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What foreign aid given to the Palestinians? These people have been under constant bombardment from the joo and have spent way too much time building and re-building their cities. Not to mention dealing with embargoes, resource shortages and strife. Gimmie a break

They received 1 Billion dollars for signing the Oslo Accords. Where was that money spent? Weapons, because it sure as hell wasn't used to build roads or schools or factories.

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American foreign policy and World Bank has kept the Arabs from progressing at all despite selling oil to the whole world. With Israhell spending american taxpayers 33 BILLION dollars, of course they are going to flourish. Not to mention they are another financial tax haven for ill gotten money from corupt joo run american businesses and lets not forget the massive mineral and gold wealth they are stealing from Africa. If it were not for these things and america the joo would be in the same pathetic state as the Arabs.

What foreign aid given to the Palestinians? These people have been under constant bombardment from the joo and have spent way too much time building and re-building their cities. Not to mention dealing with embargoes, resource shortages and strife. Gimmie a break

Um..Arafat was a millionaire..lets start there. Do u wear arafat jeans...eat arafat burgers...drive an arafat car. Do u pump arafat gas into ur car..my guess is no. They got plenty of money from the bleeding hearts...and it all went to a fat gay guy wearing a kaffiya.
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I am very sure there was a bed and breakfast. Where do u get these delusional facts G....wow!

Just tryin' to make a point, brotha!

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You guys mean this Hamas, defenders of "Palestine"?

Hamas Converts 46 Ambulances To Military Vehicles, Misusing Humanitarian Aid       PDF        Print        E-mail
 
June 8, 2009
 Palestinian Media Watch
by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook  
PMW has documented the repeated use of foreign funding by both the PA and Hamas for terror and glorification of terror. The following is another case of well intended humanitarian assistance given to Palestinians that is appropriated for military or terror purposes:

        "The [Palestinian] Health Ministry stated yesterday that Hamas militias had raided 46 ambulances, donated by Arab states during the recent aggression on the Gaza Strip, of the medical equipment that they contained... and used them as military vehicles to arrest civilians, after painting [the ambulances] black.
        
        The Ministry's director of public relations and information, Dr. Omar Nasr... said that the medical equipment removed from the ambulances was expensive. He demanded that the Hamas militias declare, courageously and openly, what had become of the thousands of tons of medical equipment which had been brought into the Gaza Strip as assistance for the Palestinian people, and which had passed at its [Hamas's] orders to private warehouses and its own medical centers, and was later sold to the helpless citizen..."
        [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, May 20, 2009]




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Just tryin' to make a point, brotha!

Well we here at GETBIG expect that in order to post, u must have first hand knowledge of the subject, along with pics. And seeing as u have not slept in every BB in Palest...err Israel, I find that I must disregard the entire post, even if ur point was valid and scumbags like SAMSON have no comeback.  ;D
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Um..Arafat was a millionaire..lets start there. Do u wear arafat jeans...eat arafat burgers...drive an arafat car. Do u pump arafat gas into ur car..my guess is no. They got plenty of money from the bleeding hearts...and it all went to a fat gay guy wearing a kaffiya.

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Right on. The British and French divided it up with the Sykes Picot Agreement. Never a country/nation/bed and breakfast named Palestine. No govt. No army. No Palestinians. This shit is fantasy. The Arabs and Arafat created this whole mess when they created the Palestinian Movt. out of thin air for use as human artillery shells against the Jews.


You're right. Good points. The line between someone/some group you can feel empathy for changes once you cross that line.


Palestine was in existence when pretty much all of Europe didn't exist. Keep in mind the region has been called by different names but is still the same region/country. It was known as Cannan, Greater Israel, Greater Syria, Judea, Kingdon of Jerusalem and southern Syria. Nontheless when whites arrived the Palestinians were there and had been there for many centuries with NO JOO IN SIGHT. America created the so called nation of Israel as a home for the JOO inorder to get them out of Europe after the war. The fight beteen the joo and the Palestinians has been in effect since america and England pushed the PALESTINIANS out of their HOMELAND for the sake of the JOO, leaving the Palestinian destitute and homeless while american pumped money into the region building it up for the Joo. Then to add insult to injury the resources like water and electricity was put under the control of the joo so that they could control the Palestinians in the region.

