My best condition so far - now complete with all pictures on page 5

[Cleanest Natural]

Of course that's possible, if you think otherwise, provide evidence.

I have god like genetics to burn fat and build muscle compared to you

yet..I have to diet and do cardio and naturally cannot get as shredded as you ....


yet you manage .... maybe you are smarter

or maybe you are absolutely full of shit

[wavelength]

BTW, I asked one of the top experts in the field of contest prep what he thought about my method (I asked if he thought it was possible to get into my condition with it):

I love the way you look. Obviously the answer (or you would not have asked) is yes..you can get into that type of shape. I am sure, to some degree that genetics has something to do with it. Are you SURE 100% you are not using my supplements?! On a serious note, the body is what it is...if you are getting results like THAT, wow, dont change a thing. You dont need my advice. Seriously, you look great.

Thanks a lot Chris, the purpose of my question was to find out how an expert would rate the possibility of getting in this kind of shape with the method I used. I obviously don't think I'm lying, but I'm accused of it all the time.

That ok. Who cares what people really think. I never listen to the herd...but I am lways open to advice and opnions from others. I know people in the middel east who eat one meal a day, ripped full etc...AND have the energy to train hard for an hour a day...so there..

[wavelength]

yet..I have to diet and do cardio and naturally cannot get as shredded as you ....

How do you know that exactly? What method did you use to determine that?

[Cleanest Natural]

BTW, I asked one of the top experts in the field of contest prep what he thought about my method (I asked if he thought it was possible to get into my condition with it):

he was being polite to you

did you notice that the very first thing he asks you is : " are you sure you are not using any SUPPLEMENTS  "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Aceto knows fully well you cannot get that shredded without burners let alone on icecream and porkchops

[wavelength]

he was being polite to you

did you notice that the very first thing he asks you is : " are you sure you are not using any SUPPLEMENTS  "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Aceto knows fully well you cannot get that shredded without burners let alone on icecream and porkchops

He also wrote me a PM saying the same thing.
He was joking about his fat burner (I think the mods changed it to "SUPPLEMENTS" afterwards because people kept complaining about his ads), because that's what he is trying to promote.

I also asked Dave Palumbo, he also agreed that it's easily possible.

[affeman]

he was being polite to you

did you notice that the very first thing he asks you is : " are you sure you are not using any SUPPLEMENTS  "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Aceto knows fully well you cannot get that shredded without burners let alone on icecream and porkchops

Don't think Wavelength has even stated somewhere that he wouldn't use any chemicals?

[wavelength]

Don't think Wavelength has even stated somewhere that he wouldn't use any chemicals?

Yes I have multiple times. I'm a lifetime natural and have also never used a fat burner in my life.

[Deicide]

What does "calling me out" mean? I provided all evidence I can provide, I won't go 24h on camera to make my point. Anyone with half a brain knows that most restrictions applied in traditional bodybuilding diets are completely unnecessary. I can guarantee you that you would get in the same condition easily following the same rules.

Can you repeat the WLDP?

[wavelength]

Here is Dave Palumbos answer (not very flattering and I don't agree with the "ideal" part, but still):

Sure it's possible. It's not ideal and you seem to be very under-muscled.

[Fatpanda]

i can understand seva's disbelief.

if it were anyone else on getbig i'd call them out on this, but i think wave is an honourable man and would not lie.

wave, to help me get this straight i have a few questions, if i may:

1. how many calories a day where you eating - every day for a week if possible?
2. what were the macronutrient ratios like?
3. what job do you do?
4. are you stating you go into that condition without cardio or weights of any kind - i include long walks and bicyle riding as cardio by the way.
5. do you drink coffee? soda etc

thanks

[Fatpanda]

Here is Dave Palumbos answer (not very flattering and I don't agree with the "ideal" part, but still):

well science backs that once you reach the correct protein amount daily - it does not matter where the rest of the nutrients come from ( in terms of reducing bodyfat - not necessarily health). However you must have a very small appetite to be at that level of conditioning so often.

