Author Topic: Can Muslims have alcohol on their skin ??? (Read 18096 times)

wavelength · « **Reply #150 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:29:28 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 11, 2009, 01:20:59 PM

You didn`t make any argument of the sort at all. Read Special and general Relativity by Einstein if you want to learn more about Space Time. Science always debunks the "spiritual". There is NOTHING "spiritual" about Space Time and have no clue why you posit otherwise. There are MANY scientists devoted solely to explaining away YOUR spiritualism.

You need to define the "spiritual". You have yet to do so.

You cannot make the leap in logic as you do, to make any argument for the Supernatural or spiritual or the existence for a god. It makes zero sense whatsoever.

You are "backdooring" because we may lack the technology at this time to accurately test certain hypothesis.

As I said, it's a matter of principle, the theory of relativity deals only with certain scientific aspects of space and time just as newtonian physics before and quantum mechanics afterwards. Scientists may be devoted to "explain away" spirituality, in this case they are mislead in thinking they still act within the realm of science though. I did not make a leap of logic at all, my argument was solely based on simple logic. Your last statement was already adressed.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #151 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:30:51 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on July 11, 2009, 01:10:02 PM

Well, about the possibility of anything spiritual in general and particularly what body of thought would be needed to make statements on the subject.
If we have agreed upon the fact that such topics can only be discussed in the philosophic realm, one could of course argue (philosophically) for or against e.g. the existence of God, etc. I just made an argument against the notion that science would provide any evidence for or against the spiritual, which clearly it cannot.

I don`t understand why you would think that a philosophic topic eludes Science and free from rationality. This makes no sense at all. You want there to be something that can`t be explained so you can claim it transcends Science by default. That is an impossible leap in logic to automatically attribute something we are still learning about as being above our means to do so.

If you told George Washington that wars will be fought in the skies with weapons capable of killing hundred of thousands and millions of people at the drop of a hat, he would give you the blankest of stares and probably accuse you of eating Lead-laden rations.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (Clarke's third law)

The True Adonis · « **Reply #152 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:34:05 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on July 11, 2009, 01:29:28 PM

As I said, it's a matter of principle, the theory of relativity deals only with certain scientific aspects of space and time just as newtonian physics before and quantum mechanics afterwards. Scientists may be devoted to "explain away" spirituality, in this case they are mislead in thinking they still act within the realm of science though. I did not make a leap of logic at all, my argument was solely based on simple logic. Your last statement was already adressed.

So you are claiming that "spirituality" is immune to reason, rationality and is incapable of being proven false? Again, define spirituality as you believe it to be. I don`t understand why you think it is off limits or unable to be proven false just because you think it. It makes no sense whatsoever.

wavelength · « **Reply #153 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:34:44 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 11, 2009, 01:30:51 PM

I don`t understand why you would think that a philosophic topic eludes Science and free from rationality. This makes no sense at all. You want there to be something that can`t be explained so you can claim it transcends Science by default. That is an impossible leap in logic to automatically attribute something we are still learning about as being above our means to do so.

I'm sorry but that was not my argument at all.

wavelength · « **Reply #154 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:37:35 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 11, 2009, 01:34:05 PM

So you are claiming that "spirituality" is immune to reason, rationality and is incapable of being proven false? Again, define spirituality as you believe it to be. I don`t understand why you think it is off limits or unable to be proven false just because you think it. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Of course not, philosophy is solely based on reason and rationality.
And of course it is capable of being proven false - philosophically, that is.
Nothing is off limits.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #155 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:38:31 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on July 11, 2009, 01:34:44 PM

I'm sorry but that was not my argument at all.

In one concise sentence, what is your argument? It has gotten so ambiguous and convoluted with our banter that whatever your point is has been lost in Space and in Time.

MONSTER_TRICEPS · « **Reply #156 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:40:15 PM »

The Master · « **Reply #157 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:40:47 PM »

Quote from: MONSTER_TRICEPS on July 11, 2009, 01:40:15 PM

DEbussey don't understand any of it either.

wavelength · « **Reply #158 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:50:25 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 11, 2009, 01:38:31 PM

In one concise sentence, what is your argument? It has gotten so ambiguous and convoluted with our banter that whatever your point is has been lost in Space and in Time.

