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Kiwiol is a huge Kiwi natural bastard with muscles. He has my vote for being the biggest natural dude here?What do you think?
biggest short height men= bast000 and bast 175biggest medium hight = johnny falcon
No way, not even close, lol - Groink=Juicer, Alex23=Juicer, Mesmorph=Juicer, Goudy and others are much bigger than me. Even at my heaviest, I was only around 220 lb and that was at around 15% bf .
No way, not even close, lol - Groink, Alex23, Mesmorph, Goudy and others are much bigger than me. Even at my heaviest, I was only around 220 lb and that was at around 15% bf .
The True Adonis=Juicer
The naivety here is overwhelming.
I hear you, but accusing someone of juicing when they claim natural status is a moot point - everyone's view is as good as the next person's and unless that person has something to gain out of it cause they are competing and / or trying to act like a guru, advising on things like dieting and lifting, I don't see the point on lying about natty status.
Which 'naturals' are suspicious to you?
QFT. Everyone on here at end of the bell curve of muscle building capability has been accused of flirting with the chemicals. It's a normal reflex to justify their lack of capabilities and gains. I believe kiwiol even though many will claim he has the "drugged" look (whatever that fucken means). I can relate, been accused for the last 12+ years; even before I started training regularly...
you=good genetics
None of the ones in my list. The only person whose natty claim I'd contest is Aquiles. I'm sure people are going to disagree, but as mentioned before, unless the claimed natty status is going to get them some kind of reward that they otherwise wouldn't get (like competing in a contest, for instance), I don't see why guys like Groink or Mesmorph78 would lie about it. And some of them, myself included, have been quite open about using rec drugs (in my case, Pot), so again, why make a big deal about juicing in a bodybuilding board especially when no one cares?