To all those laughing at Adonis for his method ...

[Cleanest Natural]

So THATs how TA got so rich!  

can you imagine when word gets around town that Sebastian is running diets with pizza gourmet food and icecream ?

I'll hire 10 secretaries to deal with mile long lines of people hahahahahahaha

[liltacobell]

My Macros change on a daily basis.

For instance, yesterday I baked Peppermint Chocolate Cookies and made Italian Sausage Pizza with Fontina cheese, Mozzarella, Parmesan, Basil, Tomatoes.  We fermented the crust for 36 hours.  I also had some Greek Yogurt with Raspberries.

I have no clue what the Macros are nor do I worry.


Today, I will have totally different Macros depending on whatever I cook or decide to pick up.  My macros always change.

what diff does it make what type of cheese or how long you fermeted you crust?? seriously...my point is you always pretty much look the same...?? i wont lie i eat pretty bad and still stay in shape, but what does your mossarellam, basil, tomatoe or fermentation have to do with anything?  

[wavelength]

YOU STOP BURNING FAT !

your body doensn't know you diet...he only knows he's getting little food..so he goes into starvation mode

starts holding on to fat in order to be able to eat itself when it starves or there's no food

defense mechanism

all my life I thought that in order to burn fat you gotta run a glycogen deficit in order to trick the body into using subcutaneous fat as fuel for cardio and workouts

when it shuts down, reload with carbs and glycogen , it starts the metab again and so on ...

The body doesn't go into "starvation mode" on a small deficit that provides rates of weight loss of about 1-2 lbs / week.

[Cleanest Natural]

Here's the method: stay at a certain deficit for at least 4 weeks. If weight loss stalls in those complete 4 weeks, slightly reduce. With this method, I only had to adjust one single time on my last diet.

As I said, controlled studies show a pretty constant rate of weight loss on a certain deficit until maintenance is reached again.

my fucking study on myself and hundred of clients and athletes show otherwise

[The True Adonis]

so you don't count calories but you "KNOW" you are running in a deficit lool



FUCKING TEACH ME BRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF I PUT MY CLIENTS ON PIZZA AND ICECREAM I'LL BE THE RICHEST FUCKING NUTRITIONIST WHO EVER LIVED  

Actually you wouldn`t.  If they had any sense in the first place, once they realize that they can eat whatever they want with no confusion or gimmickry, they will forget you ever existed.

[Cleanest Natural]

The body doesn't go into "starvation mode" on a small deficit that provides rates of weight loss of about 1-2 lbs / week.

well maybe I'm fucked up and so are my clients and you and adonis are fucking human fatburning machines lol

[Deicide]

what diff does it make what type of cheese or how long you fermeted you crust?? seriously...my point is you always pretty much look the same...?? i wont lie i eat pretty bad and still stay in shape, but what does your mossarellam, basil, tomatoe or fermentation have to do with anything?  

TA is Duke graduate with unlimited funds.

[The True Adonis]

what diff does it make what type of cheese or how long you fermeted you crust?? seriously...my point is you always pretty much look the same...?? i wont lie i eat pretty bad and still stay in shape, but what does your mossarellam, basil, tomatoe or fermentation have to do with anything?  

Points to the direction that my Macros vary on a constant basis and I pay no caution to them whatsoever.

If I were to use say, Feta Cheese on a crust that did not ferment so long, the entire composition of the Pizza would be entirely different. Protein, fat, carbs as well as taste!

[Cleanest Natural]

Actually you wouldn`t.  If they had any sense in the first place, once they realize that they can eat whatever they want with no confusion or gimmickry, they will forget you ever existed.

how can you be both stupid AND arogant ?

it's a tough combo honestly

[wavelength]

my fucking study on myself and hundred of clients and athletes show otherwise

That's fine but no prove that it's the only method that works. Mine obviously works too (if we for once assume I'm not a liar). I repeat my challenge to each and every getbigger:

I will delete my account if you follow the described rules and do not get ripped.

[DK II]

Here's the method: stay at a certain deficit for at least 4 weeks. If weight loss stalls in those complete 4 weeks, slightly reduce. With this method, I only had to adjust one single time on my last diet.

As I said, controlled studies show a pretty constant rate of weight loss on a certain deficit until maintenance is reached again.

