Boxing is dead

[Man of Steel]

Yes, MMA combines a lot of different disciplines, but most are highly proficient at one (maybe two).   I wouldn't say that 99% of MMA fighters have the boxing skills of a pro boxer, the wrestling skills or an Olympic wrestler, etc.....although, some are decent boxers, good wrestlers, great martial artists, etc....spin the combo however.  My other observation really has nothing to do with the truly great MMA fighters.....my observation is directed at the shopping mall badasses in Tap Out tees and stone cold glares and the ringside yuppy suits that swill boos talkin about "all I need is five f'kn minutes in the ring with GSP!!"  This is why MMA is highly popular now.....every badass can gather in one forum and talk about how badass they are.

[240 is Back]

3 days later...

I'm wondering how much mir's face is hurting today?

[spinnis]

What I don't like about MMA is that the fight usually ends up on the ground which I'm sure is very 'technical' but it's very boring to watch.

Boxing is often more paced, quick movements around the ring with lots of jabs and punches being traded, especially in the lighter weight divisions.

Thats because for your average joe, its hard to understand the skill that it takes to do something on the ground hence aot of people cant relate to it,
Thats why everyone who has tried out mma understands it and loves it..

Im sure is you trained mma for a few months you would have Whole new understanding


A few fighters always just stands up and Bang though

[lvtolft]

The martial arts skills that most of these fighters possess is very advanced.  I don't get how the boxing fans can argue that boxing requires more skill??  Also, if boxing is so much better, why don't boxing only specialist rarely win?

[The Master]

Yes, MMA combines a lot of different disciplines, but most are highly proficient at one (maybe two).   I wouldn't say that 99% of MMA fighters have the boxing skills of a pro boxer, the wrestling skills or an Olympic wrestler, etc.....although, some are decent boxers, good wrestlers, great martial artists, etc....spin the combo however.  My other observation really has nothing to do with the truly great MMA fighters.....my observation is directed at the shopping mall badasses in Tap Out tees and stone cold glares and the ringside yuppy suits that swill boos talkin about "all I need is five f'kn minutes in the ring with GSP!!"  This is why MMA is highly popular now.....every badass can gather in one forum and talk about how badass they are.

Pro boxers have boxing skills that would smash 99,5%+ of pro MMAers in a boxing match.

That being said, it is the allroundness that makes it interesting.

Debussey thinks that MMA will become more and more popular, regardless of the Tapout gheys at the mall

[Man of Steel]

Pro boxers have boxing skills that would smash 99,5%+ of pro MMAers in a boxing match.

That being said, it is the allroundness that makes it interesting.

Debussey thinks that MMA will become more and more popular, regardless of the Tapout gheys at the mall

Again, I'm neither against MMA nor I do find it uninteresting and it will continue to gain popularity much like Rap/Hip Hop....again another cultural situation that's popularity is primarily fueled by a legion of idiots.

[spinnis]

Again, I'm neither against MMA nor I do find it uninteresting and it will continue to gain popularity much like Rap/Hip Hop....again another cultural situation that's popularity is primarily fueled by a legion of idiots.

Dont tell me there aint alot of retards that call themself boxers after a month or two lol

[The Master]

Again, I'm neither against MMA nor I do find it uninteresting and it will continue to gain popularity much like Rap/Hip Hop....again another cultural situation that's popularity is primarily fueled by a legion of idiots.

Debussey = not living in teh US, so it does not have any insight into these Tapout monkeys

[whateva]

The funniest thing is boxers fighting MMA fighters (not Tim Sylvia ) under MMA rules

What are the   chances to win ,for a  48 years old   retired MMA Fighter (example :Dan SEVERN)make a  come back to fight in a BOXING match, against a top 10 Heavyweight boxer .

Chances = ZERO

We all know what happened between Mercer and Silvya  

[Man of Steel]

The martial arts skills that most of these fighters possess is very advanced.  I don't get how the boxing fans can argue that boxing requires more skill??  Also, if boxing is so much better, why don't boxing only specialist rarely win?

Martial artists aren't boxers anymore than boxers are martial artists....that's not the issue, it's just an easy argument for MMA enthusiasts to defend.

