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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #75 on: July 08, 2009, 08:43:30 PM »

"Panhandling license"?  That's just absurd.  The city trying to raise revenue by sanctioning panhandling.  Now I've seen everything.  ::)
Well what it does is discourage the practice because it takes some effort, a lot actually, to get a pan handling license.  Think of it like a poll tax or other similar Jim Crowesque practices.  Its a veiled preventative measure that attempts to dissuade the practice and gives cops the ability to remove the majority who do not have a license and gives them great bullying power to anyone they "think" is panhandling.  


It has been the subject of great controversy as great abuses have been carried out with these type of laws.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #76 on: July 08, 2009, 08:54:14 PM »
Well what it does is discourage the practice because it takes some effort, a lot actually, to get a pan handling license.  Think of it like a poll tax or other similar Jim Crowesque practices.  Its a veiled preventative measure that attempts to dissuade the practice and gives cops the ability to remove the majority who do not have a license and gives them great bullying power to anyone they "think" is panhandling.  


It has been the subject of great controversy as great abuses have been carried out with these type of laws.



They just need to outlaw it completely.  It's a public nuisance at best, and a safety hazard at worst.
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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2009, 08:58:29 PM »
I never give money directly to homeless people, but support two charities that I find do important and good work: www.shelter.org.uk/ which helps homeless people find homes and people about to become homeless from loosing theirs and Restos du Coeur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restaurants_du_Cœur  which feeds the needy. I support them via monthly salary deductions or via a monthly standing order from my account., so I don't have to think about it. I sometimes buy the magazines, which are produced by homeless and unemployed and sold by them in the street.

Occasionally when I see a homeless person in front of a super market I ask them whether they are hungry and would like to have a sandwich - if they say yes (which they rarely do) I buy them one in the shop. If they ask for money I tell them how to get in touch with the charities above.

One "approach" popular in Europe which really annoys me are people in train stations telling you that they lost their wallet and are collecting money to buy a ticket home. Every time one of them approaches me, I ask how much money they are missing for their ticket. I then tell them that I don't have any cash on me, but am happy to go to a ticket machine with them and buy the ticket for them with my credit card if they give me the cash they have already collected. Surprisingly none of them has ever accepted that offer...




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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #78 on: July 08, 2009, 09:01:51 PM »
I then tell them that I don't have any cash on me, but am happy to go to a ticket machine with them and buy the ticket for them with my credit card if they give me the cash they have already collected. Surprisingly none of them has ever accepted that offer...







That's similar to how I handle sidewalk panhandlers when I'm a pedestrian...  I say "I don't carry cash, do you take American Express?"
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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2009, 09:22:41 PM »
Opinions on the homeless....


yes...nuff said

if u dont u r a douche..

i wont be reading this thread

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #80 on: July 08, 2009, 11:35:03 PM »

yes...nuff said


If you give these people money in the streets, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #81 on: July 08, 2009, 11:47:37 PM »
Terrible thing to be homeless.

Yes I give, but only to native homless people as they get the least help. I like the ones with quiet dignity who just sit quietly witha cup head bowed, when they hear teh jingle theyseem so appreciative of it.

My dad every winter buys lots of gloves, hats thermal vests etc and gives them to the hostels to give out free.

wow, that's great.

Over here, we have the tendency of people begging to up their welfare check. If it's not embarassing for you, you can make good money begging in some german cities. And somehow, the people's attitude has changed, and now there are quite a lot of Non-homeless people begging.

I see one guy in front of a supermarket on the other end of the city ed, decent clothes, begging only from 11 to 17, when the old folks and moms go shopping.
You can see the guy very often in quite good clothing on the other end of town, shopping like a normal person.
I bet he makes 50 to 100 Euros ed, that's not bad at all, and he pays no taxes as well.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2009, 04:53:35 AM »

One "approach" popular in Europe which really annoys me are people in train stations telling you that they lost their wallet and are collecting money to buy a ticket home. Every time one of them approaches me, I ask how much money they are missing for their ticket. I then tell them that I don't have any cash on me, but am happy to go to a ticket machine with them and buy the ticket for them with my credit card if they give me the cash they have already collected. Surprisingly none of them has ever accepted that offer...





I think thats a great approach!  I have had people try and pull that scam on me too, or their car has just run out of gas and they need gas money.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2009, 04:59:53 AM »
Yes.  I give as much as I can if they come up to me.  At least they won`t waste it on Nitric Oxide Supplements and Protein powder.




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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2009, 05:21:38 AM »
I eventually start caring about homeless when I reached all of my goals and got no worries myself anymore.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2009, 05:23:46 AM »
i give your mom something sometimes.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2009, 06:03:23 AM »
I saw a guy at a street corner with an "I want work" sign at 6:45 am, still pretty dark out.  I was tempted to give him a day's work just for his motivation, but it was going to be a 1 man day.  I still might if I see him there again and have enough to do. 

Lunatics, aggressive pan handlers, stage 3 syphilis sufferers, and substance abusers get the back of my hand.  If they're sober, sane, and polite, it depends on my mood and the fickle finger of fate.

