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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2009, 05:28:21 PM »
its quite simple

the ones who look like shit = naturals

the ones who look like real bodybuilders = juicing

There are guys who juice who look like shit, just like there are guys who are natural who look great. The "average" juicer looks a lot more muscular than the "average" nattie

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2009, 05:31:55 PM »
Because it is no where as impressive to achieve a good physique of a natural on steroids
Do you know how hard getting 18" arms naturally are, many guys on steroids on this site don't have 18" arms
Steroids help you keep your muscle while getting your bodyfat low and help you lose fat, this is why naturals look like twinks when they diet down
and it takes them so long,  The point is that they do it drug free, and without being drug addicts.  :)

Those guys like Meso are genetically gifted; he trains, WOW, we all train, look at what he eats? Not very impressive. Genetics are not impressive in and of themselves...
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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2009, 01:35:53 AM »
Most ultra achievers have sacrificed way more than anybody knows.

but.. if that’s what they want.. and it makes them happy.. is it really a sacrifice?

doing something great will require all of you..  that thing will consume you.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2009, 02:00:15 AM »
but.. if that’s what they want.. and it makes them happy.. is it really a sacrifice?

doing something great will require all of you..  that thing will consume you.


Doing what you love is great, feels more like play than work.

Debussey was also loosely refering to all the things you can not do if you want to become world class at something.

Let us say that you are a world class violinist at 35. You love to practice, and you've done it practically every day since age 10.
From the time you were 14, you've practiced for an average of 3 hours per day, 6+ days per week (which is a very moderate assessment for a world class performer), which turns out to about 1000 hours per year not including time spent travelling back and fourth from your teacher.
If we include time travelled back and fourth from practice (teacher, orchestra ect) and administrative stuff regarding your training, lets add about 1 hour per "practice day".

Now, lets say that at 15 the kid is in high school. The kid leaves for school at 08:00 and comes home 15:00 every day. Homework is from 15:30 -> 1630. Dinner is at 1630, and the travel to playing practice starts at 17:30 -> 4H -> Home again 21:30. At this time the kid = pretty tired and ready for bed. This goes on monday - friday, sat = off, sunday = practice.

Even though the kid gets some slack during the weekends, you can see how packed the kids day becomes with school and practice. Not much time is left for friends, slacking off and the other stuff kids do. THIS is what Debussey means by the sacrifice, all the stuff that can not be done due to what you do (alternative cost).

After high school, the kid enters a high ranking music university, with classes all day and practice on top of that. The kid gets involved with an orchestra and time left after classes, practice and performing per week = very limited.

After the uni, the kid has turned into a mature world class performer, that lives and breathes his craft every day.

At this point, the person is probably living a very good life, doing what he truly loves and being of world class caliber within his field. At the same time, the kid has "missed out" on a lot of stuff other kids could do. In this case it probably did not matter that much, as crafting himself into a world class violin performer had a lot more value to the person than goofing off and drinking with his friends and feeling a ton of regret at 35.


If anything, this example shows why most people just never become great at anything. The average person is not talented enough, and the efforts needed to be put in is not something the normal person can even grasp. They probably think that the kid was just redicolusly talented and did not practice much, but they fail to see the years the kid spent grinding away to get good as his craft while they were out drinking and watching tv.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2009, 02:08:29 AM »
If anything, this example shows why most people just never become great at anything. The average person is not talented enough, and the efforts needed to be put in is not something the normal person can even grasp.

I agree. but the people who are able.. and put in the effort.. really don’t have a choice. they wouldn’t be satisfied doing anything else.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #55 on: May 08, 2009, 02:10:46 AM »
I agree. but the people who are able.. and put in the effort.. really don’t have a choice. they wouldn’t be satisfied doing anything else.

YES! DEbussey could not agree more (Debussey was only making an example, and never did a value judgement about if it = really worth it. That = up to the individual). That complete obsession where your field is the first thing you think about in the morning and the last thing you think about before you get to bed can not be described. You practically think about it all the time.

And you know that regardless of what, if you were to just "slack off" and not feel the pressure and the exaustion that is often felt, you'd never ever be satisfied, and you'd have that nagging voice of regret in the back of your mind every second for the rest of your life.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #56 on: May 08, 2009, 02:11:16 AM »
My cock is naturally hard.
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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #57 on: May 08, 2009, 02:15:27 AM »
YES! DEbussey could not agree more (Debussey was only making an example, and never did a value judgement about if it = really worth it. That = up to the individual). That complete obsession where your field is the first thing you think about in the morning and the last thing you think about before you get to bed can not be described. You practically think about it all the time.

