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Depression ... Does this exist?
« on: July 08, 2009, 05:50:55 PM »
Does this exist?

I cant get my head around the whole idea of it.

Or is it exaccerbated by medication other factors etc?

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Re: Depression
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 05:52:19 PM »
i listened to some guy on dennis miller's show whose kid had depression.

from what his kid went through, it seems very real.

but there's a difference between being depressed because you're ugly, don't get laid, broke, etc. and having clinical depression (wanting to kill yourself because you fail at some simple tasks, etc.)
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Re: Depression
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 05:53:18 PM »
Is that what clinical depression is?

Too mnay people i know say they are depressed - seem fine to me just dont work take a tablet walk about in pyjamas etc

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Re: Depression
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 05:54:02 PM »
Does this exist?

I cant get my head around the whole idea of it.

Or is it exaccerbated by medication other factors etc?

Sure it exist, but almost every mental state that differs radically from what one is used to experiencing is usually difficult to wrap ones head around.

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Re: Depression
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 05:58:04 PM »
Causes of Depression:

Depression has no single cause; often, it results from a combination of things. You may have no idea why depression has struck you.
Whatever its cause, depression is not just a state of mind.
It is related to physical changes in the brain, and connected to an imbalance of a type of chemical that carries signals in your brain and nerves. These chemicals are called neurotransmitters.


Some of the more common factors involved in depression are:

 Family history. Genetics play an important part in depression. It can run in families for generations.

 Trauma and stress. Things like financial problems, the breakup of a relationship, or the death of a loved one can bring on depression. You can become depressed after changes in your life, like starting a new job, graduating from school, or getting married.

 Pessimistic personality. People who have low self-esteem and a negative outlook are at higher risk of becoming depressed. These traits may actually be caused by low-level depression (called dysthymia).

 Physical conditions. Serious medical conditions like heart disease, cancer, and HIV can contribute to depression, partly because of the physical weakness and stress they bring on. Depression can make medical conditions worse, since it weakens the immune system and can make pain harder to bear. In some cases, depression can be caused by medications used to treat medical conditions.

 Other psychological disorders. Anxiety disorders, eating disorders, schizophrenia, and (especially) substance abuse often appear along with depression.


http://www.depression.com/causes_of_depression.html

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Re: Depression
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 05:58:10 PM »
Is that what clinical depression is?

Too mnay people i know say they are depressed - seem fine to me just dont work take a tablet walk about in pyjamas etc

well this guy was saying his son had a bad game in little league baseball and tried poisoning himself when he came home because he thought his dad was disappointed in him.

shit like that.
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Re: Depression
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 05:59:16 PM »
Im talking to a girl atm who said she is depressed.

I asked you you physically work tomorrow.

She asaid yes.

I said would you like to?

Her reply, yes.

Then she said after a week or so she literally wouldntbe able to drag herself out of bed.

bemuses me

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Re: Depression
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 06:00:33 PM »
Sure it exist, but almost every mental state that differs radically from what one is used to experiencing is usually difficult to wrap ones head around.

every mental state that differs radically from what one is used to experiencing = Debussey

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Re: Depression
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 06:02:57 PM »
i had bad depression for a while. i then started taking lexapro (non narcotic), and started drinking. i am fine now ;D

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Re: Depression
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2009, 06:03:27 PM »
every mental state that differs radically from what one is used to experiencing = Debussey

 ;D

 >:( :'(

Having a retarded brain, being perpetually pumped full of drugs and having an abusive nurse does not help the brain pump out mental states normally seen in the middle of the bell curve :-X

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Re: Depression
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2009, 06:10:24 PM »
 :)

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Re: Depression
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2009, 06:58:23 PM »
of course it exists, funny question

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Re: Depression
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2009, 07:00:14 PM »
of course it exists, funny question

Do you get depressed when somebody calls you a freakin' liar? ;D

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Re: Depression
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 07:02:08 PM »
Do you get depressed when somebody calls you a freakin' liar? ;D

nah fortunally I never had that affliction but I know people who do and it's not a state you want to be in

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Re: Depression
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2009, 07:03:21 PM »
nah fortunally I never had that affliction but I know people who do and it's not a state you want to be in

In all seriousness, depression is a serious thing that should not be taken lightly.

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Re: Depression
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 07:05:48 PM »
It exists, but i'd say 50% of people taking anti depressants don't really need them. We live in a chemical world. Little bit of stress.......take a pill for it.
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Re: Depression
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 07:07:06 PM »
cry us a river
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Re: Depression
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 07:07:51 PM »
It exists, but i'd say 50% of people taking anti depressants don't really need them. We live in a chemical world. Little bit of stress.......take a pill for it.

If you have full blown depression, believe me, you will take every drug available to get out of it.
And you should, at least as a temporary measure to avoid the worst.

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Re: Depression
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 07:12:09 PM »
It exists, but i'd say 50% of people taking anti depressants don't really need them. We live in a chemical world. Little bit of stress.......take a pill for it.

Debussey thinks your far off base here. Perhaps not in the most pill-happy societies, but in many countries where the usage of prescription drugs = more restrictive (like in Norway).

The problem is that people who are depressed often can't just "think themselves out of it". Many needs the meds just to be able to function so that they can go into therapy, and even if a person JUST goes for therapy to get better the road to recovery is still often very long.

If therapy will help you heal your depression in 6-12 months, you've still been wasting that time being depressed. If somebody can get well while not feeling like shit due to meds, it = better. No reason spending your precious hours feeling bad if you can avoid it.

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Re: Depression
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2009, 07:12:43 PM »
If you have full blown depression, believe me, you will take every drug available to get out of it.
And you should, at least as a temporary measure to avoid the worst.

I agree with that.

But it's more about the 12 year old kids who are being diagnosed with depression/anti depressant drugs. The average age of a person with depression is getting younger and younger. I guess you sometimes wonder how/why a 12 year old can suffer from depression.....
No doubt about it...

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Re: Depression
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2009, 07:14:52 PM »
I agree with that.

But it's more about the 12 year old kids who are being diagnosed with depression/anti depressant drugs. The average age of a person with depression is getting younger and younger. I guess you sometimes wonder how/why a 12 year old can suffer from depression.....

Nah, many kids suffers from depression, and they are even less likely to "think themselves out of it". It's just that the problem of depression in children = not studied properly until the last few decades (if what Debussey has read about the subject is correct).

They should not be forced to be depressed while waiting to heal in therapy as long as the pills does not create serious side effects.

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Re: Depression
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2009, 07:38:52 PM »
Does this exist?

I cant get my head around the whole idea of it.

Or is it exaccerbated by medication other factors etc?

i dont know, does anxiety exist? panic attacks?

if you have ever experience Major depressive disorder you would realize that it permeates ones life. Life is joyless, grey, sleep is terrible, pain in intolerable, digestion is impaired etc etc...

it kills more people then most chronic conditions.

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Re: Depression
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2009, 07:43:20 PM »
Word of advice to anyone over 30 who develops "depression":  before you let them put you on an SSRI or other b/s, get your testosterone levels checked, and try test replacement first.
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Re: Depression
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2009, 07:44:09 PM »
Word of advice to anyone over 30 who develops "depression":  before you let them put you on an SSRI or other b/s, get your testosterone levels checked, and try test replacement first.


Or they could just become a Xanor/Xanax addict! :D

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Re: Depression
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2009, 07:47:57 PM »
Cure: