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Re: Evangelical Christians agree with torture...
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2009, 07:02:22 AM »
A survey conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that white evangelical Christians are more likely to support torture than people who rarely or never attend religious services.

The survey said that 62 percent of white evangelical Protestants say that the use of torture against suspected terrorists can be often or sometimes justified in order to gain important information.

When asked the same question, 40 percent of the "religiously unaffiliated" say torture can be often or sometimes justified.

This is for Bezerk Fury and all his Muslim hating threads.  If this were a Muslim survey you'd be all over it but crickets when it's a christian one.  Some balanced view you have there. 

What's this have to do with me? I'm an atheist. All religions are fucked up. The only difference between the rest of them and Islam is that there aren't millions of Christians/Jews/Buddhists running around chopping peoples heads off and blowing shit up for happening to be from the West. They aren't constantly blowing shit up because some book says to. Most of them have moved past that point. Meanwhile, thousands of Muslim clerics around the world are telling their millions of followers to go out and fuck shit up.

There aren't dozens of videos on the internet of Christians beheading people. Ever see the video of the Japanese contractor who got beheaded in Iraq? They decided they would cut halfway through his neck and then let him sit there for 20 seconds suffocating on his own blood before finishing the job. They are ANIMALS. Yet I'm supposed to feel bad when they simulate drowning on one of these guys, fully intending to make sure he lives through it? You people really need to watch some of these videos as you have no clue. ::)

People can cry about morals all the want, but in the end, they don't mean shit. You do what you need to do to ensure the survival of your citizens. I couldn't care less about whether waterboarding is torture or not. I care about its effectiveness. If it's not effective (which signs point to this being the case), then there is no point in doing it.

If Christians were running around pulling this shit all the time, I'd be pissed at them too. As it stands, they aren't.

For example, here's a list of Islamic extremist attacks in just the last 10 days. TEN DAYS!!!!!!!!! How many more have gone unreported in that time span? Look at all the women, children and innocent people killed. Notice the majority of dead are civilians.