You have a lot to learn
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Oh were u there...ur an idiot ok.....go play in traffic.
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Palestine was in existence when pretty much all of Europe didn't exist. Keep in mind the region has been called by different names but is still the same region/country. It was known as Cannan, Greater Israel, Greater Syria, Judea, Kingdon of Jerusalem and southern Syria. Nontheless when whites arrived the Palestinians were there and had been there for many centuries with NO JOO IN SIGHT. America created the so called nation of Israel as a home for the JOO inorder to get them out of Europe after the war. The fight beteen the joo and the Palestinians has been in effect since america and England pushed the PALESTINIANS out of their HOMELAND for the sake of the JOO, leaving the Palestinian destitute and homeless while american pumped money into the region building it up for the Joo. Then to add insult to injury the resources like water and electricity was put under the control of the joo so that they could control the Palestinians in the region.

You have a lot to learn

There were no such people that were called "Palestinians" get it through your fucking head. Show me a passport or immigration papers or SOMETHING. They were simply Arabs that lived in the region. After 1967 the "Palestinian" movement suddenly appeared on the scene. It was a good way to marshal indigenous troops from within the region so the Arab countries wouldn't have to waste anymore of their own soldiers, money and equipment to "fight" the Jews. And they weren't expelled for Christ sakes, Israel actually needed workers and such so they admitted a shit ton of Arabs in the region. Arabs and "Palestinians" IN Israel  actually have more freedom, more access to success and more involvement in the political process than they do compared to anywhere else in the Middle East.

Get a fucking clue.

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There were no such people that were called "Palestinians" get it through your fucking head. Show me a passport or immigration papers or SOMETHING. They were simply Arabs that lived in the region. After 1967 the "Palestinian" movement suddenly appeared on the scene. It was a good way to marshal indigenous troops from within the region so the Arab countries wouldn't have to waste anymore of their own soldiers, money and equipment to "fight" the Jews. And they weren't expelled for Christ sakes, Israel actually needed workers and such so they admitted a shit ton of Arabs in the region. Arabs and "Palestinians" IN Israel  actually have more freedom, more access to success and more involvement in the political process than they do compared to anywhere else in the Middle East.

Get a fucking clue.

I cant begin to tell you how many things are wrong with that statement...The arabs and arafat didnt just create Palestinian nationalism out of thin air, it existed since the beginning of the 20th century, all you have to do is go back and look at the newspapers.

You say that the Palestinian national movement suddenly appeared in 1967...the PLO was created in 1964!!! Not only that but Palestinian liberation groups existed way before the PLO (as did Jewish Groups before the creation of Israel) The izz al deen al kassam Army The Black Hand which existed in 1930 being just the most salient.

The Palestinian national movement grew in tandem with the Jewish national movement, many of the first Jewish settlers in Palestine noticed it happening, and wrote about it...(If you're a Jew then you should have already read Ah'ad Ha'am)

There was never an administrative division called Palestine, but neither was there one called Israel (unless you think the kingdom of Solomon counts?...even then it was a multiethnic society and not a 'jewish state' as we have now)...show me an Israeli passport, show me Israeli land deeds..thats right there were none.

So lets be clear about one thing, neither really has any claim over the other, to deny the existence of the other is pure and simple racism. Remember many Palestinians DO have Ottoman land deeds showing they are from the area, as do many Jews who bought the land from Palestinians. Today both Israelis and Palestinians have Passports to deny that the other exists, is to live in loony land.

This business about the Arabs not being expelled or leaving...come on, please, we all know about the open bridges policy that Israel adopted...are you honestly trying to say that Israel ADMITTED Arabs into the region, that is just a plain lie. Allowing Palestinian workers in to Israel provided they leave before 12am is not admitting Arabs, its giving them temporary work permits which can be removed at any time for no reason. If you think Israel wanted Arabs in the country Read about plan Dalet if you know Hebrew you will be able to see what that wonderful policy was all about...on top of that I have spoken to people from the Palmach who told me they were under orders to remove Palestinians from their villages in 1948, some agreed, some didnt. What we know is that those Palestinians who left were not allowed back...SOME AFTER BEING PROMISED they could return...the wonderful case of Al Biram where Palestinians were allowed to return and then the IDF desroyed the village...you can go on and on and on...The documentation is all there in front of your eyes in the Zionist archives, all you have to do is read it for yourself.

If you think Palestinians want a state for the sole purpose to kill Jews then you have never met a palestinian. There is not widespread support for Hamas, nor is there support for Fatah, seriously that doesnt take an expert to know that.