And you know that regardless of what, if you were to just "slack off" and not feel the pressure and the exaustion that is often felt, you'd never ever be satisfied, and you'd have that nagging voice of regret in the back of your mind every second for the rest of your life.

Sperms001 knows his shit 8)

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #58 on: May 08, 2009, 02:15:39 AM »
YES! DEbussey could not agree more (Debussey was only making an example, and never did a value judgement about if it = really worth it. That = up to the individual). That complete obsession where your field is the first thing you think about in the morning and the last thing you think about before you get to bed can not be described. You practically think about it all the time.

And you know that regardless of what, if you were to just "slack off" and not feel the pressure and the exaustion that is often felt, you'd never ever be satisfied, and you'd have that nagging voice of regret in the back of your mind every second for the rest of your life.

Sperms001 knows his shit 8)

Aren't you a little over dramatic there stud?

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #59 on: May 08, 2009, 02:21:28 AM »
Aren't you a little over dramatic there stud?

No.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #60 on: May 08, 2009, 02:28:28 AM »
No.

What's your field of excellence?

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #61 on: May 08, 2009, 02:28:54 AM »
And you know that regardless of what, if you were to just "slack off" and not feel the pressure and the exaustion that is often felt, you'd never ever be satisfied, and you'd have that nagging voice of regret in the back of your mind every second for the rest of your life.

slack off? that’s not an option.. there literally isn’t enough time in a life span for that… not slacking in any real way.

If you have the desire-passion-obsession-NEED to do all that you’re capable of.. you pretty much understand that you do not have enough time rest in your life.. to get it done.

mental breaks – yes. but anyone who wants to do something great.. has no desire to *slack off* at all.. I wouldn’t think.

there are much more important things to do.

because great shit.. tends to take all of your time.

these days with my painting.. I paint most of my waking hours.. and have no life at all outside of the studio – none.. its simply a necessity. the work to be done is mind boggling... and I will tackle it fearlessly.

but I’m attempting to do something outside and above anything I’ve done before.. by far. why would this desire hit me late in life? it is all I can think about.. and its all I want.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #62 on: May 08, 2009, 02:29:35 AM »
What's your field of excellence?


This is Duck: I am now wearing my ballerina dress. :-*

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2009, 02:30:25 AM »
slack off? that’s not an option.. there literally isn’t enough time in a life span for that… not slacking in any real way.

If you have the desire-passion-obsession-NEED to do all that you’re capable of.. you pretty much understand that you do not have enough time rest in your life.. to get it done.

mental breaks – yes. but anyone who wants to do something great.. has no desire to *slack off* at all.. I wouldn’t think.

there are much more important things to do.

because great shit.. tends to take all of your time.

these days with my painting.. I paint most of my waking hours.. and have no life at all outside of the studio – none.. its simply a necessity. the work to be done is mind boggling... and I will tackle it fearlessly.

but I’m attempting to do something outside and above anything I’ve done before.. by far. why would this desire hit me late in life? it is all I can think about.. and its all I want.



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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2009, 02:32:49 AM »
This is Duck: I am now wearing my ballerina dress. :-*

Haha, your mask is holding up great today.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2009, 02:36:03 AM »
Duck my love.


This is Duck: I used to dream about being a dancer when I was a kid. Sometimes I like to get spanked while wearing my old ballerina dress.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2009, 02:44:37 AM »

This is Duck: I used to dream about being a dancer when I was a kid. Sometimes I like to get spanked while wearing my old ballerina dress.

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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2009, 02:49:50 AM »
Aren't you a little over dramatic there stud?

I hear you...
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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2009, 04:58:31 AM »
haha..17.59999999..18" some day in your face bitches..and as natural as not washing your hands after taking a piss.
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Re: Natural Getbiggers who scream really loud about being natural...
« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2009, 11:10:09 AM »
You ever find it suspicious that so many naturals are SO vocal about with sayings like: 18" arms, NATURAL, blah blah weight and bf%, NATURAL....I have done so much, NATURAL, SCREW JUICERS...

Why be SO vocal about it, what's the point? ???

there are very few natural bodybuilders and they stand 5'11 165 lb ,,,5'10 165 lb ,,few can be 6'2 190-200lb lb 6-7 %that ratio,, thats bout it

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