Sotomayor is a member of La Raza - ABA

[Soul Crusher]

you and I have responded to each other's post before......I remember you are from the Bronx as well.....what I find funny is that whites are always hitting people over the head with "every person should be based on the merits, not on race"...yet many whites have never practiced this and whenever a minority ascends to an important position they scream that the pick is racist and they worry about whether whites will get a fair shake with this person....yet there is no such worry when a white is in the same position....whites just assume that the white person is already fair-minded and doesn't have a racial agenda...while every minority is ready to put minorities over everyone else......this simply isn't true...see Clarence Thomas

I dont disagree.  However, there would be less focus on her race if this not the main thing Obama and her promoted for this pick in the first place.

For example - if you and me are in a dispute over a contract, would you care more about her judicial history and philosphy???  Or her race, favorite baseball team, or background???  For me, I want a judge who is known to be by the book, impartial, and able to divorce himself/herself from their personal beliefs on matters.  The court is not supposed to be an extension fo the legislative branch.    

Litigants before the court should have their cases based solely on the merits of their respective cases, not the personal agenda of the judge.  

She may be a great judge, however, tell me about her mertis as a judge, not the fact that she is a "latina".  

And by the way, there are many incompetent whites in positions solely because of their family connections and appeareance.  I get that and that is totally wrong too.  

I want competent people who can do the job and have demonstrated that ability without regard to the color of their skin.    

  

[240 is Back]

La Raza is a very aggressive and, at times, hateful organization that represents the rights of illegal immigrants in this country.

You're very wrong about la raza. 

They want:
Closed borders, total documentation of all illegals and immigrants, limited number of immigrants, and are ANTI-amnesty.

http://www.nclr.org/content/faqs/detail/43266/

[andreisdaman]

I dont disagree.  However, there would be less focus on her race if this not the main thing Obama and her promoted for this pick in the first place.

For example - if you and me are in a dispute over a contract, would you care more about her judicial history and philosphy???  Or her race, favorite baseball team, or background???  For me, I want a judge who is known to be by the book, impartial, and able to divorce himself/herself from their personal beliefs on matters.  The court is not supposed to be an extension fo the legislative branch.    

Litigants before the court should have their cases based solely on the merits of their respective cases, not the personal agenda of the judge.  

She may be a great judge, however, tell me about her mertis as a judge, not the fact that she is a "latina".  

And by the way, there are many incompetent whites in positions solely because of their family connections and appeareance.  I get that and that is totally wrong too.  

I want competent people who can do the job and have demonstrated that ability without regard to the color of their skin.    

  

I agree with you 100%.....there is a big deal about her being Hispanic....thats a positive thing...Hispanics and others are proud.....this will die down eventually and we will focus on her as a judge, period.....

There was a big commotion made by Irish catholics when John F. Kennedy was elected.....there was also a big commotion about Lieberman running with Al Gore for vice-prez because he is a Jew....

It is normal to celebrate when you see one of your own make it....especially as a minority because it's basically been drilled into us since we were children that certain positions in society were off-limits...

Don't become afraid or focus too much on this.....minorities are just as fair-minded as whites....Once they are in the job, they will do the job without bias...period

[24KT]

I am not trashing Obama's choice: Sotomayor, but I know he chose her merely because... and I know just like Albert Gonzalez she will do the bidding of her handlers who will make her as despicable as he was. BTW her BIO seems as PHONY as a 26 dollar bill...FISHY!!!
LaRAZA is a CIA operative...don't be fooled

$26 dollar bills are real, ...nothing phony about them, ...they're just marked as $50's & $100's.



Give it another coupla weeks... and you'll see...   

[24KT]

Oh please.  There are literally tens of millions of poor whites who dont get squat in this society either. If the formed a group like "The Race" and just advocated for poor whites, would you be ok with that?

What about focusing on all americans, as americans, not because of race?

