Author Topic: Nasser's Quads vs. Dorian's Quads = Barbell Squats vs. Smith Machine Squats  (Read 19016 times)

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check flex march 1997 (page 140) for dorian saying he was better in 1996 than in 1995...

check flex dec. 1995 (page 141) for flex saying kevin was lighter in 1995 than 1994 but not more defined and lacked soem of 94 freakness!!.. but yes they had a plus points for him in 95 for having a better back and chest than 94..




post the quote in it's entirety , don't omit anything

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LOL if dorian said that he is just as delusional as the nuthuggers that post about him.. ::)

dorian was terrible in 1996. even his upper  back was soft, an area that was traditionally dry as a bone for him
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post the quote in it's entirety , don't omit anything

as i told you dorian lied to himself and thought he was better in 96 than in 95 but now after he retired and can see things better he changed his words and said that 95 was his best ever!!..

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as i told you dorian lied to himself and thought he was better in 96 than in 95 but now after he retired and can see things better he changed his words and said that 95 was his best ever!!..

LMAO you told me he lied to himself  ::) no maybe he was thinking better for different reasons it happens , Ronnie said he was better in 1999 than 1998 and after reflecting on his career he said he was better in 1998 because his conditioning was better it doesn't mean he was lying to himself , there may have been things he liked better from one year to the next but when stepped back from the situation he can put things into prospective .

you're reaching when you say he was lying to himself , you're not working with much . Dorian is one of the more honest and objective Pros which is why he's a judge .

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LOL if dorian said that he is just as delusional as the nuthuggers that post about him.. ::)

dorian was terrible in 1996. even his upper  back was soft, an area that was traditionally dry as a bone for him

i see dorian's 6 olympia victories as follows:

1- 1993
2- 1995
3- 1992
4- 1994
5- 1996 (didnt deserve to win)
6- 1997 (didnt deserve to be in the top 3)

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there may have been things he liked better from one year to the next but when stepped back from the situation he can put things into prospective .

or he can look back on a foggy memory and forget, as what happened there. 99>> 98.

reality shows he was right the first time. sorry.
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LMAO you told me he lied to himself  ::) no maybe he was thinking better for different reasons it happens , Ronnie said he was better in 1999 than 1998 and after reflecting on his career he said he was better in 1998 because his conditioning was better it doesn't mean he was lying to himself , there may have been things he liked better from one year to the next but when stepped back from the situation he can put things into prospective .

you're reaching when you say he was lying to himself , you're not working with much . Dorian is one of the more honest and objective Pros which is why he's a judge .

don’t be an idiot, i already said that i trust his credibility.. i didn’t say he was a liar i meant he was trying to convince himself by something!!.. this is not a bad thing,.. we all do this.. what is your problem?!..

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LOL if dorian said that he is just as delusional as the nuthuggers that post about him.. ::)

dorian was terrible in 1996. even his upper  back was soft, an area that was traditionally dry as a bone for him

It honestly never ceases to amaze me how little you know about competitive bodybuilding lol I laugh when you commit to statements because they always come back to haunt you

his back is under NO circumstances ' soft ' it's hard as nails and dry as fuck , you can clearly see the separation and depth of all the muscles of the back , you post a single picture and make a declaration as if it's law lol using your logic we can say Ronnie is ' soft ' in this pic because of this pic which is total bullshit , these are all 1996 troll  ;)

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don’t be an idiot, i already said that i trust his credibility.. i didn’t say he was a liar i meant he was trying to convince himself by something!!.. this is not a bad thing,.. we all do this.. what is your problem?!..

NO you did say he was lying to himself I don't care what you meant , I can only go by what you typed , type what you mean this helps  ;)

And how about proving this claim that Nasser has the second best quads behind Platz ?  ;D

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It honestly never ceases to amaze me how little you know about competitive bodybuilding lol I laugh when you commit to statements because they always come back to haunt you

his back is under NO circumstances ' soft ' it's hard as nails and dry as fuck , you can clearly see the separation and depth of all the muscles of the back , you post a single picture and make a declaration as if it's law lol using your logic we can say Ronnie is ' soft ' in this pic because of this pic which is total bullshit , these are all 1996 troll  ;)

funny you are posting dorian 1996 pictures showing him posing alone!!.. post some comparisons pics!!

