Nevada Sen. John Ensign admits affair

[Benny B]

Yes your right.The left NEVER does that.Do you happen to recall the senator from Oregon who they ran out of office?Do you remember what the left did to Trent Lott?PLEASE,both parties do the exact same shit.Pelosi talks about ethics and is a god dam criminal as does Reid with his sweethart deals and Dodd with his self rightous self getting more deals.The idea that its only on one side is silly.Didnt Barney Frank just recently call Scalia a homophobe?A guy that had a prostitution ring running out of his house.They all are shit.

The democrats don't run on a platform of family values,"BILLY."  
The GOP is full of HYPOCRITES.

[MCWAY]

I dunno.  I don't think she suddenly realized this at age 18.  I think she still feels the same way.

I just think her newfound activism was the result of Palin wanting to rekindle love from the far-right who was disappointed in her parenting, and saw Bristol on FOX saying something they'd never want their own kids to hear (it's okay to have sex, it's realistic).

you're welcome to your opinion, which means about as much as mine, nada.

Gov. Palin hardly had to "rekindle" any love from the "far-right". In fact, they were very supportive of her and came to her defense and that of Bristol, when the left went on their tirades about the Palin family.

Again, Bristol has had to learn the hard way. The rigors of her likely having to raise her child alone are finally starting to hit home. That baby is there: Live, in the flesh, and in need of care. It's real.

Teens need to know that they put themselves (and their children) behind the 8-ball, when they have babies out of wedlock. As I said, if you can't take care of a baby, you don't engage in the baby-making process.

The democrats don't run on a platform of family values,"BILLY."  

Oh really? Does the name JOHN EDWARDS ring a bell?

And how many times have we heard about how much of a devoted husband and father Barack Obama is? In fact, did he not mention in CHURCH on Fathers’ Day last year, the importance of men stepping to the plate to take care of their families (Hint: This was the same message after which Jesse Jackson claimed he wanted to chop Obama’s nuts off).

That is part of the appeal that Obama has to the American people.

Your implication that Democrats deserve less scrutiny or criticism for whoring around, just because they "don't run on a platform of family values" (which is utterly false, in many cases) rings quite hollow.

[Straw Man]

Earth to Straw Man, abstinence means not having sex AT ALL!!

well if you're married and you're not boning the wife then you shouldn't be having any sex at all

do you get it now?

[Benny B]

Oh really? Does the name JOHN EDWARDS ring a bell?

Your implication that Democrats deserve less scrutiny or criticism for whoring around, just because they "don't run on a platform of family values" (which is utterly false, in many cases) rings quite hollow.

John Edwards represents a long history of the democrats running on a platform of "family values?" Give me a break.

Your use of the term "implication" is pejorative and indicates your attempt to skew the discussion because of your weak premise. At no time did I state that democrats do not deserve criticism for adultery, rather that when it does happen, it does not reveal them to be from a party of HYPOCRITES.   

Do you support hypocrites in your personal life as well as your politics? 

[MCWAY]

John Edwards represents a long history of the democrats running on a platform of "family values?" Give me a break.

Your use of the term "implication" is pejorative and indicates your attempt to skew the discussion because of your weak premise. At no time did I state that democrats do not deserve criticism for adultery, rather that when it does happen, it does not reveal them to be from a party of HYPOCRITES.   

Do you support hypocrites in your personal life as well as your politics? 

Apparently, you missed my most recent edit. So, let me spell it out AGAIN!!! How many times have we heard about how much of a devoted husband and father Barack Obama is? Far too many times to count.


In fact, in CHURCH on Fathers’ Day last year, he gave a speech, emphasizing the importance of men stepping to the plate to take care of their families. This was the same message after which Jesse Jackson claimed he wanted to chop Obama’s nuts off (the old "hot mike" routine).

If, God forbid, Obama were to pull a Clinton and start screwing around on his wife, you can bet your bottom dollar the GOP would bring up this Fathers' Day speech, among other things (and the Dems would downplay it, to the fullest, as you are doing).

