The pic of the kid that Rich2 posted - now that is definately someone who is juiced.
I am amazed that so many people think the first guy is juiced. Honestly, I had a similar (or better physique) than that when I was 17 (although I started training at 14), and a number of the guys I trained with had similar physiques.
Those guys who think he is juiced must have really lost all hope of making any decent gains naturally, which is pretty sad.