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or he can look back on a foggy memory and forget, as what happened there. 99>> 98.

reality shows he was right the first time. sorry.

What's funny is the experts concur about 1998  ;) which is exactly why 1999 is NOT considered his peak showing by ANYONE over the span of his whole career

2001 he was 247 pounds and it's considered his prime showing , if as you say he was just as conditioned as he was in 01 with 10 more pounds and more fullness this would be his prime showing and it's not lol something you still can't prove  ;)

that's the difference between you and I , I prove my points using experts YOU make shit up and deny the experts lol

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funny you are posting dorian 1996 pictures showing him posing alone!!.. post some comparisons pics!!

wow another one right over your head  ::) he said his back was soft in 1996 hence the BACK pictures

and Dorian destroyed Nasser in 1996 there was NO contest , he came close in 1997 1996 he lost flat out.


' comparison pics '  ;)

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wow another one right over your head  ::) he said his back was soft in 1996 hence the BACK pictures

and Dorian destroyed Nasser in 1996 there was NO contest , he came close in 1997 1996 he lost flat out.


' comparison pics '  ;)


hahhahaha do you save only back pics of dorian in your pc??.. where are the front shots??.. sure dorian was the best from the rear but from the front nasser was MUCH better than him specially in 96 and 97.. actuallu in 97 i use your same word there was NO CONTEST..

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hahhahaha do you save only back pics of dorian in your pc??.. where are the front shots??.. sure dorian was the best from the rear but from the front nasser was MUCH better than him specially in 96 and 97.. actuallu in 97 i use your same word there was NO CONTEST..

did I not post a front latspread? did I not? Dorian himself said Nasser could match or even beat him in some shots from the front ( is he lying to himself there too?  ;) ) I've always maintained Nasser is very comparable in the front and depending on the year better , however contests aren't just judged from the front or even the back but from all angles and guess who always came out on top?  ;) the judges agree with my opinion  ;D


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did I not post a front latspread? did I not? Dorian himself said Nasser could match or even beat him in some shots from the front ( is he lying to himself there too?  ;) ) I've always maintained Nasser is very comparable in the front and depending on the year better , however contests aren't just judged from the front or even the back but from all angles and guess who always came out on top?  ;) the judges agree with my opinion  ;D



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2001, the holy grail, and Ronnie looking like something I shit out in my toilet this morning haha

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I prove my points using experts YOU make shit up and deny the experts lol

so now you you are saying Ronnie is not an expert? ::)

sorry bud. Ronnie himself stated he was better in 99 with better conditioning than 98, and the contest videos and pics corroborate this.

there is nothing more to be said.

as far as the AC goes, yes that was probably the best conditioned he has ever been. BUT in 99 he was 98% of that conditioning and 10 pounds bigger..

which is better?

its a toss up:

99 GP vs 01 AC:



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really the only pose i give to dorian over nasser on that day is the rear lat spread!!..

nasser with his better hams and much better and bigger shoulders and arms was better in the fdb, specially dorian's back was farway from its best!!..

as for the rest of the poses there was no contest!

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2001, the holy grail, and Ronnie looking like something I shit out in my toilet this morning haha



the holy grail, looking like something dorian or nasser never match let alone could beat: :P
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This is bodybuilding perfection.

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one of Dorian actually tensed while standing relaxed from the front notice a difference?

front double biceps Nasser easily

front latspread Dorian

side chest Dorian , Nasser doesn't even know how to hit the shot correctly







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This is bodybuilding perfection.



too bad this pic has about the same number of believers on getbig..haha
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the holy grail, looking like something dorian or nasser never match let alone could beat: :P

We knew the Ronnie pics were coming  ::)

Trollster at it again

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too bad this pic has about the same number of believers on getbig..haha

ha ha ha meltdown whenever a great Yates pic surfaces Trollster cries fake

Those quads kill Nasser and Ronnie light  ;)