people aren't ment to screw same person forever

[big L dawg]

OK....was just curious. I've had these type's of debate a few other times and have yet to find a person in disagreement with me that had actually had one sex partner there entire life.the funniest time was with a guy that was all upset by my stance because of his religious views yet was on his fourth marriage.

[lax]

knowing deeply the same person you spent decades with is also beneficial to both your own survival, and this is how it was meant to be in the first place.

you at least THINK you know 'em

you never really do

women=fickle

[polychronopolous]

OK....was just curious. I've had these type's of debate a few other times and have yet to find a person in disagreement with me that had actually had one sex partner there entire life.the funniest time was with a guy that was all upset by my stance because of his religious views yet was on his fourth marriage.

When did you talk to Joe "The Coach" Marino about this?

[liberalismo]

If you marry someone that you actually love, and someone you are compatible with...then a lifelong marriage is no problem at all.


If you marry only for money...
If you marry only for appearance...
If you marry only for sex...
If you marry on a whim...
If you marry to impress people...
If you marry just to marry...
If you're unwilling to work at improving and maintaining your marriage...


It will fail.


People are stupid and lazy, this is why marriages fail. They marry for the wrong reasons and are never willing to maintain or WORK to improve their relationships and thus this is why marriages often fail and why infidelity is so common.

Plenty of people marry and remain faithful UNTIL DEATH. Enough do this to prove that humans are not genetically predispositioned to be unfaithful.

[jack_ftype]

well said Uberman

[technokc]

this constant attraction to different things /people is only promoted by the modern world we live in. If you look at the sources that motivate people to look elsewhere, wether we're talking about buying new stuff or develop a strong desire for someone else,  it's always TV, movies etc.

Porn is absolutely not the answer, as it is part of the problem. Long term and constant porn viewing deeply alters your mind in the long run. Being quite a recent phenomena , it is abolutely certain that in some decades (psychological) studies on generations of "users" will point how bad its influence is and how bad it affects relationships between men and women.

When people had no accesses to all these medias constantly promoting adultery, drama and deviant behaviors, they were a lot less prone to reproduce these behaviors or cognitive schemes. The current modern society is the reason number one why people keep feeding themselves unconsciously with very bad influences on a daily basis.

Most people nowadays think life is all about instant satisfaction, and that a relationship is all about sex and money.  That's because it is exactly the message sent 24/7 by TV and medias. This is also what sells best. That everything is either black, or white, and that if it doesnt work, why fix it? just go to the "supermarket" and pick a different person/experience. You can't build anything doing this over and over, but it's exactly the kind of behavior that the occidental society promotes. Our moden occidental societies are factories that produce schyzoid people. We re building our own despair.

Often you hear people saying that what they re doing is ok , cause "everyone else does it" and because it's what they see on TV.

Take a look at how loyal people are in third world countries, where being stable and trustworthy toward your couple, familly and community is still deeply important.

That's because everythign is way too easy, that's because people are spoiled in occident, that they forgot about all these values and keep destroying em on a daily basis. It's no wonder the shock between people from other parts of the world where values are still important and spoiled occidentals is and will become increasingly violent.

You obviously are a pretty intelligent guy, however I disagree with your view on porn.  In your previous post you stated how the instant gratification types see these things in the media and this causes them to want to cheat.  However most likely people like this will cheat regardless of seeing this on the web or on tv because hot women exist in real life.  Supermarket, gym, bar etc.  

If you are an intellectual who focuses on communicating and keeping your relationship intact then porn should not effect you negatively and in actuality can bring further enjoyment to a relationship. The couple that feels completely secure in their relationship will not correlate the simple act of viewing porn with cheating.

[liberalismo]

Face it, no matter how hot your girl, you always want to nail at least a dozen other pussies you see that day.  Welcome to being a man.  It's rough, but we somehow manage.  Remember, porn doesn't count as cheating.  Nail 10s all day long.

You're confused. Appearance is only a small part of the equation. Trying to build up a relationship with someone based only on appearance would be like trying to build a house just using nails and having no wood or bricks or any material. It won't work.

[io856]

what would Jay Cutler have to say on this?

[Meso_z]

hahaha wtf is that? 

