Author Topic: Please answer this question, YES or NO... (Read 2481 times)

Hugo Chavez · « **on:** May 25, 2009, 02:13:15 AM »

Would you approve of any bill which included in its title "...Globalization Act" So I'm asking would you approve of a bill meant to coordinate our lives with the rest of the world for the main purpose of doing just that? I'm wondering what the point of being American is, if we have to do everything the same way as everyone else?

So yes or no?

drkaje · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2009, 03:14:53 AM »

Deicide · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2009, 03:35:36 AM »

Quote from: drkaje on May 25, 2009, 03:14:53 AM

No.

drkaje=truth+genetics=I agree

the_steevo_uk · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2009, 03:38:41 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on May 25, 2009, 02:13:15 AM

Would you approve of any bill which included in its title "...Globalization Act" So I'm asking would you approve of a bill meant to coordinate our lives with the rest of the world for the main purpose of doing just that? I'm wondering what the point of being American is, if we have to do everything the same way as everyone else?

So yes or no?

I dont see why americans are so scared of globalisation legislation since it was America that was globalisation's primary cause. All that talk about exporting American values has to a large extent been acted upon, too late to go back now, the world is already intertwined.

Deicide · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2009, 03:43:32 AM »

Quote from: the_steevo_uk on May 25, 2009, 03:38:41 AM

I dont see why americans are so scared of globalisation legislation since it was America'S ELITE AND SPERCIAL INTERESTS that was globalisation's primary cause. All that talk about exporting American values has to a large extent been acted upon, too late to go back now, the world is already intertwined.

FIXED

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2009, 03:51:27 AM »

Quote from: the_steevo_uk on May 25, 2009, 03:38:41 AM

I dont see why americans are so scared of globalisation legislation since it was America that was globalisation's primary cause. All that talk about exporting American values has to a large extent been acted upon, too late to go back now, the world is already intertwined.

about 10% right. The ball actually started rolling in Europe long ago. It's really not that relevant anyway... Kind ah silly to tell an entire population that they can't oppose what originated in their local. As far as to late, gee, isn't that always the case... What's ever the point of bucking the status quo.... The only thing that seems to ever win that battle is a 30 mile wide meteor strike.

the_steevo_uk · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2009, 04:22:19 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on May 25, 2009, 03:51:27 AM

about 10% right. The ball actually started rolling in Europe long ago. It's really not that relevant anyway... Kind ah silly to tell an entire population that they can't oppose what originated in their local. As far as to late, gee, isn't that always the case... What's ever the point of bucking the status quo.... The only thing that seems to ever win that battle is a 30 mile wide meteor strike.

I think my point is more that, the average Westerner has enjoyed the benefits of globalisation, primarily at other people's expense. All the cheap stuff we get in Wall Mart etc, our Nike Shoes, all comes from gloabalisation, meanwhile exporting things like McDonalds, Films, Technology to other nations.

We benefit so much from it, I dont see why people would actually want to buck the trend, they would lose far more than they would gain no?

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2009, 04:57:15 AM »

Quote from: the_steevo_uk on May 25, 2009, 04:22:19 AM

I think my point is more that, the average Westerner has enjoyed the benefits of globalisation, primarily at other people's expense. All the cheap stuff we get in Wall Mart etc, our Nike Shoes, all comes from gloabalisation, meanwhile exporting things like McDonalds, Films, Technology to other nations.

We benefit so much from it, I dont see why people would actually want to buck the trend, they would lose far more than they would gain no?

yea, but some of us have been yelling about in since day one. I'm one of those people. Not sure at what point I should have stopped yelling about it? I don't give a rats ass about losing that crap. There would also be much gain depending on how you look at things. I personally don't have any desire to benefit at the expense of culture and all that is diverse and unique in the world. I have no desire to force a country into a political system for the sole purpose that corporations can work within their system. on and on... It's all crap, selling your soul... no thanks...

Slapper · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2009, 04:58:53 AM »

(Fuck) no.

Hereford · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2009, 12:20:44 PM »

X2 for Slapper.

Anytime something 'global' is presented, it usually is not in the interests of the US.

Like that Kyoto Protocal deal. Us didn't sign and looked like one giant collective a-hole, but all doing so would have done is hamstring America, and do little to nothing to or for the rest of the world.