As for Israeli Arabs having more freedom...lets take MK effie eitam's wonderful statement 'we need to expel all of you arabs to gaza, you traitors dont belong here.' The small matter of only 5.6% of building permits between 2007-8 being granted for Israeli Arabs wishing to build new homes. The new laws demanding their loyalty to the state, or denying their right to publicly express their identity as Palestinian citizens of Israel.

I say all this as a STRONG supporter of Israel and the right to defend itself...I condemn Hamas, and any other racist terrorist that wants to kill Jews because they are Jews, and the Pals can really test my patience at times. But what I cant stand is people like you who spout your one sided Kach bullshit claiming that it's somehow the truth, it's not, as anyone who actually tries to understand both sides knows very well.

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I cant begin to tell you how many things are wrong with that statement...The arabs and arafat didnt just create Palestinian nationalism out of thin air, it existed since the beginning of the 20th century, all you have to do is go back and look at the newspapers.

You say that the Palestinian national movement suddenly appeared in 1967...the PLO was created in 1964!!! Not only that but Palestinian liberation groups existed way before the PLO (as did Jewish Groups before the creation of Israel) The izz al deen al kassam Army The Black Hand which existed in 1930 being just the most salient.

The Palestinian national movement grew in tandem with the Jewish national movement, many of the first Jewish settlers in Palestine noticed it happening, and wrote about it...(If you're a Jew then you should have already read Ah'ad Ha'am)

There was never an administrative division called Palestine, but neither was there one called Israel (unless you think the kingdom of Solomon counts?...even then it was a multiethnic society and not a 'jewish state' as we have now)...show me an Israeli passport, show me Israeli land deeds..thats right there were none.

So lets be clear about one thing, neither really has any claim over the other, to deny the existence of the other is pure and simple racism. Remember many Palestinians DO have Ottoman land deeds showing they are from the area, as do many Jews who bought the land from Palestinians. Today both Israelis and Palestinians have Passports to deny that the other exists, is to live in loony land.

This business about the Arabs not being expelled or leaving...come on, please, we all know about the open bridges policy that Israel adopted...are you honestly trying to say that Israel ADMITTED Arabs into the region, that is just a plain lie. Allowing Palestinian workers in to Israel provided they leave before 12am is not admitting Arabs, its giving them temporary work permits which can be removed at any time for no reason. If you think Israel wanted Arabs in the country Read about plan Dalet if you know Hebrew you will be able to see what that wonderful policy was all about...on top of that I have spoken to people from the Palmach who told me they were under orders to remove Palestinians from their villages in 1948, some agreed, some didnt. What we know is that those Palestinians who left were not allowed back...SOME AFTER BEING PROMISED they could return...the wonderful case of Al Biram where Palestinians were allowed to return and then the IDF desroyed the village...you can go on and on and on...The documentation is all there in front of your eyes in the Zionist archives, all you have to do is read it for yourself.

If you think Palestinians want a state for the sole purpose to kill Jews then you have never met a palestinian. There is not widespread support for Hamas, nor is there support for Fatah, seriously that doesnt take an expert to know that.

As for Israeli Arabs having more freedom...lets take MK effie eitam's wonderful statement 'we need to expel all of you arabs to gaza, you traitors dont belong here.' The small matter of only 5.6% of building permits between 2007-8 being granted for Israeli Arabs wishing to build new homes. The new laws demanding their loyalty to the state, or denying their right to publicly express their identity as Palestinian citizens of Israel.

I say all this as a STRONG supporter of Israel and the right to defend itself...I condemn Hamas, and any other racist terrorist that wants to kill Jews because they are Jews, and the Pals can really test my patience at times. But what I cant stand is people like you who spout your one sided Kach bullshit claiming that it's somehow the truth, it's not, as anyone who actually tries to understand both sides knows very well.

I love it when you make long posts; the BNP is a communist party. Look at their policies.
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I love it when you make long posts; the BNP is a communist party. Look at their policies.

Ha Ha! Id make longer posts if I could be bothered...but dealing with this crap 24/7 means that when i post on Getbig its more from rage accrued during the week than the desire for an academic debate.

As for the BNP i never really took the time to look at their policies, but I suppose it wouldnt be beyond the BNP to advocate some form of National Socialism...they got 900,000 votes...damn people must be either pissed off or desperate

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Ha Ha! Id make longer posts if I could be bothered...but dealing with this crap 24/7 means that when i post on Getbig its more from rage accrued during the week than the desire for an academic debate.

