Whats your excuse?

[wavelength]

I make a living with food. I train so I don't weigh 1000 lbs. If I earned my money with my looks then I'd be conditioned. Not an excuse but the truth. A Chef has to taste everything they cook. How do I get around it?

No chef ever got fat by "tasting" food.

[McFarland]

Controlled studies show that total intake determines body weight, so I don't think science supports that statement.
Maybe you just had an easier time overeating on more calorie dense food?

yes total intake determines body weight

but the activity determines muscle weight

so obviously wavelength has got his acitivity and calories in perfect zen  

all hed have to do is increase cals slightly and do 4 more extra sets for superior mass

[wavelength]

yes total intake determines body weight

but the activity determines muscle weight

so obviously wavelength has got his acitivity and calories in perfect zen  

all hed have to do is increase cals slightly and do 4 more extra sets for superior mass

Activity + protein determines muscle weight I would say.
It's true, my current weight is pathetic, even for my genetics. I'm gonna bulk as soon as my injury is healed.

[McFarland]

Activity + protein determines muscle weight I would say.
It's true, my current weight is pathetic, even for my genetics. I'm gonna bulk as soon as my injury is healed.

interesting but you do realize calories excluding protien calories go to muscleweight as well dont you? thus rendering your assumption false

[wavelength]

interesting but you do realize calories excluding protien calories go to muscleweight as well dont you? thus rendering your assumption false

It's not a linear formula but a certain minimum amount of protein is needed, that's what I was getting at.
Activity + a diet with zero protein will probably not provide muscle gains.

[evandatp]

i just ate an entire pizza hut panourmous all by myself

j rod hasn't eaten pizza in 4 years, being ripped isn't worth the sacrifice

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Looks like Levrone avoided another dinner date with Earl.

[McFarland]

It's not a linear formula but a certain minimum amount of protein is needed, that's what I was getting at.
Activity + a diet with zero protein will probably not provide muscle gains.

that is a bold statement even with 20 grams of protien and alot of other calories you can still grow or maintain good strength levels

this is an interesting topic since carbs and fats are the primary feul sources and not protien

if you give the body only protien the body will adjust its metabolism to be a protien burner wich is not good, you would have lower thyroid output

yes protien stimulates thryroid  but an all protien diet even high protien < not as good as fat and carbs for muscle sustenance

[wavelength]

that is a bold statement even with 20 grams of protien and alot of other calories you can still grow or maintain good strength levels

this is an interesting topic since carbs and fats are the primary feul sources and not protien

if you give the body only protien the body will adjust its metabolism to be a protien burner wich is not good, you would have lower thyroid output

yes protien stimulates thryroid  but an all protien diet even high protien < not as good as fat and carbs for muscle sustenance

Well that doesn't really go against my statement.
I have witnessed body composition getting worse on protein less than 0.5g / lb LBM though.

Any studies on body composition that show that as little as 20g is sufficient for optimal muscle gains / preservation? I would be interested.

[Deicide]

I blame pot and genetics.

[CastIron]

What's Your Excuse?

I don’t have time.

I’m so uncoordinated, I couldn’t possibly do that.

I did it once and it hurt.

I don’t have the money to spend on a club or gym membership.

I get bored.

I don’t like doing it alone.

[Earl1972]

Looks like Levrone avoided another dinner date with Earl.

yeah your sister took his place

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[Pete Nice]

great thread right here, with some real honest thoughts and opinions...

[Pete Nice]

Jeff, how much do you know about the hormones that drive our appetite, cravings and feelings of satiety?  Getting shredded requires that you go against your bodies natural tendencies.  It can be done for a period of time, but eventually, your body's biology wins out and forces you to eat what it craves...regardless of will power.  It's like going underwater.  You can only hold your breath for so long before you have to come up for air.

Anything of substance that adds to this?

This may be where Wavelegth has things down pat...

In regards to only being able to eat clean for a certain period of time, for some it may be beneficial to use the "Wavelength/Adonis" principles 2 or 3 days out of a week just to reduce the 'craving' factor while still keeping calories in check.  Thus, enabling someone to maintain or continue dropping bodyfat due to low caloric levels.  Using this method would essentially be utilizing the best of both worlds.

[MindSpin]

Anything of substance that adds to this?

This may be where Wavelegth has things down pat...

In regards to only being able to eat clean for a certain period of time, for some it may be beneficial to use the "Wavelength/Adonis" principles 2 or 3 days out of a week just to reduce the 'craving' factor while still keeping calories in check.  Thus, enabling someone to maintain or continue dropping bodyfat due to low caloric levels.  Using this method would essentially be utilizing the best of both worlds.