But Obama would have signed it probably....

the_steevo_uk · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:16:59 PM »

Quote from: Hereford on May 25, 2009, 12:20:44 PM

X2 for Slapper.

Anytime something 'global' is presented, it usually is not in the interests of the US.

Like that Kyoto Protocal deal. Us didn't sign and looked like one giant collective a-hole, but all doing so would have done is hamstring America, and do little to nothing to or for the rest of the world.

But Obama would have signed it probably....

but you would agree that some sort of global cooperation is needed on issues of the environment right? I think even most americans cant deny that some sort of cap on emissions would be beneficial for everyoe on the planet

headhuntersix · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:20:16 PM »

Um..no. Global warming is important to just 30% in most polls....70% of us have better things to do and bigger problems to worry about then some hysterical conspiracy based on shaky science. Further, guys like Gore stand to make a killing off of Cap and Trade.

the_steevo_uk · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:45:38 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on May 25, 2009, 01:20:16 PM

Um..no. Global warming is important to just 30% in most polls....70% of us have better things to do and bigger problems to worry about then some hysterical conspiracy based on shaky science. Further, guys like Gore stand to make a killing off of Cap and Trade.

funny that its only Americans that still say things like that...a shame really, you should be leading the world not looking out for yourseleves

drkaje · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:47:35 PM »

Quote from: the_steevo_uk on May 25, 2009, 03:38:41 AM

I dont see why americans are so scared of globalisation legislation since it was America that was globalisation's primary cause. All that talk about exporting American values has to a large extent been acted upon, too late to go back now, the world is already intertwined.

GLobalization presumes that American and foreign interests are intertwined, they are not.

OzmO · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2009, 02:05:10 PM »

SAMSON123 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2009, 02:15:17 PM »

YES...as it stands america has usurped many nations for ITS OWN SAKE. Maybe a taste of its own medicine will cure it of its ills.

The claim to SPREAD DEMOCRACY (globalization) is forcing other nations (at gun point) to accept the depraved value system of america...yet america somehow does not want to accept ANY of the value systems of other nations??? Maybe accepting some of the cultural practices of the Far East will result in longer healthier lives live they enjoy in the Far East; Accepting the cultural desire to be very educated like in INDIA will turn america from the land of IDIOTS to a place where the IQ is more in line with the worlds norm; maybe practicing family structure like on so many continents and countries like Africa, Middle East, South America (indigenous people), South Pacific will result in a imperceptible divorce rate as opposed to the 70 percent divorce rate in america. Seems america would have much to gain from GLOBALIZATION... no one loses their identity per se, but they adopt time proven traits that better the nation and people.

To say this to the average uneducated american strikes fear and terror as they believe it means and end to drug, care free sex, porn, excessive drinking, immature behavior, violence, etc etc and in many regards it does. Maybe once americans see what life should be and could be like they will let go of the ills that keep them and reduce them into the state they are presently in.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2009, 02:19:41 PM »

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #17 on:** May 25, 2009, 09:42:02 PM »

Food and Drug Administration Globalization Act of 2009
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h759/show

The True Adonis · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:15:18 PM »

Bindare_Dundat · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:41:59 PM »

No as it pertains to the question.

For globalization in general the answer is still no. The more you depend on other nations, the more their problems become your own.

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #20 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:47:53 PM »

Dos Equis · « **Reply #21 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:48:40 PM »

The title doesn't make the bill, but I wouldn't support a bill that had the sole purpose of requiring us to comply with some global standard.

camelisator · « **Reply #22 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:57:51 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on May 25, 2009, 10:15:18 PM

Yes.

AbsofuckinglyNOT.... But I can see how an antisocial communist like you would.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #23 on:** May 25, 2009, 11:32:36 PM »

Quote from: camelisator on May 25, 2009, 10:57:51 PM

AbsofuckinglyNOT.... But I can see how an antisocial communist like you would.

I am a Social Socialist. The TOTAL opposite.

24KT · « **Reply #24 on:** May 26, 2009, 03:55:29 AM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on May 25, 2009, 10:48:40 PM

The title doesn't make the bill

Bravo!

Who gives a poop what you call it, what is in it?!
When you start voting for or against a bill based on nothing more than the title,
you end up with such wonderful gems like The Patriot Act! {spit} That was a real winner wasn't it?