That's a nice ideal isn't it? Infact, ...it's what both the Constitution & The Declaration of Independance call for.
Sadly, ...even 200 years afterwards, those ideals and promises had still failed to materialize... even 100 years after the prohibition of slavery these promises remained unkept and unfulfilled... hence the birth of the NAACP, the civil rights movement and organizations like La Raza. If you feel you have a problem with the existence of advocacy groups, ...recognize the advocacy group isn't the problem, ...but rather a symptom of the problem. The real problem is the systemic discrimination, and disregard for the issues affecting segments of society; issues these advocacy groups seek to address.

[loco]

Oh please.  There are literally tens of millions of poor whites who dont get squat in this society either.

Not because they have been oppressed and discriminated against by minorities.

And the whites who are wealthy and do have great jobs, have all of them always gotten those jobs on merits alone?

If the formed a group like "The Race" and just advocated for poor whites, would you be ok with that?

Yes, I would be okay with that if whites are being oppressed and discriminated against, and their voices are not being heard.  If that were the case, then they should form such advocacy group so that their voices are heard and so that others are made aware of this.

What about focusing on all americans, as americans, not because of race?

I agree!  That's the way it should have been from the beginning.  Had the white majority done this from the beginning, there would have never been a civil rights movement, there would be no Affirmative Action, and there wouldn't be groups like La Raza.

[24KT]

Not because they have been oppressed and discriminated against by minorities.

And the whites who are wealthy and do have great jobs, have all of them always gotten those jobs on merits alone?

Yes, I would be okay with that if whites are being oppressed and discriminated against, and their voices are not being heard.  If that were the case, then they should form such advocacy group so that their voices are heard and so that others are made aware of this.

I agree!  That's the way it should have been from the beginning.  Had the white majority done this from the beginning, there would have never been a civil rights movement, there would be no Affirmative Action, and there wouldn't be groups like La Raza.

OH MY GOSH!  It's happened...  Loco and I actually agree on something. 

[loco]

OH MY GOSH!  It's happened...  Loco and I actually agree on something. 

 

[Soul Crusher]

That's what you dont get, and what most minorities I have met mistakenly believe.  "Whites" are not a monolithic group of people who all think "white".  Its typical nonsense that I hear from blacks and hispanics all the time that makes me think they are just as much part of the problem as are racist whites.  The Italo-american from the Bronx like myself, has NOTHING in common with with the Mormon from UTAH.  I have far more in common with the Puerto Rican or Dominican from Washington Heights than I do a southern white guy from Alabama, despite my skin color. 

There is no such thing in America as a typical "white" person.  That only exists in the minds of minorities with their own set of racist stereotypes. 

For example - I am of Italo heritage.  Do you think WASPS from Greenwich or Jews from Scarsdale consider me just like them???  I get stereotyped in all the same ways you claim whites do to minorities.  No one is crying for me, and I dont want, expect, or like other people of my heritage whining like other groups over stereotypes.  Its embarassing. 

Instead, I prefer to be judged by my own accomplishments and doings and let that speak for itself.  This is why asians and indians get a ton of respect in this country, and deservedly so.  Asians dont cry like little whiny bitches over every little sterotype, they just move forward, advance, excel, and command respect for their actions and achievments.           

Do you even for a second think an italo-American from the Bronx is welcome at a WASP country club in Bronxville?  Do you think Russians, Albanians, Portugese, or other ethnic whites are included in these upper elite country clubs or social circles?  No, its not about skin color.     

Let me tell you something, I graduated law school top of my class, editor of the law review, and did all the right things.  I tried very hard to get into the elite law firms down NYC.  Most of these firms were run by WASPS & Jews.  Do you think I even got an interview despite my academic record?  No.   

I was unemployed for 9 months after law school and worked at Bally Total Fitness as a trainer until I had a shit job making $12.00 an hour until I eventually opened up my own business doing what I do now.  I was not going to let those miserable assholes determine my future and worth.  Looking back, I am glad I made the choices I did since I now call my own shots and am not told by anyone what or how to do my job. 