[liberalismo]

You obviously are a pretty intelligent guy, however I disagree with your view on porn.  In your previous post you stated how the instant gratification types see these things in the media and this causes them to want to cheat.  However most likely people like this will cheat regardless of seeing this on the web or on tv because hot women exist in real life.  Supermarket, gym, bar etc.  

If you are an intellectual who focuses on communicating and keeping your relationship intact then porn should not effect you negatively and in actuality can bring further enjoyment to a relationship. The couple that feels completely secure in their relationship will not correlate the simple act of viewing porn with cheating.

I think that if you're with the right woman, you don't need to look at other women (in real life or as pornography).


People using pornography are lusting after OTHER people aside from their wives or husbands. If a man lusts after OTHER women, then he is not totally focused on his wife and this is a form of infidelity. It's just a sign that your not 100% dedicated to this one person and that you need others to satisfy you. If this is the case, you probably aren't right for this person and they probably aren't right for you. It's an unstable situation. Surely, looking at porn is not equal to having sex with another woman but the same principle applies. The same reason why "cheating" is bad is why using porno in a marriage is bad.

There are probably statistics out there showing that pornography increases infidelity, I've seen them before. Someone might be able to find them if they want.

[polychronopolous]

You're confused. Appearance is only a small part of the equation. Trying to build up a relationship with someone based only on appearance would be like trying to build a house just using nails and having no wood or bricks or any material. It won't work.

You weigh a buck 50; conversations on this website don't concern you.

[io856]

somebody here said there are two evolutionary mating strategies... basically long term pair bonding and the other one which involved "sleeping around" both are successful at producing off spring and both is evident in animals... it just might be that this is a genetic trait

[Tatyana]

There is more than one breeding/sexual strategy for humans.

That 'spreading seed/survival of the fittest' theory does have some basis in reality, but it was first postulated nearly thirty/forty years ago and evolutionary biology, genetics and behavioural studies have moved on since then.

This is even reflected in the oxytocin gene, different polymorphisms have some people bond more  than others.

If it isn't your thing to have a lifelong partner, then don't.

Simple.

[io856]

There is more than one breeding/sexual strategy for humans.

That 'spreading seed/survival of the fittest' theory does have some basis in reality, but it was first postulated nearly thirty/forty years ago and evolutionary biology, genetics and behavioural studies have moved on since then.

This is even reflected in the oxytocin gene, different polymorphisms have some people bond more  than others.

If it isn't your thing to have a lifelong partner, then don't.

Simple.

wow... so does that mean some people will genetically be predisposed to bond with certain people?

[Matterhorn]

I wanna be reborn as a monogamous, faithful, porn-hating Uberpenguine !!!

[technokc]

I think that if you're with the right woman, you don't need to look at other women (in real life or as pornography).


People using pornography are lusting after OTHER people aside from their wives or husbands. If a man lusts after OTHER women, then he is not totally focused on his wife and this is a form of infidelity. It's just a sign that your not 100% dedicated to this one person and that you need others to satisfy you. If this is the case, you probably aren't right for this person and they probably aren't right for you. It's an unstable situation. Surely, looking at porn is not equal to having sex with another woman but the same principle applies. The same reason why "cheating" is bad is why using porno in a marriage is bad.

There are probably statistics out there showing that pornography increases infidelity, I've seen them before. Someone might be able to find them if they want.

"lusting" after women in and of itself is not the problem.  Are you trying to tell me that if you found the right woman that all other sexy women will stop appearing that way to you?  Of course not!  Controlling lust is the issue, and if you both feel confident that each one of you can then where is the problem with porn?  

It is the same feeling like wanting to kill the douchebag at the bar who oggles your girl and then spill a natty light on you.  Nothing wrong with thinking it actually doing it however. . . .

[blackbillions]

uberman you seem very intelligent. what are your views on race,ethnicity,diversity,race mixing,seperatism and race and intelligence

[Tatyana]

somebody here said there are two evolutionary mating strategies... basically long term pair bonding and the other one which involved "sleeping around" both are successful at producing off spring and both is evident in animals... it just might be that this is a genetic trait

Bingo, there are benefits to both mating with a lot of individual or just one.

It isn't either/or, it is both.