As for the BNP i never really took the time to look at their policies, but I suppose it wouldnt be beyond the BNP to advocate some form of National Socialism...they got 900,000 votes...damn people must be either pissed off or desperate

Yeah, it's sad but make no mistake, their desire to confiscate, redistribute, etc. smacks of communism.
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And how about their muslim brothers? Jordan...Egypt...hmm. They would rather the Palestinians go away.

Exactly...people don't realize that when Yasser Arafat first came to power his people were allowed refuge in Jordan.  Guess what happened?  They started blowing Jordan apart so the king of Jordan told the Palestinians to get out.  Very general history lesson folks, but you get the picture.  Wherever the Palestinians go they try blowing shit up.  Not cool in my book.

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I cant begin to tell you how many things are wrong with that statement...The arabs and arafat didnt just create Palestinian nationalism out of thin air, it existed since the beginning of the 20th century, all you have to do is go back and look at the newspapers.

You say that the Palestinian national movement suddenly appeared in 1967...the PLO was created in 1964!!! Not only that but Palestinian liberation groups existed way before the PLO (as did Jewish Groups before the creation of Israel) The izz al deen al kassam Army The Black Hand which existed in 1930 being just the most salient.

The Palestinian national movement grew in tandem with the Jewish national movement, many of the first Jewish settlers in Palestine noticed it happening, and wrote about it...(If you're a Jew then you should have already read Ah'ad Ha'am)

There was never an administrative division called Palestine, but neither was there one called Israel (unless you think the kingdom of Solomon counts?...even then it was a multiethnic society and not a 'jewish state' as we have now)...show me an Israeli passport, show me Israeli land deeds..thats right there were none.

So lets be clear about one thing, neither really has any claim over the other, to deny the existence of the other is pure and simple racism. Remember many Palestinians DO have Ottoman land deeds showing they are from the area, as do many Jews who bought the land from Palestinians. Today both Israelis and Palestinians have Passports to deny that the other exists, is to live in loony land.

This business about the Arabs not being expelled or leaving...come on, please, we all know about the open bridges policy that Israel adopted...are you honestly trying to say that Israel ADMITTED Arabs into the region, that is just a plain lie. Allowing Palestinian workers in to Israel provided they leave before 12am is not admitting Arabs, its giving them temporary work permits which can be removed at any time for no reason. If you think Israel wanted Arabs in the country Read about plan Dalet if you know Hebrew you will be able to see what that wonderful policy was all about...on top of that I have spoken to people from the Palmach who told me they were under orders to remove Palestinians from their villages in 1948, some agreed, some didnt. What we know is that those Palestinians who left were not allowed back...SOME AFTER BEING PROMISED they could return...the wonderful case of Al Biram where Palestinians were allowed to return and then the IDF desroyed the village...you can go on and on and on...The documentation is all there in front of your eyes in the Zionist archives, all you have to do is read it for yourself.

If you think Palestinians want a state for the sole purpose to kill Jews then you have never met a palestinian. There is not widespread support for Hamas, nor is there support for Fatah, seriously that doesnt take an expert to know that.

As for Israeli Arabs having more freedom...lets take MK effie eitam's wonderful statement 'we need to expel all of you arabs to gaza, you traitors dont belong here.' The small matter of only 5.6% of building permits between 2007-8 being granted for Israeli Arabs wishing to build new homes. The new laws demanding their loyalty to the state, or denying their right to publicly express their identity as Palestinian citizens of Israel.

I say all this as a STRONG supporter of Israel and the right to defend itself...I condemn Hamas, and any other racist terrorist that wants to kill Jews because they are Jews, and the Pals can really test my patience at times. But what I cant stand is people like you who spout your one sided Kach bullshit claiming that it's somehow the truth, it's not, as anyone who actually tries to understand both sides knows very well.

Alright, I'll take my whippin' like a man.

Good stuff. I didn't know about the work policy.

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There were no such people that were called "Palestinians" get it through your fucking head. Show me a passport or immigration papers or SOMETHING. They were simply Arabs that lived in the region. After 1967 the "Palestinian" movement suddenly appeared on the scene. It was a good way to marshal indigenous troops from within the region so the Arab countries wouldn't have to waste anymore of their own soldiers, money and equipment to "fight" the Jews. And they weren't expelled for Christ sakes, Israel actually needed workers and such so they admitted a shit ton of Arabs in the region. Arabs and "Palestinians" IN Israel  actually have more freedom, more access to success and more involvement in the political process than they do compared to anywhere else in the Middle East.