The issues in our society are more about wealth and social status, not race.  Those who are always focused on race dont understand that they are keeping themselves down by focusing on that instead of personal and individual advancement.
 
 



           

[24KT]

That's what you dont get, and what most minorities I have met mistakenly believe.  "Whites" are not a monolithic group of people who all think "white".  Its typical nonsense that I hear from blacks and hispanics all the time that makes me think they are just as much part of the problem as are racist whites.  The Italo-american from the Bronx like myself, has NOTHING in common with with the Mormon from UTAH.  I have far more in common with the Puerto Rican or Dominican from Washington Heights than I do a southern white guy from Alabama, despite my skin color. 

There is no such thing in America as a typical "white" person.  That only exists in the minds of minorities with their own set of racist stereotypes. 

For example - I am of Italo heritage.  Do you think WASPS from Greenwich or Jews from Scarsdale consider me just like them???  I get stereotyped in all the same ways you claim whites do to minorities.  No one is crying for me, and I dont want, expect, or like other people of my heritage whining like other groups over stereotypes.  Its embarassing. 

Instead, I prefer to be judged by my own accomplishments and doings and let that speak for itself.  This is why asians and indians get a ton of respect in this country, and deservedly so.  Asians dont cry like little whiny bitches over every little sterotype, they just move forward, advance, excel, and command respect for their actions and achievments.           

Do you even for a second think an italo-American from the Bronx is welcome at a WASP country club in Bronxville?  Do you think Russians, Albanians, Portugese, or other ethnic whites are included in these upper elite country clubs or social circles?  No, its not about skin color.     

Let me tell you something, I graduated law school top of my class, editor of the law review, and did all the right things.  I tried very hard to get into the elite law firms down NYC.  Most of these firms were run by WASPS & Jews.  Do you think I even got an interview despite my academic record?  No.   

I was unemployed for 9 months after law school and worked at Bally Total Fitness as a trainer until I had a shit job making $12.00 an hour until I eventually opened up my own business doing what I do now.  I was not going to let those miserable assholes determine my future and worth.  Looking back, I am glad I made the choices I did since I now call my own shots and am not told by anyone what or how to do my job. 

The issues in our society are more about wealth and social status, not race.  Those who are always focused on race dont understand that they are keeping themselves down by focusing on that instead of personal and individual advancement.
           

Do you think not gaining membership in some country club equates to being dragged down the street chained to the back of a pickup truck? ...or hung from a tree?

Yes, discrimination is frequently these days based on wealth & social status, ...however, you're forgetting the race & ethniticy often factor into the equation when it comes to wealth & social status.

[Soul Crusher]

Do you think not gaining membership in some country club equates to being dragged down the street chained to the back of a pickup truck? ...or hung from a tree?

Yes, discrimination is frequently these days based on wealth & social status, ...however, you're forgetting the race & ethniticy often factor into the equation when it comes to wealth & social status.

Thats funny considering Black on White violent crime is far more prevalent than White on Black crime.

Its not even close.   

[loco]

That's what you dont get, and what most minorities I have met mistakenly believe.  "Whites" are not a monolithic group of people who all think "white".  Its typical nonsense that I hear from blacks and hispanics all the time that makes me think they are just as much part of the problem as are racist whites.  The Italo-american from the Bronx like myself, has NOTHING in common with with the Mormon from UTAH.  I have far more in common with the Puerto Rican or Dominican from Washington Heights than I do a southern white guy from Alabama, despite my skin color. 

There is no such thing in America as a typical "white" person.  That only exists in the minds of minorities with their own set of racist stereotypes. 

For example - I am of Italo heritage.  Do you think WASPS from Greenwich or Jews from Scarsdale consider me just like them???  I get stereotyped in all the same ways you claim whites do to minorities.  No one is crying for me, and I dont want, expect, or like other people of my heritage whining like other groups over stereotypes.  Its embarassing. 