For me MMA is becomes annoying because it somehow gives license for badasses to engage in higher level of badassery.

[Man of Steel]

Dont tell me there aint alot of retards that call themself boxers after a month or two lol

There are inbred idiot fans lining wrasslin stadiums and trumpet blowin idiot beaners at every boxing match, but again no place on earth brings out the legion of self-proclaimed badasses like MMA.

[spinnis]

What are the   chances to win ,for a  48 years old   retired MMA Fighter (example :Dan SEVERN)make a  come back to fight in a BOXING match, against a top 10 Heavyweight boxer .

Chances = ZERO

We all know what happened between Mercer and Silvya  

you think silva is top 10?

SILVIA IS SHIT.  He won in mma because of his long ass reach and the current hw division was shit.

We all saw what happened when he faced Fedor lol.

[The Master]

What are the   chances to win ,for a  48 years old   retired MMA Fighter (example :Dan SEVERN)make a  come back to fight in a BOXING match, against a top 10 Heavyweight boxer .

Chances = ZERO

We all know what happened between Mercer and Silvya  

Sylvia got broken by Fedor Fedor takes their souls

And MMA vs. boxing under MMA rules = not even a discussion.

[spinnis]

Sylvia got broken by Fedor Fedor takes their souls

And MMA vs. boxing under MMA rules = not even a discussion.

Exactly.

And Boxing vs MMA under boxing rules = not even a discussion.

Every person with decent ammount of knowledge knows both of this..

[The Master]

We all saw what happened when he faced Fedor lol.

Have you seen those statistics of fighters record "pre Fedor" and "post Fedor"?  

[hazbin]

What are the   chances to win ,for a  48 years old   retired MMA Fighter (example :Dan SEVERN)make a  come back to fight in a BOXING match, against a top 10 Heavyweight boxer .

Chances = ZERO

We all know what happened between Mercer and Silvya  

don't forget Mercer got beat in a minute by Kimbo Slice in about Kimbo's second mma fight.

[spinnis]

Have you seen those statistics of fighters record "pre Fedor" and "post Fedor"?  

Did you see the look on Tim's face right after he lost?

A guy that just realised hes wasted his entire life at something he Thought he was good at but infact he sucks ass lol.

[whateva]

And MMA vs. boxing under MMA rules = not even a discussion.

BTW, Silvya and Mercer  fight was under MMA rules

[The Master]

Did you see the look on Tim's face right after he lost?

A guy that just realised hes wasted his entire life at something he Thought he was good at but infact he sucks ass lol.

As they say: Fedor steals their souls

[spinnis]

BTW, Silvya and Mercer  fight was under MMA rules

Didn't he loose to Kimbo though?

Who SUCKS ASS at mma... and havent even trained boxing lol.

[The Master]

BTW, Silvya and Mercer  fight was under MMA rules

You're a funny dwarf

[whateva]

Didn't he loose to Kimbo though?

Who SUCKS ASS at mma... and havent even trained boxing lol.

What's your point ,
 I'm not saying that Mercer is a great MMa fighter or even a great boxer nowadays ,the fact is that he beat Silvya  .
A top 10 boxer would never get beat in a boxing match by a retired MMa fighter

[spinnis]

What's your point ,
 I'm not saying that Mercer is a great MMa fighter or even a great boxer nowadays ,the fact is that he beat Silvya  .
A top 10 boxer would never get beat in a boxing match by a retired MMa fighter

And a Top 10 MMA guy would never get beaten in a mma match by a retired boxer.
Whats your point?

Tim SUCKS.

[whateva]

And a Top 10 MMA guy would never get beaten in a mma match by a retired boxer.
Whats your point?

Tim SUCKS.

He was the UFC champion couple years ago  and a top 10 heavyweight when he fought Mercer

[spinnis]

He was the UFC champion couple years ago  and a top 10 heavyweight when he fought Mercer

No.

Tim was a champ is a SHITTY divison, just because of his reach nothing else. It was called the "Tim era" and everyone is ashamed of it lol


Put him against, Fedor, or Mir or Lesnar etc or those types of HW and the result would be a Bit different lol.

Hell any decent mma guy that trained BJJ for a year or so,