Speaking of Jesse Jackson, he and Al Sharpton are long-entrenched in the Democratic Party, as are a number of other ministers. The "family values" thing is a given with them.

So, your silly idea that Democrats DO NOT run on family values is utter ridiculous.

[BM OUT]

The democrats don't run on a platform of family values,"BILLY."  
The GOP is full of HYPOCRITES.

No they run on diversity which means BLAME WHITES FOR EVERYTHING and give loans to pieces of shit who cant pay them back all in the NAME OF FAIRNESS AND DIVERSITY ,then play innocent as to why the hosing market falls.Then pass hate crimes legislation but somehow NEVER charge blacks with hate crimes,never mind 30,000 black on white rapes a year as compared to ZERO white on black.They want inclusion but promote the congressional black congress and press for seperation everyday.THEY ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES OF ALL!!!!!They are a party that kills Trent Lott,but allows Al Sharpton to run for president and speak at their conventions.They cry about racism but allow Jesse Jackson to speak at their conventions and let Alcie Hastings be a part of the party.Talk about hpocrites they are the biggest on earth!!!

[240 is Back]

so this dude wanted clinton to resign from his job, president.

But he won't resign as senator.  no, he just quit one committee that he would have certainly been tossed off of, just as craig lost his leadership role but kept his job.

[LurkerNoMore]

The definition of hypocrisy is lost on hyprocrites.

Talking about Obama being a good father is just a speech.  Passing laws, leading crusades, and attempting to push your "values" on everyone else in the country is something else.  Especially when you get caught for the exact same thing you are railing against and  crucifying others for.

Republicans are hypocrites of the worst kind.

[Benny B]

No they run on diversity which means BLAME WHITES FOR EVERYTHING and give loans to pieces of shit who cant pay them back all in the NAME OF FAIRNESS AND DIVERSITY ,then play innocent as to why the hosing market falls.Then pass hate crimes legislation but somehow NEVER charge blacks with hate crimes,never mind 30,000 black on white rapes a year as compared to ZERO white on black.They want inclusion but promote the congressional black congress and press for seperation everyday.THEY ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES OF ALL!!!!!They are a party that kills Trent Lott,but allows Al Sharpton to run for president and speak at their conventions.They cry about racism but allow Jesse Jackson to speak at their conventions and let Alcie Hastings be a part of the party.Talk about hpocrites they are the biggest on earth!!!

Despite your hatred of Black people, they are not the source of your troubles. You mention Al Sharpton in every other post, yet I'd hazard a guess that he has very little relevance to your day-to-day life. I don't think Sharpton or Jackson are especially relevant to anyone's lives, other than offering opinions to add to the political and social discourse, as they have a right to do.

Focus on getting a job, backing off the steroids, and self-improvement.

[Dos Equis]

Apparently, you missed my most recent edit. So, let me spell it out AGAIN!!! How many times have we heard about how much of a devoted husband and father Barack Obama is? Far too many times to count.


In fact, in CHURCH on Fathers’ Day last year, he gave a speech, emphasizing the importance of men stepping to the plate to take care of their families. This was the same message after which Jesse Jackson claimed he wanted to chop Obama’s nuts off (the old "hot mike" routine).

If, God forbid, Obama were to pull a Clinton and start screwing around on his wife, you can bet your bottom dollar the GOP would bring up this Fathers' Day speech, among other things (and the Dems would downplay it, to the fullest, as you are doing).

Speaking of Jesse Jackson, he and Al Sharpton are long-entrenched in the Democratic Party, as are a number of other ministers. The "family values" thing is a given with them.

So, your silly idea that Democrats DO NOT run on family values is utter ridiculous.

Are you referring to the same Jesse Jackson who fathered a child several years ago with his mistress? 