Instead, I prefer to be judged by my own accomplishments and doings and let that speak for itself.  This is why asians and indians get a ton of respect in this country, and deservedly so.  Asians dont cry like little whiny bitches over every little sterotype, they just move forward, advance, excel, and command respect for their actions and achievments.           

Do you even for a second think an italo-American from the Bronx is welcome at a WASP country club in Bronxville?  Do you think Russians, Albanians, Portugese, or other ethnic whites are included in these upper elite country clubs or social circles?  No, its not about skin color.     

Let me tell you something, I graduated law school top of my class, editor of the law review, and did all the right things.  I tried very hard to get into the elite law firms down NYC.  Most of these firms were run by WASPS & Jews.  Do you think I even got an interview despite my academic record?  No.   

I was unemployed for 9 months after law school and worked at Bally Total Fitness as a trainer until I had a shit job making $12.00 an hour until I eventually opened up my own business doing what I do now.  I was not going to let those miserable assholes determine my future and worth.  Looking back, I am glad I made the choices I did since I now call my own shots and am not told by anyone what or how to do my job. 

The issues in our society are more about wealth and social status, not race.  Those who are always focused on race dont understand that they are keeping themselves down by focusing on that instead of personal and individual advancement.           

You are making the exact same mistake that you assume that I and that "blacks and hispanics" are making.  I never said that you are racist or that you oppress or discriminate against minorities.  I am not lumping all white skinned people together in one group.  But you seem to be doing just that with me.

What I'm referring to is the fact that white people in America used to own black slaves for many years. 

After slavery, white people in American would not allow blacks to vote or to attend the same university that whites attended. 

I am referring to the fact that many whites who are NOT racist, still reap the benefits of being white in the US because they will not get discriminated against by other whites who maybe racist. 

I already proved in another thread how some large companies in the US have been found to be racist against minorities, Merrill Lynch, SunTrust, Cracker Barrel.  We are not talking about a few people within these companies being racist.  We are talking about widespread racism coming from the top all over these companies.  And we are not talking 60 years ago, but TODAY.  Whether or not you are racist, as long as you are white, you would not have been a victim of racism in any of these companies.
 
As for your argument that Asians and Indians don't "bitch" about this like blacks and Hispanics do...first of all, Hispanics in the US have suffered more oppression than Asians and Indians.  Blacks in the US have suffered much more then Hispanics.  Have you ever read or heard of the "Mexican Repatriation" in the US during the Great Depression?
 
"Tens of thousands, and possibly more than 400,000, Mexicans and Mexican-Americans were pressured — through raids and job denials — to leave the USA during the Depression, according to a USA TODAY review of documents and interviews with historians and deportees. Many, mostly children, were U.S. citizens."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-04-1930s-deportees-cover_x.htm
 
Are you suggesting that blacks and Hispanics should have never "bitched" about being oppressed and discriminated against?

These are all facts of US past and recent history that you can't deny.  And it has nothing to do with whether or not you are racist.
 
I understand why you don't like Affirmative Action and groups like La Raza, but these things were indirectly created by racist whites in America.  Had they not oppressed and discriminated against minorities, these things would not exist.

[Soul Crusher]

What I am saying is that hispanics and blacks, who have far less graduation rates than all other groups, higher violent crime convictions, higher unwed pregnancy, and other issues like this than other groups focus on self betterment than the white boogie man under the bed. 

If you want to stay focused on things of a few hundred years ago, fine, thats your perogative.  However, that will not get you a better job, better job skills, opportunities and advancement. 

 

[loco]

What I am saying is that hispanics and blacks, who have far less graduation rates than all other groups, higher violent crime convictions, higher unwed pregnancy, and other issues like this than other groups focus on self betterment than the white boogie man under the bed.

You are still lumping all black and Hispanic people together in one group.  There are plenty of blacks and Hispanics in the US who are educated, hard working and have no criminal record.

"The Venezuelan American population is highly educated. Its members have bachelor's, graduate, and professional degrees at nearly double (48.5%) the total national percentage (27%), while only 6% of the group's adults did not complete high school, compared to 15.9% of the total national population."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_American

United States
S0201. Selected Population Profile in the United States 
Population Group: Venezuelan
Data Set: 2006 American Community Survey
Survey: American Community Survey
factfinder.census.gov/servlet/IPTable?_bm=y&-context=ip&-reg=ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201:422;ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201PR:422;ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201T:422;ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201TP R:422&-qr_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201&-qr_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201PR&-qr_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201T&-qr_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_S0201TPR&-ds_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_&-tree_id=306&-redoLog=true&-geo_id=01000US&-geo_id=NBSP&-search_results=01000US&-format=&-_lang=en 

And let's not turn this into another blacks vs. white crime thread.  We all know most serial killers in the US seem to be white males.  And the "white boogie man" is not hiding under the bed.  He seems to be hiding and operating at Wall Street and at many banks and corporations.

If you want to stay focused on things of a few hundred years ago, fine, thats your perogative.  However, that will not get you a better job, better job skills, opportunities and advancement. 

A few hundred years ago?  Other than slavery, everything else that I mentioned is recent.  But I am not focused on this or making this my prerogative.  I am not a member of La Raza.  I was simply pointing out that I don't see anything wrong with advocacy groups like La Raza, given the treatment that minorities have received throughout US history.

Like I said, I understand why you don't like Affirmative Action and groups like La Raza, but these things were indirectly created by racist whites in America.  Had they not oppressed and discriminated against minorities, these things would not exist.

Hey, I don't like Hugo Chavez as president of Venezuela.  But I recognize that the poor in Venezuela were pushed to vote for and elect Hugo Chavez as president after years of being oppressed and exploited by the wealthy and the corrupt politicians.  Hugo Chavez is not the solution to poverty in Venezuela, but something had to be done.  Had the wealthy in Venezuela not oppressed and exploited the poor, Hugo Chavez probably wouldn't be president right now.

[Soul Crusher]

We are in America and there is one way to get ahead, hard work, perseverance, and dedication.  You know what, many times you have to take three steps back before taking steps forward.  It is reality and you either deal with it, or become victim to it.   

The govt is not going to do it.

Its up to you and you alone.   

[loco]

We are in America and there is one way to get ahead, hard work, perseverance, and dedication.  You know what, many times you have to take three steps back before taking steps forward.  It is reality and you either deal with it, or become victim to it.   

The govt is not going to do it.

Its up to you and you alone. 

Hard work, perseverance, and dedication did not help those minorities at Merrill Lynch, SunTrust and Cracker Barrel until the government investigated and busted those companies.  It did not help blacks before the civil rights movement. 

Laws need to be passed and enforced by the government to punish and to prevent oppression and discrimination.  And those laws don't seem to be passed or enforced until minorities "bitch" about it.

[Soul Crusher]

Hard work, perseverance, and dedication did not help those minorities at Merrill Lynch, SunTrust and Cracker Barrel until the government investigated and busted those companies.  It did not help blacks before the civil rights movement. 

Laws need to be passed and enforced by the government to punish and to prevent oppression and discrimination.  And those laws don't seem to be passed or enforced until minorities "bitch" about it.

we already have those laws on the books.  What law would you like passed that is already not on the books?

[loco]

we already have those laws on the books.  What law would you like passed that is already not on the books?

I was referring to those same laws.  They were not passed or were not enforced until people like MLK "bitched" about oppression and discrimination.

I am also talking about those large companies today not abiding by those laws, and some white people in those companies not participating, but also not doing anything about it, until minorities "bitched" about it.

Again, hard work, perseverance, and dedication did not help those minorities in the above cases.

[SAMSON123]

What I am saying is that hispanics and blacks, who have far less graduation rates than all other groups, higher violent crime convictions, higher unwed pregnancy, and other issues like this than other groups focus on self betterment than the white boogie man under the bed. 

If you want to stay focused on things of a few hundred years ago, fine, thats your perogative.  However, that will not get you a better job, better job skills, opportunities and advancement. 

 

JESUS 3 the more you talk the more ignorant you become. I was trying to read through this thread without saying anything, but your comments make that impossible. You are the typical ignorant white. having no sense of people, races or cultures and surely have not traveled much outside of that Italian ghetto you have lived in all of your life. For one thing Italian is NOT A RACE it is a nationality and sadly one of the most ignorant of groups of people in america. I hear so many times Italians say I am not white..REALLY?... then what are you?...YOU ARE CAUCASIAN JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE WHITES...

When it comes to VIOLENT CRIMES whites are still WAAAAAAAAAAAY out in front of EVERY other people both in america and in the world. Sadly what is done by the white run press is to EXAGERATE the incidences that occur in Black or Hispanic areas while crime and violence in white areas are down played...no mystery there. I am glad given  YOUTUBES and CAMERA PHONES etc a inside look into the violence of white communities is now on display before the world. With documentaries like UNTIED GATES OF AMERICA, BORN RICH and the like, EVERYONE now knows what is really happening in your communities. Even young white children and teens are now speaking up about the crime, violence, drugs, alcohol, sexual deviance etc in white communities. There is no argument you can make disputing any of these facts as they are practically MAINSTREAM now. Prisons in america are 40 percent white, 38 percent African Americans and Hispanics and the rest are other nationalities. Given the so called more intelligent/wealthy white communities WHY ARE SO MANY WHITES IN JAIL?? These numbers only reach to 40 percent for whites because the vast majority of white crimes go unreported and when reported the police intervention tries NOT to bring the parties to the precinct or file a report...as opposed to the African American and Hispanic population where the WHITE cop starts writing the report BEFORE he even gets to the scene. You can forget the WHITE dream of purity/supremacy/intelligence...IT HAS ALL BEEN ONE BIG LIE!!! Now the public see more whites being dragged into jail, more involved in drug crimes, more in domestic violence, more in poverty, more welfare/public assistance etc than ever. Up until recently unless a person was really on top of their research the LIE was pushed that the problem people where the African Americans...well now everyone knows it is the WHITES. With the collapsing economy, loss of jobs, etc these PROBLEMATIC whites are coming out of the woodwork like termites. I have posted too many time the facts and references to these facts on whites in regard to pregnancy, crime, gangs, drugs, domestic violence, alcohol etc etc etc and of course every white disputed it forever without presenting anything that proved other than what I presented. Right now america is in a depression CAUSED BY WHITE GREED...this is right after the CORPORATE SCANDAL (Enron , Alcatel, Tyco etc) in which TRILLIONS DISAPPEARED from america...which was right after the DOT COM SCANDAL where once again TRILLIONS DISAPPEARED from america...which again was after the S&L SCANDAL where TRILLIONS DISAPPEARED from america etc etc etc and guess what..WHEN THE FACES OF THESE CROOK BASTARDS WHERE DISPLAYED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE MUTHA FUCKAHS WERE WHITE...Not one Black, Hispanic or Asian etc. Now look at the past eight years with this fake terrorist attack and the fallout afterward...Iraq destroyed, 1.5 million killed in Iraq, 5 million sent into refugee status, Afghanistan bombed, God only knows how many killed there, TRILLIONS missing through the Pentagon and Department of Defense, Patriot ACT comes into being to destroy your america n way of life, etc etc etc and once again look at the faces of those who are responsible for it all..EVERY ONE OF THEM IS WHITE.

I think your problem 3 is you are a part of the WHITE PROBLEM and you wish not to be perceived as such so you keep looking to blame others for the violence of whites, the destructive behavior of whites, the LIES of whites and the easiest people to attack is the African American population in america because of the WHITE history of blaming them for so many centuries. Not to worry though..the economic collapse is bringing whites down to their basal levels and soon you will be fighting your white government and your white government will be kicking your ass royally. All I ask is that the Black, Hispanic and Asian poulation in america stay out of the fight and let whites battle whites as the white hard times and difficulties are just starting for your own and will get PAINFULLY WORST before it is all over....

[Stormspirit]

fact is, this filthy nasty white hating, inferiority complex having cunt was picked because she's hispanic, not because she's the most qualified.

[Soul Crusher]

JESUS 3 the more you talk the more ignorant you become. I was trying to read through this thread without saying anything, but your comments make that impossible. You are the typical ignorant white. having no sense of people, races or cultures and surely have not traveled much outside of that Italian ghetto you have lived in all of your life. For one thing Italian is NOT A RACE it is a nationality and sadly one of the most ignorant of groups of people in america. I hear so many times Italians say I am not white..REALLY?... then what are you?...YOU ARE CAUCASIAN JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE WHITES...

When it comes to VIOLENT CRIMES whites are still WAAAAAAAAAAAY out in front of EVERY other people both in america and in the world. Sadly what is done by the white run press is to EXAGERATE the incidences that occur in Black or Hispanic areas while crime and violence in white areas are down played...no mystery there. I am glad given  YOUTUBES and CAMERA PHONES etc a inside look into the violence of white communities is now on display before the world. With documentaries like UNTIED GATES OF AMERICA, BORN RICH and the like, EVERYONE now knows what is really happening in your communities. Even young white children and teens are now speaking up about the crime, violence, drugs, alcohol, sexual deviance etc in white communities. There is no argument you can make disputing any of these facts as they are practically MAINSTREAM now. Prisons in america are 40 percent white, 38 percent African Americans and Hispanics and the rest are other nationalities. Given the so called more intelligent/wealthy white communities WHY ARE SO MANY WHITES IN JAIL?? These numbers only reach to 40 percent for whites because the vast majority of white crimes go unreported and when reported the police intervention tries NOT to bring the parties to the precinct or file a report...as opposed to the African American and Hispanic population where the WHITE cop starts writing the report BEFORE he even gets to the scene. You can forget the WHITE dream of purity/supremacy/intelligence...IT HAS ALL BEEN ONE BIG LIE!!! Now the public see more whites being dragged into jail, more involved in drug crimes, more in domestic violence, more in poverty, more welfare/public assistance etc than ever. Up until recently unless a person was really on top of their research the LIE was pushed that the problem people where the African Americans...well now everyone knows it is the WHITES. With the collapsing economy, loss of jobs, etc these PROBLEMATIC whites are coming out of the woodwork like termites. I have posted too many time the facts and references to these facts on whites in regard to pregnancy, crime, gangs, drugs, domestic violence, alcohol etc etc etc and of course every white disputed it forever without presenting anything that proved other than what I presented. Right now america is in a depression CAUSED BY WHITE GREED...this is right after the CORPORATE SCANDAL (Enron , Alcatel, Tyco etc) in which TRILLIONS DISAPPEARED from america...which was right after the DOT COM SCANDAL where once again TRILLIONS DISAPPEARED from america...which again was after the S&L SCANDAL where TRILLIONS DISAPPEARED from america etc etc etc and guess what..WHEN THE FACES OF THESE CROOK BASTARDS WHERE DISPLAYED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE MUTHA FUCKAHS WERE WHITE...Not one Black, Hispanic or Asian etc. Now look at the past eight years with this fake terrorist attack and the fallout afterward...Iraq destroyed, 1.5 million killed in Iraq, 5 million sent into refugee status, Afghanistan bombed, God only knows how many killed there, TRILLIONS missing through the Pentagon and Department of Defense, Patriot ACT comes into being to destroy your america n way of life, etc etc etc and once again look at the faces of those who are responsible for it all..EVERY ONE OF THEM IS WHITE.

