Author Topic: Milos when are you back on an IFBB stage competing? (Read 238833 times)

pellius · « **Reply #1675 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:17:09 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on September 16, 2009, 06:46:50 PM

I mean exactly that. You can feel like a winner some of the time but eventually you get old and deteriorate like everyone else. Plus you lose friends and loved ones, etc.

So you think because you eventually grow old and die you are a loser and what you do during the time you are born and the time you die is irrelevant?

And because you lose friends and love ones that the experience you shared with them is meaningless?

It's no wonder you come across as such a bitter and spiteful man. How about a little bit more nobility and gratitude?

"Despite so many ordeals, my advanced age and the nobility of my soul make me conclude that all is well."

-- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex

pellius · « **Reply #1676 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:24:42 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on September 16, 2009, 06:55:11 PM

You are not correct about your "winning" statement. What constitutes "winning" in life in the first place is a matter of how we define it, and since you don't have the power to make an all-reaching definition of diffuse matters like this, you are not in a position to make such a statement.

In this life we really don't know much. As Debussey has stated before, finding the answers to the "big questions" in life = practically impossible (can you really prove much besides the fact that you are aware right now?), at least today. What we do "know" is that you have your life, and that the quality of it is determined by the emotional states you experience. If going by this, what constitutes "winning" in life should mean being as happy as you can, and if you feel like a loser you are certainly not on the winning side. Doing what it takes to live a happy life will at least maximize some part of it you can feel pretty sure about (again, this is just Debussey's "life maxim". Very hedonistic, eh? ).
If you on top of this accepts the brutal facts about life (you will get old, you will die, your loved ones will die and so on), then you can still "win" because you maximized your happiness within the frame of something resembling reality.

They have done studies on people who's been on their death bed, and it seems like there are two groups: A minority that achieved what they set out to achieve (family, education, business, friends, loads of great experiences ect and so on, a bit like "maximizing" ) and they usually accepts death and are ok with it. The majority dies a bitter death though, feeling that they came out short (this group will include a loser like you) Addition: The "happy minority" are supposedly less fearful about their transition into death too (but Debussey has to check up on this though, don't take this for granted yet).

Arnold understood that how you feel and what you achieve is up to you (there will of course be unforseen external factors that can help or screw you over, but these should be accepted nevertheless. Getting the best output from yourself, despite what's going on elsewhere is still up to you), and even though many people thinks of him as an arse he still made them feel like losers

The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience.
Eleanor Roosevelt

And just for you Vince, you loser:

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Addition: The post is not meant to contain "universal answers", this is just what Debussey chooses to live its life by, nothing more, and Debussey has to accept the consequences of living its life based on this way of thinking.

Damn Debussey, I had no idea you could be so insightful!

Like I always tell people, this is way more than a bodybuilding board. It's full of surprises.

Debussey? Who would have thought? Maybe I just haven't read enough of your posts.

I acknowledge you.

chaos · « **Reply #1677 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:29:57 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on September 16, 2009, 06:55:11 PM

You are not correct about your "winning" statement. What constitutes "winning" in life in the first place is a matter of how we define it, and since you don't have the power to make an all-reaching definition of diffuse matters like this, you are not in a position to make such a statement.

In this life we really don't know much. As Debussey has stated before, finding the answers to the "big questions" in life = practically impossible (can you really prove much besides the fact that you are aware right now?), at least today. What we do "know" is that you have your life, and that the quality of it is determined by the emotional states you experience. If going by this, what constitutes "winning" in life should mean being as happy as you can, and if you feel like a loser you are certainly not on the winning side. Doing what it takes to live a happy life will at least maximize some part of it you can feel pretty sure about (again, this is just Debussey's "life maxim". Very hedonistic, eh? ).
If you on top of this accepts the brutal facts about life (you will get old, you will die, your loved ones will die and so on), then you can still "win" because you maximized your happiness within the frame of something resembling reality.