[BM OUT]

Despite your hatred of Black people, they are not the source of your troubles. You mention Al Sharpton in every other post, yet I'd hazard a guess that he has very little relevance to your day-to-day life. I don't think Sharpton or Jackson are especially relevant to anyone's lives, other than offering opinions to add to the political and social discourse, as they have a right to do.

Focus on getting a job, backing off the steroids, and self-improvement.

Ok,then let me change it.In Rhode Island we have a congressman wh passes drug laws all the time.This little piece of shit has now just entered rehab for the fourth time!!!Imagine that?Passing laws for me to follow but cant follow the very laws he passes.

Joe Biden is THE BIGGEST anti-drug guy in the history of the senate,yet his daughter is a coke head.

John Edwards runs as the moral family values candidtate and knocks up some chick while his wife is dying of cancer.

Robery Byrd is labeled as "the concience of the senate" this man was nor only in the Klan,he rose to klegal in the Klan which is two steps away from grand wizard.

There,no talk of race,just examples of the double talking immoral scum bags of the democratic party.

[MCWAY]

The definition of hypocrisy is lost on hyprocrites.

Talking about Obama being a good father is just a speech.  Passing laws, leading crusades, and attempting to push your "values" on everyone else in the country is something else.  Especially when you get caught for the exact same thing you are railing against and  crucifying others for.

Republicans are hypocrites of the worst kind.

Actually, it’s lost on folks like you, who apparently had one too many bowls of Numbskull Crispies, this morning.

Whether you’re merely giving a speech or rallying a cause like marriage amendments, as a public servant, you are expected to act within a certain moral and ethical code.

For some reason, liberals seem to think that their politicians are exempt from this, because they supposedly don’t run on “family values” (which is categorically false, in many instances, such as that of Edwards); thus their leaders aren’t as bad as those of their opponents.

And, lest that political amnesia flare up yet again, there were/are plenty of DEMOCRATIC leaders who participate in items like marriage amendments and the Defense of Marriage Act, hence, the reason the amendments and DOMA passed by such wide margins; DOMA passed by margin of 342-67 in the House and 85-14 in the Senate. Take a wild guess as how many politicians with “D”s next to their name voted on that one

By the way, who was that guy who signed DOMA into law again? (Hint: “I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman!!!”)

[Mons Venus]

Joe Biden is THE BIGGEST anti-drug guy in the history of the senate,yet his daughter is a coke head.

Coke? Ummmm sounds like my kinda whore.  

[BM OUT]

Coke? Ummmm sounds like my kinda whore.  

Be careful,Imus got fired for using that term.

[LurkerNoMore]

Excellent example of hyporcrisy from the board hypocrite themselves.  Keep us entertained.  But please, keep the 3 page novels to a minimum and we might read your drivel.

[Hedgehog]

The democrats don't run on a platform of family values,"BILLY."  
The GOP is full of HYPOCRITES.

There are a few Democrats who are bullshitting "family value" clowns as well.

Tipper Gore was one of the leading ladies behind the idiotic labeling of records that got introduced back in the 80's.

Talk about fascist anti-free speech, Reaganist way of acting.




Then the internet came and set the freedom of speech free again, temporarily, but Fascists around the world are trying to restrict it again, trying to control us once again.




BTW,




on the issue of internet rights I think Obama seems to be pretty decent, Hillary I really don't know, but I get the feeling she's much more conservative.

There are plenty of Republicans that seems to be in support of the individual right, and quite frankly, both the big US parties have ideologies that should be big on the individuals side.

Especially the GOP.

So I think filesharing could become a big issue for the GOP, if they have the smarts to pick it up.

They certainly have the ideological base to do it - nobody should care what you or anyone else do with your computer, and companies should not be allowed to track your actions.

Like they do in France.




I'm sure Fox News could do a great piece on the french angle, they're great on whipping up hate against everything French.

[MCWAY]

Excellent example of hyporcrisy from the board hypocrite themselves.  Keep us entertained.  But please, keep the 3 page novels to a minimum and we might read your drivel.