What do you do after let's say 12 weeks? Reduce even more? You'll end up starving yourself to death, there's no fucking way you can train right and also not lose muscle by reducing your calories every few weeks.

[DK II]

how can you be both stupid AND arogant ?

it's a tough combo honestly

Sebastian, i never thought i could have the same opinion as you, but today you speak right out of my heart.

Team Love approved.

[Cleanest Natural]

What do you do after let's say 12 weeks? Reduce even more? You'll end up starving yourself to death, there's no fucking way you can train right and also not lose muscle by reducing your calories every few weeks.

maybe wavelength is special cause I would fucking die on 1500 clories ...under 2000 is starvation central

but maybe he used to be a touareg in a diff life

[Deicide]

TA=Duke Graduate with unlimited cash

[Cleanest Natural]

Sebastian, i never thought i could have the same opinion as you, but today you speak right out of my heart.

Team Love approved.

don't hold your breath

I'm on roids so I rage a lot  

[liltacobell]

Points to the direction that my Macros vary on a constant basis and I pay no caution to them whatsoever.

If I were to use say, Feta Cheese on a crust that did not ferment so long, the entire composition of the Pizza would be entirely different. Protein, fat, carbs as well as taste!

uhhh...ok dickhead, but just previously you were talking about a certain caloric intake per week day vs week end....that has nothing to do macro....just as your post said....you were at a certain caloric intake?? dont matter if you eat feta or gouda or bobchickarilla....ass fuck!

[DK II]

maybe wavelength is special cause I would fucking die on 1500 clories ...under 2000 is starvation central

but maybe he used to be a touareg in a diff life

his "2 whey shakes then chinese buffet"-diet would send me to the hospital in less than a week.

i can't see how he defends this diet so hard, even if it works for fatloss in the first few weeks, no one can live on whey shakes and only ONE solid meal per day.

[lvtolft]

I think we all understand the concept, but how you are saying it is deceiving.  As long as you stay in a caloric deficit AND have 1 gram of protein per pound, you can eat whatever you want.  To stay in a caloric deficit without any cardio, what you can eat then becomes limited.

TA saying he eats cookies and pizza is probably not false, but he is eat 1 cookie or 1 slice of pizza.  It is not like he is eating the whole pizza or a dozen cookies.

Regardless, you still have to watch what you eat and you will still be hungry in order to lower your bodyfat.

[The True Adonis]

how can you be both stupid AND arogant ?

it's a tough combo honestly

Its easy if you try.  I hope one day you can join us and the world will be as one.

[wavelength]

What do you do after let's say 12 weeks? Reduce even more? You'll end up starving yourself to death, there's no fucking way you can train right and also not lose muscle by reducing your calories every few weeks.

You don't have to do that. I only had to reduce once for my previous diet.
People overreact when weight loss stalls for one or two weeks. Especially when the initial loss of water weight stops.

Or they simply eat more than they thought in the first place.

You must create a deficit in any case.

[DK II]

don't hold your breath

I'm on roids so I rage a lot  

i'm sick of the fighting, you can rage as much as you want though.  

Its easy if you try.  I hope one day you can join us and the world will be as one.

[DK II]

You don't have to do that. I only had to reduce once for my previous diet.
People overreact when weight loss stalls for one or two weeks. Especially when the initial loss of water weight stops.

Or they simply eat more than they thought in the first place.

You must create a deficit in any case.

by biking 16 miles ed for example? It also works your heart and legs, very healthy. Much healthier than chinese buffet, for instance.

[wavelength]

his "2 whey shakes then chinese buffet"-diet would send me to the hospital in less than a week.

i can't see how he defends this diet so hard, even if it works for fatloss in the first few weeks, no one can live on whey shakes and only ONE solid meal per day.

Of course you can, the body adapts quickly. But that is also not the point of my method. You can just as well split your meals in any way you want. It's a convenience factor, nothing else. What is most convenient for me will probably not be for you.

[Cleanest Natural]

Its easy if you try.  I hope one day you can join us and the world will be as one.

sorry fella

I could never be sTupid AND arogant

[wavelength]

by biking 16 miles ed for example? It also works your heart and legs, very healthy. Much healthier than chinese buffet, for instance.

Of course, cardio has benefits and there is no reason not to do it if you want to reap those benefits. However it is not the topic at hand.