Maybe then we should end it here because I could only repeat what I have already argued before.
When I first came to GB, I participated in a thread about the topic, which was much more elaborate:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=198162.0

In any case, I enjoyed the discussion.
I know that you are very outspoken on the topic, no problem to disagree I hope.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #159 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:54:44 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on July 11, 2009, 01:50:25 PM

Maybe then we should end it here because I could only repeat what I have already argued before.
When I first came to GB, I participated in a thread about the topic, which was much more elaborate:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=198162.0

In any case, I enjoyed the discussion.
I know that you are very outspoken on the topic, no problem to disagree I hope.

Of course not! People always take my sometimes direct manner of posting as somehow as an immediate attack. I am glad that you did not my friend. I will check out that thread and see if it offers any insight.

Mars · « **Reply #160 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:02:08 PM »

The Master · « **Reply #161 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:03:08 PM »

Quote from: Mars on July 11, 2009, 02:02:08 PM

Do you understand anything of what these goofs = talking about?

The True Adonis · « **Reply #162 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:08:26 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on July 11, 2009, 02:03:08 PM

Do you understand anything of what these goofs = talking about?

Mars · « **Reply #163 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:22:53 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on July 11, 2009, 02:03:08 PM

Do you understand anything of what these goofs = talking about?

these are brainiacs lost on a bodybuilding board.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #164 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:26:37 PM »

Quote from: Mars on July 11, 2009, 02:22:53 PM

these are brainiacs lost on a bodybuilding board.

Mars how about some hot ladies pic to lighten them up?

Mars · « **Reply #165 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:31:59 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on July 11, 2009, 02:26:37 PM

Mars how about some hot ladies pic to lighten them up?

ron warned me not to post porn anymore dude.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #166 on:** July 11, 2009, 03:03:20 PM »

Quote from: ksa_triceps on July 11, 2009, 07:36:46 AM

who ever told you that doesn't know anything.

we use perfumes and they do have alcohol, how about alcohol wipes?? alcohol is forbidden to drink only!

bad body odor in general? i don't think so.. we clean ourselves five times a day for each prayer, not to mention the use of SOUP and water to clean our asses after taking a dump.

case dismissed!

LOL. I have a Muslim bud, and every time he has a drink he just shrugs and says he's a 'bad Muslim.' We love him, of course. Good dude. Got us 3 HRs today.

ironneck · « **Reply #167 on:** July 11, 2009, 03:10:19 PM »

i'm drinking a fine moskovskaya vodka redbull right now

wavelength · « **Reply #168 on:** July 11, 2009, 03:12:47 PM »

Quote from: ironneck on July 11, 2009, 03:10:19 PM

i'm drinking a fine moskovskaya vodka redbull right now

Ever tried this one?

haider · « **Reply #169 on:** July 11, 2009, 03:39:57 PM »

No, cuz it can absorb through your skin and intoxicate you. Same with pork. Must avoid contact at all costs!

On a serious note, I have never heard of this and can safely say that I (and oher muslims I know) have always used deodarents and colognes. I have heard other equally stupid stuff, however.

It could be that your friend is just not used to wearing deoderant. In general, middle-class or educated muslims have pretty good hygeine. This is due to the constant washing required for ritual prayers, and the general stance on cleanliness in the muslim religion, which includes regular removal of armpit and pubic hair.

3Dkiller · « **Reply #170 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:35:19 PM »

alcohol in deodorants are allowed to use.

arce1988 · « **Reply #171 on:** July 11, 2009, 10:39:16 PM »

I slam

Mars · « **Reply #172 on:** July 11, 2009, 11:55:28 PM »

Quote from: haider on July 11, 2009, 03:39:57 PM

No, cuz it can absorb through your skin and intoxicate you. Same with pork. Must avoid contact at all costs!

what a crock of shit.

BanksMcgee · « **Reply #173 on:** July 12, 2009, 03:28:17 AM »

Quote from: haider on July 11, 2009, 03:39:57 PM

This is due to the constant washing required for ritual prayers, and the general stance on cleanliness in the muslim religion, which includes regular removal of armpit and pubic hair.

Good ol' pubic hair........spend all those years wanting/trying to grow it to spend a lot of time shaving and trimming it up now. Irony at it's best.

pedro01 · « **Reply #174 on:** July 12, 2009, 08:13:49 AM »

Quote from: Okami on July 11, 2009, 09:53:54 AM

I thought muslims get to fuck 100 virgins when they die??

Sounds like a fucking chore to me.

Can't they throw in a few well-seasoned sluts ?