Author Topic: Tom Prince - Strength Claims from the past (Read 13497 times)

TRIX · « **on:** May 05, 2009, 04:04:55 PM »

QUOTE FROM HIM

Sorry, gents. Overall, I think I took all 3 guys you mentioned. Pardon me for tooting my own horn.

I inclined 495 X 6. 545 x 2. Shoulder pressed 495 x 5. Did seated dumbells with NO swinging, perfect slow form, with the 85's x 8 (Bob Cicherillo saw this one).

Hack Squated 1080 (12 plates a side) x 3. Squatted 805 in a powermeet, clean, when I was 24. I squatted 765 x 2 in the GYM, with no powersuit. Close-Grip Benched 455 x 5. Did incline dumbells with the 200's for 8. Hammer Strength machine lying down with 7 plates plus a 25 on each side for 6 (Titus was training with me that day).

Deadlifts were too booring.. but I did Stiff Leg Dead with 495 for 8 reps.

Standing Calf Machine with 1000 pounds for 6 reps when I was 24.

Overall, I think I was stronger than anyone. I'd Ronnie was real close, though. The thing with Ronnie's training is that he cheats and swings on EVERYTHING. Ive seen him train lots of times. Hard to compare exactly when he bounces everything all over the place. Jay trains the same way, even though he's no where near as strong as Ronnie.

Sucks that I got sick right before Mitsuru Okabe and I could shoot a video together. We had plans to video tape all of this.

looking huge these days

and now...

Method101 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:08:02 PM »

what exactly happend to him and why does it prevent him from building muscle naturally now?

QuakerOats · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:08:16 PM »

i'd have to see the 545x2 incline, 200 pound db's for 8 incline and the 495x5 shoulder press for myself, the rest i believe, the man was 300 pounds offseason at around 5'8".

QuakerOats · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:11:29 PM »

also 12 plates on each side of the Flex Fitness hack squat i believe because that's one of the easier hacks out there but on the Cybex hack.....no fuccking way, 3 plates on that one feels like 6 on the Flex.

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:23:09 PM »

Ask Chick about his "Strength Claims?"

TRIX · « **Reply #5 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:29:32 PM »

Quote from: Method101 on May 05, 2009, 04:08:02 PM

what exactly happend to him and why does it prevent him from building muscle naturally now?

think he had kidney problems, to many orals! was taking like 16 - 24 advils a day every day for 2 years LOL

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #6 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:31:38 PM »

He was using Chicks version of Egg Whites which made his Strength much greater then regular egg whites!

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #7 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:33:34 PM »

Amazing how he lost 200lbs. of muscle mass in a year or so... and steroids are just the finishing touch

right Bob ?

TrapsMcLats · « **Reply #8 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:36:04 PM »

um... no

Matt C · « **Reply #9 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:38:26 PM »

I heard that he could handle 160 pound dumbbells for seated dumbbell press pretty easily for reps. As QuakerOats said, he was 300 at around 5'8. I believe the weight he gave was 312. He was known for being incredibly strong. I don't think he was quite at Ronnie's level, but one of the few pros who was probably close enough where he could have trained with Ronnie and not embarrassed himself.

titusisback · « **Reply #10 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:38:39 PM »

Sad part is he can only lift 97% of those weights today

TRIX · « **Reply #11 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:44:30 PM »

how much do u think he benches now?

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #12 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:47:00 PM »

135

JimmyJam1974 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:52:54 PM »

Quote from: TRIX on May 05, 2009, 04:44:30 PM

how much do u think he benches now?

Only uses "the perfect pushup"

TRIX · « **Reply #14 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:58:48 PM »

Quote from: JimmyJam1974 on May 05, 2009, 04:52:54 PM

Only uses "the perfect pushup"

lol!

benchthis · « **Reply #15 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:00:13 PM »

Quote from: TRIX on May 05, 2009, 04:04:55 PM

QUOTE FROM HIM

Sorry, gents. Overall, I think I took all 3 guys you mentioned. Pardon me for tooting my own horn.

I inclined 495 X 6. 545 x 2. Shoulder pressed 495 x 5. Did seated dumbells with NO swinging, perfect slow form, with the 85's x 8 (Bob Cicherillo saw this one).

Hack Squated 1080 (12 plates a side) x 3. Squatted 805 in a powermeet, clean, when I was 24. I squatted 765 x 2 in the GYM, with no powersuit. Close-Grip Benched 455 x 5. Did incline dumbells with the 200's for 8. Hammer Strength machine lying down with 7 plates plus a 25 on each side for 6 (Titus was training with me that day).

Deadlifts were too booring.. but I did Stiff Leg Dead with 495 for 8 reps.

Standing Calf Machine with 1000 pounds for 6 reps when I was 24.

Overall, I think I was stronger than anyone. I'd Ronnie was real close, though. The thing with Ronnie's training is that he cheats and swings on EVERYTHING. Ive seen him train lots of times. Hard to compare exactly when he bounces everything all over the place. Jay trains the same way, even though he's no where near as strong as Ronnie.

Sucks that I got sick right before Mitsuru Okabe and I could shoot a video together. We had plans to video tape all of this.

looking huge these days

lol does it matter now.. without the juice he was now where near that...

The_Punisher · « **Reply #16 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:03:39 PM »

that Muthafucker was not as strong as Johnie jackson is

Ron · « **Reply #17 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:04:11 PM »

Well, to be truthful, when Tom Prince was training back in the days, he was extremely strong, and wouldnt doubt those claims, at least once or twice.

Chick · « **Reply #18 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:12:36 PM »

All true....I've seen many a pro train...TP was amongst the strongest, Johhnie Jackson and certainly Ronnie

His claim of slow steady movement was also true...ZERO swinging. The other thing that always amazed me was that he started his movements from the BOTTOM ( imagine starting a incline press from the bottom of the movement)...

Ursus · « **Reply #19 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:21:16 PM »

What type of 'powermeets' require you to do triples? Doubt the closegrip

Matt C · « **Reply #20 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:22:31 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 05, 2009, 05:12:36 PM

All true....I've seen many a pro train...TP was amongst the strongest, Johhnie Jackson and certainly Ronnie

His claim of slow steady movement was also true...ZERO swinging. The other thing that always amazed me was that he started his movements from the BOTTOM ( imagine starting a incline press from the bottom of the movement)...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you mean he lowered the bar to his chest, paused, then started the press?

Chick · « **Reply #21 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:24:36 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on May 05, 2009, 05:22:31 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you mean he lowered the bar to his chest, paused, then started the press?

No....he loaded up the bar at the bottom position and started his reps from there....if anyone wants to see how hard that is, go ahead and try it....always made me laugh

Ursus · « **Reply #22 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:25:28 PM »

how did he load the bar if he was under it?

Chick · « **Reply #23 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:30:21 PM »

Quote from: Ursus on May 05, 2009, 05:25:28 PM

how did he load the bar if he was under it?

Either on the smith machine or on the lowest pegs on the incline bench

Ursus · « **Reply #24 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:32:45 PM »

ahhhh smith machine lifts. i believe them now.