Flex Wheeler 1993 vs. 1998.

[Sherief Shalaby]

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[Parker]

1993 was his best yr...1998 was good, but his shape, sharpness was all there in 1993, then the car crash in 1994 made him want to over compensate.

[Cleanest Natural]

93 flex ...best bb past arnold

[io856]

93 flex ...best bb past arnold

Dorian 95 > *

[Parker]

Dorian 95 > *

Had Flex been his 1993 Arnold Classic shape, even ND would agree, Flex would have won.

[kiwiol]

Had Flex been his 1993 Arnold Classic shape, even ND would agree, Flex would have won.

No way. 1993 and 1995 Dorian destroys any version of Flex. He had too much muscle, size, thickness and hardness compared to Flex, who is narrow and had a weak rear lat spread (poor width).

[io856]

No way. 1993 and 1995 Dorian destroys any version of Flex. He had too much muscle, size, thickness and hardness compared to Flex, who is narrow and had a weak rear lat spread.

thanks for saving me the effort

[WillGrant]

No way. 1993 and 1995 Dorian destroys any version of Flex. He had too much muscle, size, thickness and hardness compared to Flex, who is narrow and had a weak rear lat spread (poor width).

hmmm bro , size does not equal a champion if it does not flow..Flex would of been the most geneticly gifted and visual looking bodybuilders in history..its a shame he landed in an era when freaky mass ruled.

[Immortal_Technique]

Good rear delts in '98 haha quite embarrasing now we know he was shooting shit into them.

[kiwiol]

hmmm bro , size does not equal a champion if it does not flow

I agree, but you can't say that about Dorian, who wasn't lacking in anything except for his biceps (and even then, only post-tear). Flex was maybe 10% off (or less) his 93 AC form in the 93 Mr Olympia and he himself said Dorian was "untouchable". Flex is "pretty" to look at in his 93 AC form, but has a lot of weaknesses - not much thickness from the sides (although he posed in such a way as to hide that defect), narrow shoulders, lats disappearing in the abs and thigh pose, lack of width in the rear lat spread and arms that were a little too big for his torso, although I'm just nitpicking there.

There's a reason Dorian dominated like no other Mr Olympia did and that was during what everyone agrees was the time when the standard of competition was at it's highest. He had too much of an edge in size, density, thickness and width for Flex to compete. That's why nearly all of the guys (except Nasser post 96) were defeated mentally before they even stepped onstage against him.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Good rear delts in '98 haha quite embarrasing now we know he was shooting shit into them.

yes i was going to write a note about this

[Cleanest Natural]

Dorian 95 > *

[WillGrant]

I agree, but you can't say that about Dorian, who wasn't lacking in anything except for his biceps (and even then, only post-tear). Flex was maybe 10% off (or less) his 93 AC form in the 93 Mr Olympia and he himself said Dorian was "untouchable". Flex is "pretty" to look at in his 93 AC form, but has a lot of weaknesses - not much thickness from the sides (although he posed in such a way as to hide that defect), narrow shoulders, lats disappearing in the abs and thigh pose, lack of width in the rear lat spread and arms that were a little too big for his torso, although I'm just nitpicking there.

There's a reason Dorian dominated like no other Mr Olympia did and that was during what everyone agrees was the time when the standard of competition was at it's highest. He had too much of an edge in size, density, thickness and width for Flex to compete. That's why nearly all of the guys (except Nasser post 96) were defeated mentally before they even stepped onstage against him.

You are indeed correct , I admire Dozza , his work ethic and drive is/was unmatched but comming from a perspective of the promotion of bodybuilding as to where it came from , its roots so to speak then Dorian would not win.

All you need to do is show someone who has nothing to do with bodybuilding both of there pics and there would be the answer , wow to kenny and yuck to dorian..

You call it "pretty" but this is what bodybuilding was based on , in the greek age where our "sport" began not mass at all costs..

Dorian winning a symerterry round at the olympia is as bad as havin a pms woman in charge of a nuke 

[kiwiol]

You are indeed correct , I admire Dozza , his work ethic and drive is/was unmatched but comming from a perspective of the promotion of bodybuilding as to where it came from , its roots so to speak then Dorian would not win.

All you need to do is show someone who has nothing to do with bodybuilding both of there pics and there would be the answer , wow to kenny and yuck to dorian..

You call it "pretty" but this is what bodybuilding was based on , in the greek age where our "sport" began not mass at all costs..

Dorian winning a symerterry round at the olympia is as bad as havin a pms woman in charge of a nuke 

Yes, Dorian vs Flex = apples vs oranges.

[WillGrant]

Yes, Dorian vs Flex = apples vs oranges.

Add to the fact im pissed as a death mute liolol

[Antony77]

You are indeed correct , I admire Dozza , his work ethic and drive is/was unmatched but comming from a perspective of the promotion of bodybuilding as to where it came from , its roots so to speak then Dorian would not win.

All you need to do is show someone who has nothing to do with bodybuilding both of there pics and there would be the answer , wow to kenny and yuck to dorian..

You call it "pretty" but this is what bodybuilding was based on , in the greek age where our "sport" began not mass at all costs..

Dorian winning a symerterry round at the olympia is as bad as havin a pms woman in charge of a nuke 

Yeah theres no way he should have won the symmetry round at all.

Dorians reign ended the days of the aesthetic physique, after that it was all about GH and mass. He was a pioneer of upping the dose but ended up pushing the sport in the wrong direction IMO, I miss the days of small waists and vacuum poses.

But then Dexter J did just win the O so I guess there is always hope.

[WillGrant]

Yeah theres no way he should have won the symmetry round at all.

Dorians reign ended the days of the aesthetic physique, after that it was all about GH and mass. He was a pioneer of upping the dose but ended up pushing the sport in the wrong direction IMO, I miss the days of small waists and vacuum poses.

But then Dexter J did just win the O so I guess there is always hope.

Dexter lacks that somthing special though , the man has payed his dues no doubt but to me he is damm to short to be the best built man in the world

[Antony77]

Dexter lacks that somthing special though , the man has payed his dues no doubt but to me he is damm to short to be the best built man in the world

I agree, but I choose to see his win as the start of something positive, and by that I mean the marking down of guys who's intestines are so swollen and enlarged that they look pregnant (yuck).

Hey a BB fan can dream....

[WillGrant]

I agree, but I choose to see his win as the start of something positive, and by that I mean the marking down of guys who's intestines are so swollen and enlarged that they look pregnant (yuck).

Hey a BB fan can dream....

Good post 

[Hulkster]

Dorian 95 > *

sorry, torn bi.

by definition, not dorian's, or anyone's, best ever..

dorian looked way better in 93 than in 95.

dorian 95

[MethodGNA]

kenny had some problems of his own.........

[Hulkster]

There's a reason Dorian dominated like no other Mr Olympia did

yes, when you have judges that say his torn bi 'made no difference', what do you expect?

he could have been 400 pounds and fat and the judges still would have looked the other way..

[Van_Bilderass]

Dorian winning a symerterry round at the olympia is as bad as havin a pms woman in charge of a nuke 

If by symmetry you mean aesthetics, then maybe you have a point (subjective). But symmetry isn't aesthetics really. Like kiwiol said Wheeler lacked some bodyparts and the symmetry wasn't great (arms oversized compared to torso for example). Block Wheeler's arms in a shot and you see his pecs and back are those of a middleweight's.