I went to Nogales once and most whites there seemed to get a kick out of throwing spare coins down to the Mexicans who were gathered under the balcony of the second story bar with their arms outstretched bleating 'pleeeeese' over and over.  I didn't hang around in Nogales too long.  :-X

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2009, 06:39:57 AM »
Homelessness is a choice. Unfortunately, I can't support bad decisions.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #88 on: July 09, 2009, 06:44:19 AM »

If you give these people money in the streets, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

dont give a flying fuck mang...

if i make someone out there smile for a second...whether they r buying drugs or drinking....i dont care...

i made em smile....which is better than crying in a corner.....i AM NOT GOD NOR DO I BELIEVE IN 1...ya see...religion is the scurge of empathy...

i forgoe that....a smile is better than a frown anyday...not my place to judge...

...for that matter...not yours either
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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #89 on: July 09, 2009, 06:47:06 AM »
i give your mom something sometimes.
what do you give her, Mars?

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #90 on: July 09, 2009, 06:50:45 AM »
dont give a flying fuck mang...

if i make someone out there smile for a second...whether they r buying drugs or drinking....i dont care...

i made em smile....which is better than crying in a corner.....i AM NOT GOD NOR DO I BELIEVE IN 1...ya see...religion is the scurge of empathy...

i forgoe that....a smile is better than a frown anyday...not my place to judge...

...for that matter...not yours either

You're helping you, though. You understand this, right?

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #91 on: July 09, 2009, 06:53:17 AM »
I never give to the homeless.  Where I live and work, the homeless are the same people who have been begging for the last 2-4 years in the exact same spot.  They don't do anything.  There's one black guy who uses the same line over and over and over...."will you please help me get a meal from McDonalds?"

Imagine saying that line over and over every monday through friday for years.  He would be better off working at McDonalds if he likes it so much.  Fuck the homeless.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #92 on: July 09, 2009, 06:55:25 AM »
You're helping you, though. You understand this, right?


EVERY good deed has selfishnes implied...

do i get this....YES....


does it make the good deed insignificant??

hmmmmm?    did it serve its purpose....look mang....
you can sit here and dicksuss all them worlds problems....blah blah...
point...in the very end....results matter....about 100000000000000000000000 000 people on this planet...discussing....
2 of em actually give...

pay up...or shuit the fuck up man...cause u r just another cheapo looking for an excuse..
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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #93 on: July 09, 2009, 06:58:10 AM »
I never give to the homeless.  Where I live and work, the homeless are the same people who have been begging for the last 2-4 years in the exact same spot.  They don't do anything.  There's one black guy who uses the same line over and over and over...."will you please help me get a meal from McDonalds?"

Imagine saying that line over and over every monday through friday for years.  He would be better off working at McDonalds if he likes it so much.  Fuck the homeless.
The homeless get to relax and enjoy the weekend?

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #94 on: July 09, 2009, 07:03:01 AM »
The homeless get to relax and enjoy the weekend?

I work in downtown Chicago which has so many less people on weekends walking around that I'm sure he just goes to another neighborhood.  On Saturday and Sunday he might switch it up and say "Will you please help me get a meal at Wendy's" instead. 

I'm thinking of just humiliating this guy by bringing him weird shit every day, like a clown cone from Baskin Robbins or one of those big smiley face cookies.  I might also try giving him some dvd's i don't want too, or just some extra white copy paper.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2009, 07:15:23 AM »
I see the same lady everyday on the corner of the interstate.  She parks her camaro under the bridge. ;D  It's funny, they kinda have a camp back there, when one gets tired (meth wears off?) the other hold up the sign.  Perhaps they pool their money?

I often wonder what kind of life these people live? 
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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2009, 07:17:26 AM »
dballin and tapeworm - you seem lkike good guys

i dont mind people not giving to homelss people its a personal choice - but i hate people abusinmg them. when im in town tomorro im def giving some to homeless people

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2009, 07:39:20 AM »

EVERY good deed has selfishnes implied...

do i get this....YES....


does it make the good deed insignificant??

hmmmmm?    did it serve its purpose....look mang....
you can sit here and dicksuss all them worlds problems....blah blah...
point...in the very end....results matter....about 100000000000000000000000 000 people on this planet...discussing....
2 of em actually give...

pay up...or shuit the fuck up man...cause u r just another cheapo looking for an excuse..

I'm sure your wonderful Peter Pan-perspective is making the world a better place.

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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2009, 07:41:51 AM »
I'm sure your wonderful Peter Pan-perspective is making the world a better place.

o i'm sure your lack there of is...



fackin idiot....

between the 2 of us....which 1 helps people more??

as i said..


fucking idiot..
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Re: Do you give to homeless people?
« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2009, 07:45:15 AM »
dballin and tapeworm - you seem lkike good guys

i dont mind people not giving to homelss people its a personal choice - but i hate people abusinmg them. when im in town tomorro im def giving some to homeless people

what about homeless people abusing the system -- asking for handouts??

should bast get handouts too cause he doesnt have a job?

if I see a homeless person i give them money I just throw it one the ground:
- one way or another that lazy fuck will work for my money just as I do mine...not like he has bills to pay, he;s going to get a colt45, a 20rock, and a snickers bar - pick up that change if you wanna get fckd up on my dime

-day in day out these fucks can travel back to the same location and hound people for money, look innocent, hungry.......they would rob you blind if you left your car unlocked or dropped your wallet........I do not want to catch hepatitis C off some fuck cause I gave him 20cents...pick the shit up off the ground, my liver isnt gonna die like yours bub