actual effort put into the exercise?



AXA - is it necessary to yell and grunt and scream and make faces in order to be pushing with full intensity ?

exactly !