They have done studies on people who's been on their death bed, and it seems like there are two groups: A minority that achieved what they set out to achieve (family, education, business, friends, loads of great experiences ect and so on, a bit like "maximizing" ) and they usually accepts death and are ok with it. The majority dies a bitter death though, feeling that they came out short (this group will include a loser like you) Addition: The "happy minority" are supposedly less fearful about their transition into death too (but Debussey has to check up on this though, don't take this for granted yet).

Arnold understood that how you feel and what you achieve is up to you (there will of course be unforseen external factors that can help or screw you over, but these should be accepted nevertheless. Getting the best output from yourself, despite what's going on elsewhere is still up to you), and even though many people thinks of him as an arse he still made them feel like losers

The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience.
Eleanor Roosevelt

And just for you Vince, you loser:

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Addition: The post is not meant to contain "universal answers", this is just what Debussey chooses to live its life by, nothing more, and Debussey has to accept the consequences of living its life based on this way of thinking.

Nice MELTDOWN, Duck.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #1678 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:38:07 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on September 16, 2009, 06:55:11 PM

You are not correct about your "winning" statement. What constitutes "winning" in life in the first place is a matter of how we define it, and since you don't have the power to make an all-reaching definition of diffuse matters like this, you are not in a position to make such a statement.

In this life we really don't know much. As Debussey has stated before, finding the answers to the "big questions" in life = practically impossible (can you really prove much besides the fact that you are aware right now?), at least today. What we do "know" is that you have your life, and that the quality of it is determined by the emotional states you experience. If going by this, what constitutes "winning" in life should mean being as happy as you can, and if you feel like a loser you are certainly not on the winning side. Doing what it takes to live a happy life will at least maximize some part of it you can feel pretty sure about (again, this is just Debussey's "life maxim". Very hedonistic, eh? ).
If you on top of this accepts the brutal facts about life (you will get old, you will die, your loved ones will die and so on), then you can still "win" because you maximized your happiness within the frame of something resembling reality.

They have done studies on people who's been on their death bed, and it seems like there are two groups: A minority that achieved what they set out to achieve (family, education, business, friends, loads of great experiences ect and so on, a bit like "maximizing" ) and they usually accepts death and are ok with it. The majority dies a bitter death though, feeling that they came out short (this group will include a loser like you) Addition: The "happy minority" are supposedly less fearful about their transition into death too (but Debussey has to check up on this though, don't take this for granted yet).

Arnold understood that how you feel and what you achieve is up to you (there will of course be unforseen external factors that can help or screw you over, but these should be accepted nevertheless. Getting the best output from yourself, despite what's going on elsewhere is still up to you), and even though many people thinks of him as an arse he still made them feel like losers

The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience.
Eleanor Roosevelt

And just for you Vince, you loser:

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Addition: The post is not meant to contain "universal answers", this is just what Debussey chooses to live its life by, nothing more, and Debussey has to accept the consequences of living its life based on this way of thinking.

this is awesome..really made me stop and think..fits right in with my buddhism...nice job Deb

Vince B · « **Reply #1679 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:40:17 PM »

That noone wins in life doesn't imply most are losers. I think you lose if you don't control most of what is happening to you. The human condition and that sort of thing can overwhelm many individuals.

Few achieve self-actualization but eventually every one of us repeats various things that give some satisfaction. Goodness knows what the internet does but it seems to occupy the minds of many here.

Amazing that some see bitterness where they should see cynicism, reality, and especially humour.

Albert Schmidt · « **Reply #1680 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:01:20 PM »

What does all this have to do with Milos getting back on an IFBB stage???

MB_722 · « **Reply #1681 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:03:52 PM »

Quote from: Albert Schmidt on September 16, 2009, 09:01:20 PM

What does all this have to do with Milos getting back on an IFBB stage???

F/A

chaos · « **Reply #1682 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:10:17 PM »

Quote from: Albert Schmidt on September 16, 2009, 09:01:20 PM

What does all this have to do with Milos getting back on an IFBB stage???

The IFBB and Bob Chick will never allow Milos to get back on an IFBB stage.

Quote from: chaos on September 16, 2009, 04:17:57 PM

Yeah, you're right.......it couldn't be the waiver they want him to sign saying he won't sue the fuck out if them.