On the oxytocin gene:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14641-monogamy-gene-found-in-people.html

On the diversity of human sexual strategy:


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026841.700-the-dizzying-diversity-of-human-sexual-strategies.html

[Tatyana]

wow... so does that mean some people will genetically be predisposed to bond with certain people?

If you want to look at the genetics of attraction, it is thought that this has more to do with our immune system.

We are attracted to people with immune systems (HLA/MHC typing) that is the most different from us. Human leucocyte antigen/major histocompatability complex is thought to give rise to pheromones, and it is also thought that this is why kissing has evolved, so we can get close enough to sniff each other.

The problem today is that the birth control pill mimics pregnancy in women, and a woman's preference (scent wise) is for someone with a similar HLA when pregnant, so kin.

When women come off the pill to get pregnant in a long term relationship, they may find that they are not as attracted to their partner.

[lax]

If you want to look at the genetics of attraction, it is thought that this has more to do with our immune system.

We are attracted to people with immune systems (HLA/MHC typing) that is the most different from us. Human leucocyte antigen/major histocompatability complex is thought to give rise to pheromones, and it is also thought that this is why kissing has evolved, so we can get close enough to sniff each other.

The problem today is that the birth control pill mimics pregnancy in women, and a woman's preference (scent wise) is for someone with a similar HLA when pregnant, so kin.

When women come off the pill to get pregnant in a long term relationship, they may find that they are not as attracted to their partner.

Tatyana=Professor of Bunk

[Army of One]

If you want to look at the genetics of attraction, it is thought that this has more to do with our immune system.

We are attracted to people with immune systems (HLA/MHC typing) that is the most different from us. Human leucocyte antigen/major histocompatability complex is thought to give rise to pheromones, and it is also thought that this is why kissing has evolved, so we can get close enough to sniff each other.

The problem today is that the birth control pill mimics pregnancy in women, and a woman's preference (scent wise) is for someone with a similar HLA when pregnant, so kin.

When women come off the pill to get pregnant in a long term relationship, they may find that they are not as attracted to their partner.

Pheromones being responsible for any attraction in humans has been debunked.Other certain animals then yes its legit.

[Tatyana]

Pheromones being responsible for any attraction in humans has been debunked.Other certain animals then yes its legit.

W
If you mean those stupid adverts selling human phermones, yes.

I am referring to MHC/HLA, which may or may not be related to scent.

People are attracted to those with a different MHC than them.

It is obviously a part of attraction, besides things like symmetry.

[liberalismo]

"lusting" after women in and of itself is not the problem.  Are you trying to tell me that if you found the right woman that all other sexy women will stop appearing that way to you?  Of course not!  Controlling lust is the issue, and if you both feel confident that each one of you can then where is the problem with porn?  

It is the same feeling like wanting to kill the douchebag at the bar who oggles your girl and then spill a natty light on you.  Nothing wrong with thinking it actually doing it however. . . .

The stronger the lust, the harder it is to control. If you find the right woman, other women lose their appeal. If they don't, you haven't found the right woman.

If you eat a lunch and are still hungry....You didn't eat the right lunch.

[liberalismo]

uberman you seem very intelligent. what are your views on race,ethnicity,diversity,race mixing,seperatism and race and intelligence

I'll state MY opinions on it.




Race mixing is fine.
Diversity is good.
Separatism is bad.
Race has little to do with intelligence.

[LurkyLurker]

when are people gonna realize this.human beings have a genetic predisposition to spread there seed.I'm sick of hearing all this shit in the news about this person having an affair,or that couple is getting a divorce.Like this latest shit with Gov.Sanford.or the whole john & Kate shit.everyone just shut the fuck up...people don't want to fuck the same person there entire lives.get over it.and you suckers for love that think you and your wife,girlfriend are different...no your not.It's in a bitches DNA to always move up the Alpha male latter.More $,more muscle,more security,more everything.And guys...please don't even start.they can't get enough pussy it's in our genetic makeup.......meltdown bitches.

Fair enough. But the problem isn't that Sanford found another partner. It's that he cheated on his spouse, lied about his whereabouts and as a public servant running an entire state, went MIA from his staff... all for some strange. You want to get busy with someone else? Fine. Do it without dragging others into your mess.