[wavelength]

i can understand seva's disbelief.

if it were anyone else on getbig i'd call them out on this, but i think wave is an honourable man and would not lie.

wave, to help me get this straight i have a few questions, if i may:

1. how many calories a day where you eating - every day for a week if possible?
2. what were the macronutrient ratios like?
3. what job do you do?
4. are you stating you go into that condition without cardio or weights of any kind - i include long walks and bicyle riding as cardio by the way.
5. do you drink coffee? soda etc

thanks

1. about 1800 on weekdays and maybe double that on sundays
2. 1g protein per lb of LBM. I don't know about fat/carb ratio, I didn't watch it.
3. office job.
4. I did anaerobic training of course but no cardio. No sports other than the weight training.
5. I drink coke zero or diet coke for lunch, that's all. Couldn't care less if it would come without caffeine.

[affeman]

How do you have so much time to cook everyday?

[wavelength]

well science backs that once you reach the correct protein amount daily - it does not matter where the rest of the nutrients come from ( in terms of reducing bodyfat - not necessarily health). However you must have a very small appetite to be at that level of conditioning so often.

What do you mean with so often? It was once in 2008 and once in 2009 (now).

[wavelength]

How do you have so much time to cook everyday?

I don't, that was only last week because of the sodium restriction.

[Fatpanda]

1. about 1800 on weekdays and maybe double that on sundays
2. 1g protein per lb of LBM. I don't know about fat/carb ratio, I didn't watch it.
3. office job.
4. I did anaerobic training of course but no cardio. No sports other than the weight training.
5. I drink coke zero or diet coke for lunch, that's all. Couldn't care less if it would come without caffeine.

so you took in around 140g of protein a day is this correct ?

how can you know your calorie level if you did not count carbs/fat levels dailly ?

what did your workouts look like if you had those injuries ? sets/reps/exercises?

cheers.

[saucetradomous]

1800 calories is crazy low

[wavelength]

Another top level nutritionist, Alan Aragon, also agrees 100% that the 3 simple rules of protein intake, rate of weight loss, and weight training are sufficient for fat loss. Apparently all people with less than half a brain.

[Fatpanda]

What do you mean with so often? It was once in 2008 and once in 2009 (now).

what did you look like when you wern't in that condition ?

its difficult to believe you put on any real size if you are able to get into that level of conditioning so easily.

[wavelength]

so you took in around 140g of protein a day is this correct ?

I would say in the range of 130-160. It's not that exact.

how can you know your calorie level if you did not count carbs/fat levels dailly ?

Experience. Day-to-day variations are possible of course. When I talk about calories it's only estimates. When my rate of weight loss was not where it should be, I adjusted intake the next week.

what did your workouts look like if you had those injuries ? sets/reps/exercises?

Just had to work around the pain on some exercises and reduce intensity somewhat. Other than that, simple split training, 8-12 reps. Basic exercises. I also have a complete training log besides my nutritional log.

[spinnis]

my 800+ kcal Wavelenght approved dinner.

Chicken wing, rice, noodles, hamburger dressing and pepsi max in my new "ice cup"  










The "ice cup" is probably one of the best things ever,
Keeps your drink ICE COLD for 2+ hours in a WARM room.

[wavelength]

1800 calories is crazy low

Not really if you add in the pig-out day. But I'm not very physically active and I'm a tiny tit, so...

[wavelength]

what did you look like when you wern't in that condition ?

its difficult to believe you put on any real size if you are able to get into that level of conditioning so easily.

Beginning of this year I looked a lot worse due to 3 months of layoff.
I didn't really put on size in 2009, just gained back what I had in 2008 (which wasn't much anyway).

And it was a 6 month, very slow recompositioning process. It was easy in terms of convenience, not in terms of speed.

[wavelength]

my 800+ kcal Wavelenght approved dinner.

Chicken wing, rice, noodles, hamburger dressing and pepsi max in my new "ice cup"  

The "ice cup" is probably one of the best things ever,
Keeps your drink ICE COLD for 2+ hours in a WARM room.

Hahaha, but where is the meat? (edit: ah just saw it)
And you even managed to misspell my name in the pic, it's obviously a Swede original.

[Cleanest Natural]

you are austrian yes ?

did you live in US ?