Hey Chick, does every Pro sign one of those waivers when they get their IFBB Pro card

Albert Schmidt · « **Reply #1683 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:29:48 PM »

Quote from: chaos on September 16, 2009, 09:10:17 PM

The IFBB and Bob Chick will never allow Milos to get back on an IFBB stage.

Milos might have something to say about that.

Albert Schmidt · « **Reply #1684 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:36:24 PM »

What has Chick got to do with Milos competing???

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #1685 on:** September 17, 2009, 05:49:08 PM »

Quote from: Albert Schmidt on September 17, 2009, 04:36:24 PM

What has Chick got to do with Milos competing???

Chick is jealous Milos has real hair

Albert Schmidt · « **Reply #1686 on:** September 17, 2009, 05:56:48 PM »

Sounds about right. $:-\$

chaos · « **Reply #1687 on:** September 17, 2009, 05:59:48 PM »

Quote from: Albert Schmidt on September 17, 2009, 04:36:24 PM

What has Chick got to do with Milos competing???

Chick walks the line between the company he represents and the "athletes" it exploits.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #1688 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:05:11 PM »

Quote from: Albert Schmidt on September 17, 2009, 05:56:48 PM

Sounds about right. $:-\$

Maybe Chick fears Milos will try to take his job as "athletes rep" because Milos would probably be more popular choice with the "athletes"

Chick · « **Reply #1689 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:06:13 PM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on September 17, 2009, 06:05:11 PM

Maybe Chick fears Milos will try to take his job as "athletes rep" because Milos would probably be more popular choice with the "athletes"

LOL...dont count on it

Bix · « **Reply #1690 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:09:31 PM »

Quote from: Chick on September 17, 2009, 06:06:13 PM

LOL...dont count on it

You've had the postition long enough Chick, MOVE ON.

chaos · « **Reply #1691 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:10:05 PM »

Quote from: Chick on September 17, 2009, 06:06:13 PM

LOL...dont count on it

Not with the IFBB representative brainwashing and blackballing members that associate with him.

Albert Schmidt · « **Reply #1692 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:19:10 PM »

Didn't Chick save Samual from Milos??

Chick · « **Reply #1693 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:20:05 PM »

Quote from: Bix on September 17, 2009, 06:09:31 PM

You've had the postition long enough Chick, MOVE ON.

When your opinion matters, I'll consider it

Bix · « **Reply #1694 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:23:24 PM »

Quote from: Chick on September 17, 2009, 06:20:05 PM

When your opinion matters, I'll consider it

I see you hanging in there as long as Oscar State held onto his IFBB position.

Albert Schmidt · « **Reply #1695 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:24:12 PM »

Now that Lee has his Pro card back and doesn't have any sponsor wouldn't that make him a great candidate for Athletes Rep??

Chick · « **Reply #1696 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:26:17 PM »

Quote from: Bix on September 17, 2009, 06:23:24 PM

I see you hanging in there as long as Oscar State held onto his IFBB position.

Why do you care?

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #1697 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Bix on September 17, 2009, 06:09:31 PM

You've had the postition long enough Chick, MOVE ON.

MoveOn.org has a new cause... they used to be all about replacing an incompetent administration with a socialist negro, now they're going to take on the challenge of replacing an incompetent athlete's rep with a mentally unstable Serbian.

At least they can keep the same slogan: "Out of the frying pan, into the fire!"

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #1698 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:34:08 PM »

Quote from: Bix on September 17, 2009, 06:23:24 PM

I see you hanging in there as long as Oscar State held onto his IFBB position.

Old fruit Oscar stayed until he died, looks like the man with prescription hair will to

Benny B · « **Reply #1699 on:** September 17, 2009, 07:00:34 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on September 17, 2009, 06:32:57 PM

MoveOn.org has a new cause... they used to be all about replacing an incompetent administration with a socialist negro, now they're going to take on the challenge of replacing an incompetent athlete's rep with a mentally unstable Serbian.

At least they can keep the same slogan: "Out of the frying pan, into the fire!"

You're hilarious!