I think your problem 3 is you are a part of the WHITE PROBLEM and you wish not to be perceived as such so you keep looking to blame others for the violence of whites, the destructive behavior of whites, the LIES of whites and the easiest people to attack is the African American population in america because of the WHITE history of blaming them for so many centuries. Not to worry though..the economic collapse is bringing whites down to their basal levels and soon you will be fighting your white government and your white government will be kicking your ass royally. All I ask is that the Black, Hispanic and Asian poulation in america stay out of the fight and let whites battle whites as the white hard times and difficulties are just starting for your own and will get PAINFULLY WORST before it is all over....

Samson, I think you must have bi-polar disease.  sometimes you post great stuff that is coherhent, factual, logical, and decent.  Than, you post garbage like this.  The facts do not bear out your claims, but that is another story. 

My question to you is what is your solution?

Serious, you are so filled with anger and vengence that I want to know if Samson had his way what would he do?

You want to luagh, my best friend is puerto rican, and other close friends are greek, jewish, and itlians all from bronx, yonkers, queens, and brooklyn.  you know what, our social situation in life binds us, not our color.  These guys all come from the same type of situation as I do, and it has little to do with the color of our skin.

[24KT]

You are making the exact same mistake that you assume that I and that "blacks and hispanics" are making.  I never said that you are racist or that you oppress or discriminate against minorities.  I am not lumping all white skinned people together in one group.  But you seem to be doing just that with me.

What I'm referring to is the fact that white people in America used to own black slaves for many years. 

After slavery, white people in American would not allow blacks to vote or to attend the same university that whites attended. 

I am referring to the fact that many whites who are NOT racist, still reap the benefits of being white in the US because they will not get discriminated against by other whites who maybe racist. 

I already proved in another thread how some large companies in the US have been found to be racist against minorities, Merrill Lynch, SunTrust, Cracker Barrel.  We are not talking about a few people within these companies being racist.  We are talking about widespread racism coming from the top all over these companies.  And we are not talking 60 years ago, but TODAY.  Whether or not you are racist, as long as you are white, you would not have been a victim of racism in any of these companies.
 
As for your argument that Asians and Indians don't "bitch" about this like blacks and Hispanics do...first of all, Hispanics in the US have suffered more oppression than Asians and Indians.  Blacks in the US have suffered much more then Hispanics.  Have you ever read or heard of the "Mexican Repatriation" in the US during the Great Depression?
 
"Tens of thousands, and possibly more than 400,000, Mexicans and Mexican-Americans were pressured — through raids and job denials — to leave the USA during the Depression, according to a USA TODAY review of documents and interviews with historians and deportees. Many, mostly children, were U.S. citizens."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-04-1930s-deportees-cover_x.htm
 
Are you suggesting that blacks and Hispanics should have never "bitched" about being oppressed and discriminated against?

These are all facts of US past and recent history that you can't deny.  And it has nothing to do with whether or not you are racist.
 
I understand why you don't like Affirmative Action and groups like La Raza, but these things were indirectly created by racist whites in America.  Had they not oppressed and discriminated against minorities, these things would not exist.

This is the "white skin priviledge" to which I was refering a few years ago.
They didn't quite 'get it' then, ...or rather refused to admit to understanding the concept is probably more accurate.

[Soul Crusher]

While I cannot claim to feel like you do, I will tell you that even amongst white people, the same thing goes on within white ethnic groups. 

[Soul Crusher]

Here is another thing I dont get about you Samson, you rail about whites while at the same time expressing the importance of following the Bill of Rights, especially the first and second amendments.

You do realize and admit who crafted the Constitution right??  The same people you bash and trash here by the minute. 

What gives?

[loco]

Samson, I think you must have bi-polar disease. 

I'm beginning to think he does.