Get a fucking clue.

OH LAWWWWWD!!! I have a LIVE ONE HERE!!!!

Palestinians is a nationality...you know, like how you call yourself an american. BTW.. can you show me a passport, social security card, immigration papers, green card...SOMETHING that the Native People of america gave you to come into their country? THis would include your parents, grand parents, great grand parents etc. Prove you are an (eh hem) american? Becasue as it stands you are nothing more than a caucasian living in another man's land...like the joo

The Palestinians were fighting with america and the so called Joo as soon as america starting DISPLACING them from their homes under the gun and handing the area over to the Joo. Over time that sparked the development of groups to help in the fight to RECLAIM their homeland from the 'thieves". So developed the PLO, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH etc all to get rid of the Joo who has been a problem in the region since they were brought there. The Germans warned the world of the problem with these people, the Scandinavians REFUSED to allow them in to their nations, the AFRICANS said NO!!! and even america REJECTED THEM AT FIRST. Now every nation knows the reason for NOT letting them into their nation....THEY ARE A PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!
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OH LAWWWWWD!!! I have a LIVE ONE HERE!!!!

Palestinians is a nationality...you know, like how you call yourself an american. BTW.. can you show me a passport, social security card, immigration papers, green card...SOMETHING that the Native People of america gave you to come into their country? THis would include your parents, grand parents, great grand parents etc. Prove you are an (eh hem) american? Becasue as it stands you are nothing more than a caucasian living in another man's land...like the joo

The Palestinians were fighting with america and the so called Joo as soon as america starting DISPLACING them from their homes under the gun and handing the area over to the Joo. Over time that sparked the development of groups to help in the fight to RECLAIM their homeland from the 'thieves". So developed the PLO, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH etc all to get rid of the Joo who has been a problem in the region since they were brought there. The Germans warned the world of the problem with these people, the Scandinavians REFUSED to allow them in to their nations, the AFRICANS said NO!!! and even america REJECTED THEM AT FIRST. Now every nation knows the reason for NOT letting them into their nation....THEY ARE A PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!

Speaking of a "Live One"

I'm sure you approve of the Nazi's solution to the Jewish "Problem"?

Kill yourself.

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Alright, I'll take my whippin' like a man.

Good stuff. I didn't know about the work policy.


ha ha, no worries...fired up debate is all part of the fun and games that is Israel!

Oh btw Samson123...If you dont like Israel's policies then fine...but seriously you tread a fine line my friend, all these comments you keep making about Jews and Germany aint cool at all.  

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ha ha, no worries...fired up debate is all part of the fun and games that is Israel!

Oh btw Samson123...If you dont like Israel's policies then fine...but seriously you tread a fine line my friend, all these comments you keep making about Jews and Germany aint cool at all.  

Samson hates all white people. So, it's pretty normal for him.

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Speaking of a "Live One"

I'm sure you approve of the Nazi's solution to the Jewish "Problem"?

Kill yourself.

However did you guess?? Rest assured I am not alone in this desire.
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And thats way reaghead worthless pieces of shit like urself need to go eat a pistol. Why to bother posting here...nobody cares.
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ha ha, no worries...fired up debate is all part of the fun and games that is Israel!

Oh btw Samson123...If you dont like Israel's policies then fine...but seriously you tread a fine line my friend, all these comments you keep making about Jews and Germany aint cool at all.  

Is anything I said NOT TRUE?!?!?!?

Is there a BIAS on this board? Seems as long as whites are degrading Mexicans, Chinese, Koreans, Arabs, Africans etc it is alright. THe minute THE TRUTH is spoken of about joos there is a backlash...what's the problem?
 Maybe I should talk about the African Americans and how whites killed them to the tune of 120 MILLION and had millions in slavery or how about the Native People of america 70 MILLION DEAD and land STOLEN..would that make it better? Whose life is MORE IMPORTANT? How come MILLIONS were killed in Europe during WWI and WWII and yet the only people spoken of are the joos? I don't understand it. Whose life has more VALUE? and WHY? Plez' es'plain Lucy...
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And thats way reaghead worthless pieces of shit like urself need to go eat a pistol. Why to bother posting here...nobody cares.

I take a multivitamin with IRON in it...I don't need to eat pistols or bullets.
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However did you guess?? Rest assured I am not alone in this desire.

The Nazis didn't like black people either... ::)
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