Complete sentences tend to sizzle that grey matter of yours. Especially, since you can't back your statements, such as:

Passing laws, leading crusades, and attempting to push your "values" on everyone else in the country is something else.

Of course, your convenient political amnesia prevents you from acknowledging the fact that numerous Democrats have done THE EXACT SAME THING for which you keep blasting Republicans, particularly as it relates to marriage.

Once again, DOMA was passed 342-67 in the House and 85-14 in the Senate. Guess how many DEMOCRATS were in the mix. And last time I checked, the man who signed DOMA into law was also a Democrat.

You can finish your cereal now.

[LurkerNoMore]

No need to take back FACTS young lady.  Try again when you have something else to pass off as comments.

You have no idea what hypocrisy truly is.  Typical Republican.

[MCWAY]

No need to take back FACTS young lady.  Try again when you have something else to pass off as comments.

You have no idea what hypocrisy truly is.  Typical Republican.

Au Contraire!! I do indeed. I see it every time your bone-headed posts appear, especially when you run like a scalded dog once the FACTS actually show up.

Let's see: Lurker - whines and screams about Republicans passing marriage laws and doing the "family values" thing, while some of their members get busted for adultery.

Same Lurker - keep his otherwise flapping mouth SHUT when Democrats pass marriage laws and do the "family values" thing, while somoe of THEIR members get busted for adultery.

By that standard: Lurker = (the very thing about which he whines) Hypocrite!!!

Edit - In 1996, the Senate was 55-45, Republicans to Democrats and 230-204 in the House, respecitively. Yet, DOMA passed 85-14 in the Senate and 342-67 in the House.

Guess what that means: Some of those Democrats did the very things about which Lurker has his britches in a bunch, "Passing laws, leading crusades, and attempting to push your "values" on everyone else in the country"

[MCWAY]

The democrats don't run on a platform of family values,"BILLY."  

You might want to tell that to this gentleman, Benny:



Lincoln Davis wants life, not politics, to speak for itself

WASHINGTON (BP)--Lincoln Davis responds robustly when people equate faith with political party affiliation.

"When I meet people who tell me, 'You can't be a Christian if you're a Democrat,' I've got to start reading and quoting Scripture and explain to them, 'You need to seek forgiveness. You need to understand the plan of salvation. You need to understand how you become a Christian,'" the Democratic congressman from Tennessee said.

"Now if abortion and the gay movement was the only thing that mattered in America today, I'd be a Republican. Well, guns, I've got to count guns," he said. "I feel compelled to let my life speak for itself, rather than my political positions."

Davis, 65, is in his fourth term as the U.S. representative of Tennessee's massive Fourth District, which curves like the letter "j" around the central part of the state. He is a Southern Baptist, a member with his wife Lynda of the First Baptist Church in Byrdstown, Tenn., since 1971.

He is one of the more conservative congressmen in a political party marked by a platform that endorses abortion rights and homosexual rights. He is a pro-life leader, sponsor of the Pregnant Women Support Act, a major piece of legislation seeking to reduce abortions by 95 percent in 10 years. He is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition, which describes itself as a group that gives "moderate and conservative Democrats in the House of Representatives a common sense, bridge-building voice within the institution.".......

While that means he will cast what are considered conservative votes on such issues as abortion, it also means for him that he will support social programs championed by Democrats. His advocacy of such programs is based on his understanding of the Bible, Davis said.

Of the "many different scriptures in the Bible that test me from time to time, and they all do, … the part that really burdens me probably as much as any is Matthew 25, 31 through 46, when Christ is saying there will come a time when we'll be judged based upon how you addressed the needs of the lesser amongst us, and He mentions the sick and the hungry, the naked and thirsty, the imprisoned unjustly, and the homeless, the stranger," Davis said.

Unlike some evangelical Christians in the Republican Party, Davis applies such passages to the government providing for the needy through Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps and other programs.

