Dorian Vs Jay ( Ronnie says Dorian is better )

[Immortal_Technique]

You could just as easily ask why Ronnie never beat Nasser et all at the Olympia until '98.

[Mars]

who gives a shit. post some pics of women instead.

posers.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you really have no clue do you?

its called understanding what people mean when they speak.

ronnie doesn't have to explicity say "the IFBB was giving gift wins to Mr. Olympias no matter how they looked back then" to understand that that is what he was referring to. everyone except you and your two bitches understand the comment. thats how english works. Its called alluding to something, without explicitly stating it..

you know, I poke fun at how you work with flowers, but man, when you act dumb, I think "no wonder"..

Oh so you're Ronnie's interpreter now huh? it's called Hulkster making excuses because Ronnie knows Dorian would beat him and for the record this is Ronnie saying what he means

THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system


Oppppssssss Hulkster the interpreter owned again

Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be reborn with better genetics

Oppppsssss Hulkster the moron owned again , this is Ronnie saying what he means

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.



This is Ronnie saying what he means  here is the best part of this , he's not even referring to Dorian at his best lmfao

Jim : You think so? Ronnie: I know so. cased closed , no thoughts about it  now if they posed the question Ronnie how would you beat Doirian at his best at 269 pounds with no torn muscles LMFAO I don't need to try and speak for him Hulkster , it's safe to assume what he'd think

Ronnie admits he couldn't beat Dorian = reality

Ronnie saying Dorian would win only because of politics = fantasy

guess where you are fan-boy 

[Immortal_Technique]

What's he supposed to do? Smack talk on a retired legend? Dude was modest, just like when Dorian clearly stated Ronnie would 'probably win' a couple of years ago. Don't mean dick.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You could just as easily ask why Ronnie never beat Nasser et all at the Olympia until '98.

He beat Nasser a few times before he became Mr Olympia

[affeman]

those shots of Jay probably surpass dorian's front shots..

but Jay's back gets crushed by dorian, who had the second best back ever.

Jay has the 343049583857904508934234 5345389038'd best back ever.

Well, I'd say it is still good enough to beat you ebony muscle hero in a thong LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

What's he supposed to do? Smack talk on a retired legend? Dude was modest, just like when Dorian clearly stated Ronnie would 'probably win' a couple of years ago. Don't mean dick.

I love when guys like you try and make excuses Ronnie was modest? this is modesty in your opinion?

THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system



no modesty just stating how he feels

Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be reborn with better genetics

More modesty? on white mans opinion ring a bell? should I continue?

and Dorian was " I guess I don't know " big difference kid

[Immortal_Technique]

He beat Nasser a few times before he became Mr Olympia

Please re-read my wording, I accounted for that with the way I phrased it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Please re-read my wording, I accounted for that with the way I phrased it.

I know but my point is , so what , he beat him before , he never beat Dorian before .

[NarcissisticDeity]

While Huckster and the rest of the Apple Dumpling Gang will assert that Ronnie was not at his peak against Dorian, if Ronnie was so superior as they like to allege, why was Ronnie nowhere near Dorian in any of the contests?  Oh, I forgot, politics..lol.   And for all of Hucksters "Kovacs" comparisons for Dorian, how bad then was Ronnie to have placed a very distant 9th in 1997?    Funny, I don't see Ronnie's name in the title of this thread.  Ironic how Ronnie always enters the fray when mental pygmy Huckster starts posting.   

Hulkster = troll nothing more

[Mars]

faggets

[Immortal_Technique]

I love when guys like you try and make excuses Ronnie was modest? this is modesty in your opinion?

THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system



no modesty just stating how he feels

Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be reborn with better genetics

More modesty? on white mans opinion ring a bell? should I continue?

and Dorian was " I guess I don't know " big difference kid

Epic generalising. These things aren't black and white, like all the best pics of Yates (not bashing, just saying). I don't presume to know what Ronnie is like all the time, he could be a total cock, as could Yates or anyone. The white man's opinion thing was perhaps not true on that occasion, so what makes you think his apparently uncharacteristically respectful answer regarding Yates is so true?

Most bodybuilders when asked say Arnold was the best ever, but does that mean he would beat them these days? Yates and Arnold are both legends, and I don't imagine anyone would want to dis them in public, just like Dorian didn't dis Ronnie when he stated his successor would 'probably win'.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Epic generalising. These things aren't black and white, like all the best pics of Yates (not bashing, just saying). I don't presume to know what Ronnie is like all the time, he could be a total cock, as could Yates or anyone. The white man's opinion thing was perhaps not true on that occasion, so what makes you think his apparently uncharacteristically respectful answer regarding Yates is so true?

