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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2009, 01:26:07 PM »
i can touch and go on 315 on a good day, this is with someone unracking it for me.

when i was in better shape about 3 years ago i could get 315 by myself.

the difference now is i am a fat 220, and then i was in the 190's and in shape.

at my last gym i almost never saw anyone bench over 225, the gym i go to now there are a hand full of guys that bench 315, some of their forms are questionable.

i just don't think many people aspire to bench 315 on the flat. every year i see more and more guys using the hammer strength, DBs, and the smith machine. even on this board many people post that the flat is useless, and or the incline is better for building muscle.




Thats a good point...I don't think many lifters aspire to do it either.....no one in my gym even talks about doing this

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2009, 01:28:03 PM »
It's hard to say.  I don't consider 315 a huge bench by any means, however it's pretty decent.  Only a handful of guys in any gym I've worked out at can do it raw on average.  It's impossible to say what the max a natural can max bench, however I know for a fact that 500+ raw can be done naturally.  Some people naturally have a very strong bench.



Really?..A 500 Bench RAW?....I thought that was impossible for a Nat

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2009, 01:29:44 PM »
i agree with point i feel more ppl are shying away from bench pressing.

In my gym atm shoulpder pressing is taking off big time

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2009, 01:30:41 PM »
Here's me doing 405 X 5. I'm 6' 215# and have a 6 pack.



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okay..very good.....don't get offended..I was just saying that VERY FEW can do it..I didn't say NO ONE can

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2009, 01:32:40 PM »
GUYS...LETS CUT THE CRAP AND BE REAL...VERY FEW LIFTERS CAN BENCH 315....I'M TALKING NATURALS HERE OF COURSE...NOT THE NEANDERTHALS ON JUICE...I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF MY GYM FOR FOUR YEARS AND I HAVE ONLY SEEN TWO PEOPLE DO IT...VERY FEW EVEN ATTEMPT IT....I MYSELF AM TRYING TO WORK TOWARD IT BUT I AM AT 285...

AND I AM TALKING LIFTING 315 WITHOUT HELP FROM A SPOTTER.....WITHOUT A BENCH SHIRT AND ON THE FREESTANDING OLYMPIC BAR NOT ON THE ASSISTED RACK.

YET EVERYONE ON HERE CLAIMS TO BE BENCHING WAY ABOVE THAT

YOU GUYS AGREE?...AND WHAT IS THE ABSOLUTE WEIGHT LIMIT THAT A NATURAL CAN BENCH?

I can barely bench 200.
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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2009, 01:32:58 PM »
depends on genetics for benching and technique

I think 405 and maybe above are doable ...

this dude I know did 405x1 alone...I spotted him

he is a a local interlope turned bussinessman and is a strong dude

former wrestler

on pressing

on pulling he is pathetic

I used to train chest w/ him






What is your max on Bench Sev?

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2009, 01:33:22 PM »
aim for 21-0 as your next goal. make small aims

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2009, 01:34:26 PM »
here's my 315 x10

on gear






WOW..that was awesome Sev :)

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2009, 01:38:30 PM »



WOW..that was awesome Sev :)

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2009, 01:42:20 PM »
I used Shawn Phillips' add 50lbs to your bench in 7 weeks plan and got 325 for one rep.  That was at 5'9  182.  Chest still sucked, though.

http://musclemedia.com/training/bench/benchintro.asp

Probably could do about 280 now at 172.
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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2009, 01:51:35 PM »
Once again, you're doing what you do best: Make tired, pitiful excuses for your lack of personal progress. Where exactly do you train, Curves?

Instead of obssessing on what naturals supposedly can or can't do, perhaps you should focus on your training (and more importantly, your diet).

Furthermore, your own statement betrays you. Are we to believe that you absolutely CANNOT add an extra 30 lbs. to your bench press without drugs? In the event you actually accomplish that, can we then accuse you of taking everything but the kitchen sink?

315 is working weight for me (5-8 reps) and has been for several years. And, back in college, I could barely afford Mega Mass and Challenge Milk & Egg Protein powder, much less steroids or any other drugs.

Bottom line: It took eating/drinking thousands of calories, day after day, week after week, and month after month, to put on enough size to accomplish that feat.