Before his election to Congress, Davis was mayor of Byrdstown, then a member of the Tennessee House of Representatives, followed by service in the state Senate.

Davis' walk of faith did not begin with a "bolt-of-lightning experience," he said. His family attended church, as well as brush arbor and tent revival meetings, when he was a boy in Fentress County, the home of World War I hero Alvin York.....

http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=30715

 

[LurkerNoMore]

Bringing up DOMA and Dems in the topic of hypocrisy is useless.  Unless of course after voting for DOMA some of the Dems got caught in illegal gay marriages.  But that didn't happen did it?  Your point = irrelevant.  But we already know that.

Webster is your friend. 

While you are at it, you can learn the difference between political views and personal views and how hypocrisy reigns supreme over Republicans in that area as well.

Of course, I don't really expect you to be smart enough to comprehend any of this basic logic.  So spout your useless 3 page reply that does nothing but clarify what we already know.  You're an idiot.

[MCWAY]

Bringing up DOMA and Dems in the topic of hypocrisy is useless.  Unless of course after voting for DOMA some of the Dems got caught in illegal gay marriages.  But that didn't happen did it?  Your point = irrelevant.  But we already know that.

Boy, are you always this cracked in the head, or is it a special occasion? Ensign didn't get caught in a gay affair or gay "marriage". Yet, you've labeled him as a hypocrite, for doing the family values thing, INCLUDING voting on marriage amendments (particularly the one in his home state), yet commiting adultery.

Yet, in true bone-headed, point-missing, ostrich fashion, you run from the fact that the SAME MAN who signed the Defense of Marriage Act is known for being the biggest adulterer (perhaps) in political history.

So, once again, the gold medal for buffoonery remains around your neck.

Webster is your friend. 

But, apparently, it's not YOURS.

While you are at it, you can learn the difference between political views and personal views and how hypocrisy reigns supreme over Republicans in that area as well.

Of course, I don't really expect you to be smart enough to comprehend any of this basic logic.  So spout your useless 3 page reply that does nothing but clarify what we already know.  You're an idiot.

Michael Jackson has a better chance of winning Mr. Olympia than you have of producing any "basic logic".

Like the spineless and memory-void sap you are, you dodge the issue at hand and make pitiful excuses, when your arguments get shredded.

And, as mentioned earlier, the hypocrisy from the Dem side of the house is HARDLY limited to just the marriage issue. "Turbo Tax Timmy" Geithner (A tax cheat in charge of the treasury) and Joe "The Human Gaffe Machine" Biden (demands people pay their fair share to help the less fortunate, yet spends a whopping 0.3% of his income in charitable donations).
are prime examples of that.

[LurkerNoMore]

Just like I said about the 3 page post of nonsense.

They do have meds to help with delusions like these.  You could ask the doc for double the dose.

[MCWAY]

Just like I said about the 3 page post of nonsense.

They do have meds to help with delusions like these.  You could ask the doc for double the dose.

Unfortunately, no medication exists to clear up that yellow streak down your back.

The simple fact is you put a bunch of gibberish, and when faced with the actual facts, you slither away and hide (rather than address the issue) like the spineless punk that you are.

Of course, when you see the CBS special, "“Barack Obama: An American Dad”", airing this Fathers' Day, that will further shatter your silly canard about Democrats not using the "family values" platform.

But, you'll continue to hide from this statement, Passing laws, leading crusades, and attempting to push your "values" on everyone else in the country is something else.", denying that Dems have done much the same (especially a certain president who signed DOMA into law).

[LurkerNoMore]

Never said they didn't use "Family" platforms.

Said Republicans were vast majority busted in the hypocrisy of their actions/crimes behind their voices.

Had you been paying attention, oh.... two pages ago... you would have seen that and spared us all the needless drivel.  Of course should you ever learn the difference between political and personal, it could help you off the board as well.

Nice try though.  But your best efforts were only vaguely amusing.