I have three separate eating phases over the course of the year.  1) eating pretty much eat anything I want, 2) eating very clean, nutrient dense super foods and 3) low carb/high protein/moderate fat. 

Phase 1 is when I'm not too engaged in my training and more focused on other stuff. I'm in the gym 3-4x week and even take several weeks off.  This past year I took all of Jan & Feb off.  Phase 2 is when I'm focused on improving my health.  I train with weights 3-4x week, do a lot of conditioning & some yoga.  Phase 3 is when I feel the need to put on size and lean out.  I train 4x week with weights and do cardio 5-7x week.

My weight fluctuates throughout the year from as low as 190lbs to as high as 215lbs.  Usually at 215 I'm a lot leaner than at 190 becasue that's when I'm training for getting bigger/leaner. 

[wavelength]

Anything of substance that adds to this?

This may be where Wavelegth has things down pat...

In regards to only being able to eat clean for a certain period of time, for some it may be beneficial to use the "Wavelength/Adonis" principles 2 or 3 days out of a week just to reduce the 'craving' factor while still keeping calories in check.  Thus, enabling someone to maintain or continue dropping bodyfat due to low caloric levels.  Using this method would essentially be utilizing the best of both worlds.

Exactly, the point is to make the diet as convenient as possible without sacrificing body composition. The only difference between the principles and a conventional bodybuilding diet is that the principles get rid of unnecessary restrictions.

You can use them every day of course, not just 2 or 3 days a week. I have absolutely no problem being on a caloric deficit for as long as I want. I've been in deficit for 5 months now and I feel great.

[The True Adonis]

I have three separate eating phases over the course of the year.  1) eating pretty much eat anything I want, 2) eating very clean, nutrient dense super foods and 3) low carb/high protein/moderate fat. 

Phase 1 is when I'm not too engaged in my training and more focused on other stuff. I'm in the gym 3-4x week and even take several weeks off.  This past year I took all of Jan & Feb off.  Phase 2 is when I'm focused on improving my health.  I train with weights 3-4x week, do a lot of conditioning & some yoga.  Phase 3 is when I feel the need to put on size and lean out.  I train 4x week with weights and do cardio 5-7x week.

My weight fluctuates throughout the year from as low as 190lbs to as high as 215lbs.  Usually at 215 I'm a lot leaner than at 190 becasue that's when I'm training for getting bigger/leaner. 

Oh, so you have no phase where you eat anything you want and meet your goals to get ripped.  I see you have NEVER tried it.

[Pete Nice]

Exactly, the point is to make the diet as convenient as possible without sacrificing body composition. The only difference between the principles and a conventional bodybuilding diet is that the principles get rid of unnecessary restrictions.

You can use them every day of course, not just 2 or 3 days a week. I have absolutely no problem being on a caloric deficit for as long as I want. I've been in deficit for 5 months now and I feel great.

How do you feel about your diet in regards to 'overall health' in the future?

[The True Adonis]

How do you feel about your diet in regards to 'overall health' in the future?

Why would it be any different or worse? 

[Pete Nice]

Why would it be any different or worse? 

Good point...I guess if it does what you claim in regards to body composition it really wouldn't matter, or make any difference?


Adonis,  how many meals do you average a day, or does it vary?

Do you think it matters whether or not you skip a morning breakfast?

[wavelength]

How do you feel about your diet in regards to 'overall health' in the future?

Bro-science is as prevalent regarding health issues as it is for body composition. Expert opinions on optimal health vary a lot. I just strive for maximum food variety. IMO, the mental component of eating whatever I like counters all minor deficiencies I might be having. Although I doubt that there are any.

[Deicide]

Bro-science is as prevalent regarding health issues as it is for body composition. Expert opinions on optimal health vary a lot. I just strive for maximum food variety. IMO, the mental component of eating whatever I like counters all minor deficiencies I might be having. Although I doubt that there are any.

[MindSpin]

Oh, so you have no phase where you eat anything you want and meet your goals to get ripped.  I see you have NEVER tried it.

I do have a phase when I eat anything I want, but instead of getting "ripped" I get fat.  Explain that genius....

[wavelength]

I do have a phase when I eat anything I want, but instead of getting "ripped" I get fat.  Explain that genius....

You ate too much.

[dr.chimps]

I do have a phase when I eat anything I want, but instead of getting "ripped" I get fat.  Explain that genius....

Well, that's because you're not consuming less than your daily BMI. It's too simple!  

[wavelength]

Funny thing is what is common knowledge on other, much bigger boards still seems to be a great revelation on getbig.