2009.05.22     Israel     Qaryut     1     0     al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade takes credit for shooting a Jewish settler in the back.
2009.05.22    Pakistan    Peshawar    10    75    Ten people are killed when religious fundamentalists detonate one of their own outside a cinema.
2009.05.21    Philippines    Zamboanga    3    5    Islamists are suspected in the brutal ambush of a civilian vehicle that leaves three dead.
2009.05.21    Iraq    Mosul    2    1    Suspected Sunni extremists storm a home and kill a woman and her daughter.
2009.05.21    Iraq    Kirkuk    8    7    Eight Iraqis are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.05.21    Pakistan    Jandola    9    25    A Holy Warrior detonates himself near a bazaar, killing nine people.
2009.05.20    Algeria    Medea    5    1    Five local policemen are killed in an ambush by armed Islamic fundamentalists.
2009.05.20    Thailand    Pattani    2    0    Two elderly women are shot off their motorbike, then set on fire by Muslim militants.
2009.05.20    Afghanistan    Kabul    2    0    Two Americans are murdered in a Mujahideen bombing.
2009.05.20    Iraq    Baghdad    40    83    Sunni bomber take out at least forty Shias with a car bomb near a packed restaurant.
2009.05.20    Somalia    Mogadishu    3    0    A 6-year-old child sleeping in his home is among three civilains murdered in an Islamic attack.
2009.05.19    Thailand    Yala    1    0    Three Mujahideen murder an elementary school teacher.
2009.05.19    Thailand    Pattani    2    0    Islamists ambush and kill two rangers.
2009.05.19    Iraq    Taji    2    5    Terrorists kill two Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
2009.05.18    Pakistan    Mohmand    2    0    Two hostages held by the Tehrik-e-Taliban are executed and left by a roadside.
2009.05.18    Philippines    Basilan    1    0    The beheaded body of a 61-year-old Christian farmer is found following his abduction by Islamic militants.
2009.05.18    Afghanistan    Kandahar    1    0    A Taliban machine-gun attack leaves one person dead.
2009.05.18    Thailand    Narathiwat    1    0    A 39-year-old civilian is gunned down by Muslim terrorists while on his way to play soccer.
2009.05.17    Iraq    Baghdad    4    10    Four innocents are blown up at a coffee shop by Religion of Peace bombers.
2009.05.17    Afghanistan    Helmand    6    0    Six local police are murdered in a Sunni bomb attack.
2009.05.17    Iraq    Mosul    9    3    Nine Iraqis are taken down by Islamic terrorists.
2009.05.16    Chechnya    Grozny    4    5    Four people are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.05.16    Pakistan    Peshawar    11    31    Women and children are among those murdered when Islamists bomb a commercial district near an Internet cafe.
2009.05.16    Iraq    Baghdad    1    2    A child is killed when Muslim terrorists lob a mortar into a family home.
2009.05.16    Iraq    Baghdad    4    12    Jihad bombers take our four Iraqis in two attacks.
2009.05.15    Iraq    Mandali    1    0    A young woman is the victim of a suspected honor killing.
2009.05.15    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    A Christian is kidnapped and beheaded.
2009.05.15    Afghanistan    Khost    3    4    Sunni terrorists strike a mosque with a rocket, killing three civilians.
2009.05.15    India    Kupwara    2    0    Mujahideen shoot two civilians to death in their home.
2009.05.15    India    Kupwara    1    0    A park ranger is kidnapped and beheaded by Islamic extremists.
2009.05.14    Pakistan    Miranshah    3    4    Three local soldiers are murdered by Taliban roadside bombers.
2009.05.14    Iraq    Baqubah    3    0    al-Qaeda gunmen shoot two men and their mother to death inside their home.
2009.05.14    Somalia    Mogadishu    26    98    Twenty-six civilians are killed in a series of street battles as al-Shabaab Islamists fight for Allah.
2009.05.14    Afghanistan    Ghazni    1    1    A Taliban attack leaves a security guard dead.
2009.05.13    Pakistan    Mingora    5    0    Five more people are beheaded by Sunni radicals.
2009.05.13    Iraq    Baghdad    3    1    A young boy is among three Iraqis murdered by Mujahid gunmen.
2009.05.13    Chechnya    Vedeno    3    0    Islamic bombers take out three people.
2009.05.12    Afghanistan    Khost    7    13    Four religious extremists blow themselves up, killing seven laborers.
2009.05.12    Pal. Auth.    Ramallah    1    0    A 30-year-old woman, and mother of seven, is stabbed to death by her nephew in an honor killing.
2009.05.12    Pakistan    Nishat Chowk    1    0    The Taliban murder a rival mosque leader.
2009.05.12    Iraq    Kirkuk    7    18    A child suicide bomber, recruited by al-Qaeda, takes out seven Iraqis along a city street.
2009.05.12    Pakistan    Suhrab Khan    6    0    Islamists behead six people.
2009.05.12    Iraq    Baqubah    1    0    A 13-year-old girl is kidnapped and brutally murdered by al-Qaeda.
2009.05.12    Pakistan    Swat    7    0    Seven civilians are shot to death by the Taliban on suspicion betraying Islam.
2009.05.11    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    Muslim kidnappers murder a 5-year-old Christian boy.
2009.05.11    Iraq    Mosul    3    7    Three Iraqis are killed in two Mujahid bombings.
2009.05.11    Daghestan    Kizilyurt    1    3    A policeman is gunned down in a marketplace by suspected Islamic separatists.
2009.05.11    Pakistan    Peshawar    10    12    A 6-year-old girl is among ten locals massacred by a suicide car bomber.
2009.05.11    Somalia    Mogadishu    2    3    Islamists lob a mortar shell into a cafe, ending the lives of two patrons.
2009.05.10    Afghanistan    Helmand    7    20    Two suicide bombers take out seven civilians in an attack on a taxi stand.
2009.05.10    Afghanistan    Zabul    3    0    Three civilians are blown apart in a Jihad bombing.
2009.05.10    Somalia    Mogadishu    39    60    Islamists pour mortars and machine-gun fire into eliminating the 'enemies of Allah.' At least thirty-nine people are killed, including civilians at a mosque.
2009.05.10    Iraq    Taji    2    0    Suspected al-Qaeda kill two innocent Iraqis in a roadside attack.
2009.05.10    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    8    0    Eight construction crew workers are murdered in a Taliban bomb blast.

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Re: Evangelical Christians agree with torture...
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2009, 08:15:31 AM »
The left does it with your economic freedom which is just as important.

I never denied that but that is the reason I reject both equally and besides we only really have one party in the USA, to pretend otherwise would be a joke.
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Re: Evangelical Christians agree with torture...
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2009, 11:28:02 AM »
Is there a difference between a Christian and an "Evangelical Christian"? 

BTW, my pastor was preaching a sermon a couple months ago and said if waterboarding will save American lives, then "waterboard them!"  Loved it.   :)