Was it easy? NO!
Did I gain pure muscle? HARDLY!!!
Did I feel like ramming that much food down my throat daily? I DON'T THINK SO!!

But, in the end, I stuck with it and got the job done.


It's good to see you AGAIN McWay....you seem to be riding my ass for some reason...but I hardly think that me being unable (yet) to bench 315 is an indication of my not trying hard enough or having a lousy diet or not taking in the proper supps or calories....although you are right I am not perfect at doing the above by any means....but the fact is that even many people who do those things you espouse above still cannot get to 315 on bench....

maybe it's my gentics...I'm a short hulking fuck at 5'5"....(strangers in the street will often comment to me how big I am)..so maybe it could be due to my being short, or lack of arm strength....maybe not having the leverage of a bigger guy....or being too big around the middle and not having a six-pack....

I never said that no one could do it..just that it is extremely difficult to do and many who brag that they are doing it are lying or on juice...I am happy that you are able to do it...but as I have said there are many guys in my gym who look way better than me and have great bodies and can't do it either....I am benching 285 and I am at the high end of the benchers in my gym..I know people are going to make fun of that, but remember I am not in California or Florida where the percentage of heavy benchers are skewed due to physique guys flocking to those areas...I am in a neighborhood gym in New York with regular neighborhood guys who work everyday

unless maybe you have some super duper incredible supplement that you take that will do the job for me....since you are such a shill for the supp companies ;)

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2009, 01:53:05 PM »
Here's me doing 405 X 5. I'm 6' 215# and have a 6 pack.



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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2009, 01:53:12 PM »
have you guys tried Plazmosis? once you try it, 315lbs bench press is a breeze ;D, what a wonder......hahahahhahah aha




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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2009, 02:01:57 PM »
Here's me doing 405 X 5. I'm 6' 215# and have a 6 pack.



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That is remarkable, given your size.

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2009, 02:05:59 PM »
Do you have to be a tall guy on average to bench 315 or more?..does it have more to do with leverage?..having long legs and long arms?

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2009, 02:11:07 PM »
Do you have to be a tall guy on average to bench 315 or more?..does it have more to do with leverage?..having long legs and long arms?
Leverage has a lot to do with it. Actually I thought shorter guys had the advantage. Some people are just stronger on certain lifts and weak on others. My old workout partners for example loved to show off on bench day, but when it was my time to shine on leg day they would suddenly disappear?

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2009, 02:18:31 PM »
Leverage has a lot to do with it. Actually I thought shorter guys had the advantage. Some people are just stronger on certain lifts and weak on others. My old workout partners for example loved to show off on bench day, but when it was my time to shine on leg day they would suddenly disappear?





Funny! :)

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2009, 03:25:10 PM »
I want to get my bench up to the high 300s which I think is realistic, perhaps even this year.
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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2009, 03:30:49 PM »
Benching 315 should only be attempted in the height of summertime.

I've seen Pecs literally been torn from tendons during heavy winter sessions.

Gotta keep those muscles warm.

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2009, 03:39:24 PM »
anybody with average genes should be able to lift that.it just takes time and hard work.

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #70 on: May 06, 2009, 03:53:21 PM »
Benching 315 should only be attempted in the height of summertime.

I've seen Pecs literally been torn from tendons during heavy winter sessions.

Gotta keep those muscles warm.

I thought you only did bodyweight exercises and warming up...
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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2009, 04:01:58 PM »
I can't at all hahaha! My weight is 160, anyway I would like to be able and it's not an excuse, of course is possible for naturals.

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2009, 04:06:07 PM »
315 is not hard at all.  And first of all 4 years in the gym means shit.  You don't have to be on juice either.  Lame ass

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2009, 05:02:37 PM »
315 is not hard at all.  And first of all 4 years in the gym means shit.  You don't have to be on juice either.  Lame ass




coming from someone who is probably on gear

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Re: LETS CUT THE CRAP GETBIGGERS...VERY FEW CAN BENCH 315
« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2009, 05:04:34 PM »



coming from someone who is probably on gear

irrelevant for body composition

wavelength approved
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