Most bodybuilders when asked say Arnold was the best ever, but does that mean he would beat them these days? Yates and Arnold are both legends, and I don't imagine anyone would want to dis them in public, just like Dorian didn't dis Ronnie when he stated his successor would 'probably win'.

Generalizing ? you're the one claiming he's just being ' modest ' don't presume to speak for him.

I provided two examples of Ronnie and his modesty and multiple times he feels Dorian would beat him , stop trying to minimize how he feels because it contradicts how you feel

[Hulkster]

if Ronnie was so superior as they like to allege, why was Ronnie nowhere near Dorian in any of the contests? 

he wasnt superior back in the mid 90's moron.

like Immortal pointed out, he lost to EVERYONE ALL THE TIME

 

for good reason. he looked like crap compared to his later years: he had the shape, but he was soft as hell..

[Immortal_Technique]

ND. I presumed nothing, simply posed possibilities in a rational manner. Dorian did say Ronnie would 'probably win'. Since any interpretation of these words other than their face value meaning would apparently be presumptuous, I think you've got a problem with your argument.

In any case your replies just exited reality, I'm outy.

[Hulkster]

I think you've got a problem with your argument.

gee, how rare.

Flowerboy has a problem with his argument..

lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND. I presumed nothing, simply posed possibilities in a rational manner. Dorian did say Ronnie would 'probably win'. Since any interpretation of these words other than their face value meaning would apparently be presumptuous, I think you've got a problem with your argument.

In any case your replies just exited reality, I'm outy.

No you have a problem with Ronnie conceding Dorian would beat him . you presumed to know what he was thinking and you don't, you used the excuse he was being modest because it fits your agenda .

and reality is Ronnie feels Dorian would beat him he's said this on multiple occasions .

[NarcissisticDeity]

he wasnt superior back in the mid 90's moron.

like Immortal pointed out, he lost to EVERYONE ALL THE TIME

 

for good reason. he looked like crap compared to his later years: he had the shape, but he was soft as hell..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

gee, how rare.

Flowerboy has a problem with his argument..

lol

YOU have a problem with Ronnie admitting he couldn't beat Dorian 

your own hero agrees with me , that's gotta suck  you're reduced to speaking for him , making excuses , making up quotes , using unhanced screencaps , this is your ' argument '

[Sherief Shalaby]

Oh so you're Ronnie's interpreter now huh? it's called Hulkster making excuses because Ronnie knows Dorian would beat him and for the record this is Ronnie saying what he means

THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system


Oppppssssss Hulkster the interpreter owned again

Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be reborn with better genetics

Oppppsssss Hulkster the moron owned again , this is Ronnie saying what he means

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.



This is Ronnie saying what he means  here is the best part of this , he's not even referring to Dorian at his best lmfao

Jim : You think so? Ronnie: I know so. cased closed , no thoughts about it  now if they posed the question Ronnie how would you beat Doirian at his best at 269 pounds with no torn muscles LMFAO I don't need to try and speak for him Hulkster , it's safe to assume what he'd think

Ronnie admits he couldn't beat Dorian = reality

Ronnie saying Dorian would win only because of politics = fantasy

guess where you are fan-boy 

but in a recent interview by shawn ray at the last AC dorian described ronnie as "probably the best ever".. he was begging him not to compete again as he has nothing to prove!.. so dont keep repeating what ronnie had said years ago when he was still one time mr. olympia winner.. he was still new as the champ and didnt want to sound cocky.. but after that he described himself as the best!..

[Immortal_Technique]

No you have a problem with Ronnie conceding Dorian would beat him . you presumed to know what he was thinking and you don't, you used the excuse he was being modest because it fits your agenda .

and reality is Ronnie feels Dorian would beat him he's said this on multiple occasions .

5. Q. This is my last question for you Ronnie, and it's quite "hypothetical" but I believe it is a good one. Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?

R.C. Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win... but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.



mod⋅es⋅ty
  /ˈmɒdəsti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mod-uh-stee] Show IPA
–noun, plural -ties.
1.    the quality of being modest; freedom from vanity, boastfulness, etc.
2.    regard for decency of behavior, speech, dress, etc.
3.    simplicity; moderation.

[Hulkster]

it wouldn't be close, Ronnie is that far ahead:

Ronnie wins.

who cares about the rest:

[Hulkster]

ND's physique doesn't fare so well unforunately..LOL

[affeman]

ND's physique doesn't fare so well unforunately..LOL

pwned!

[RocketSwitch625]

Judging by this comparison Coleman was better conditioned in 97. Where did it get him that year against Dorian Yates? LOL



He looks amazing on the right but not so amazing on the left. This proves how he lost condition when competing at a higher bodyweight.