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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2009, 11:52:38 AM »
Quote from: Swede! on July 14, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
No.

Tim was a champ is a SHITTY divison, just because of his reach nothing else.




Hopefully he has saved some of his 800K purse from the first Affliction show ;D
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2009, 12:39:46 PM »
Quote from: Swede! on July 14, 2009, 10:59:49 AM
I would say it takes more skill to be a very good mma artist, boxing, BJJ, wrestling etc, then it takes to become a good boxer.. :)

Now Im talking about a black belt bjj guy etc. Not your average tapout fighter lol.

Unless your name is Bj penn it takes years and years to become a legit black belt under for example the gracie family.

And ALOT of ufc fighers are legit black belts.


It takes more athletic ability to become a great boxer than a great MMA artist.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2009, 12:44:07 PM »
Quote from: Dredlock Rasta on July 14, 2009, 12:39:46 PM

It takes more athletic ability to become a great boxer than a great MMA artist.

lol.

If you think a boxer is more athletic then Anderson Silva, Gsp etc you're more dellisional then Kamali.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2009, 03:02:38 PM »
I think alot of wrestlers would make great fighters in MMA, because they have the strength and size.
They need that much skill.....just look at Lesnar, 4 fights (one of which he lost) and already undisputed UFC heavyweight champion.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2009, 03:18:53 PM »
Quote from: bodybuilder1234 on July 14, 2009, 03:02:38 PM
just look at Lesnar, 4 fights (one of which he lost) and already undisputed UFC heavyweight champion.

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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2009, 04:10:02 PM »
When Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather fight each other at the end of the year and it smashes every record for PPV, I'm going to come back to this thread and laugh at everyone that said boxing was dead.I guarantee Lesnar vs Fedor wouldn't get close to that ppv number.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2009, 04:11:30 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on July 14, 2009, 04:10:02 PM
When Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather fight each other at the end of the year and it smashes every record for PPV I'm going to come back to this thread and laugh at everyone that said boxing was dead.I guarantee Lesnar vs Fedor wouldn't get close to that ppv gate.

thats ONE match.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2009, 04:12:38 PM »
Quote from: Swede! on July 14, 2009, 04:11:30 PM
thats ONE match.

So, its the top 2 in boxing vs top 2 in MMA, Im sure they will both meet within next year or so.Want to take a bet against me Swede on which does the higher PPV numbers?
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2009, 04:29:50 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on July 14, 2009, 04:12:38 PM
So, its the top 2 in boxing vs top 2 in MMA, Im sure they will both meet within next year or so.Want to take a bet against me Swede on which does the higher PPV numbers?

wanna take bet what makes the higest average rating this year? MMA or boxing if boxing actually had a ppv each month?  ::)
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2009, 04:41:58 PM »
Quote from: Swede! on July 14, 2009, 04:29:50 PM
wanna take bet what makes the higest average rating this year? MMA or boxing if boxing actually had a ppv each month?  ::)
Boxing has PPV each month my friend.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2009, 04:44:18 PM »
boxing>mma


lol at making up figures
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2009, 04:46:22 PM »
boxing is not dead. I like both.

also include muay thai/kickboxing in the mix. but that doesn't have any popularity in america. :(
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2009, 04:48:31 PM »
Quote from: whateva on July 14, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
Boxing has PPV each month my friend.

its so dead I didnt even know that  ;D
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2009, 04:50:30 PM »
As of end of 2008

Live Gate

The Top grossing gate in the history of MMA

CHUCK LIDDELL vs. TITO ORTIZ II
12/30/06 $5,397,300

Top Boxing gates of the last 2 years

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
05/05/07 $18,419,200

Oscar De La Hoya vs Pacquiao
12/6/08 $14,380,300

Ricky Hatton vs Juan Lazcano
5/24/08 $12,000,000

JOE CALZAGHE vs. BERNARD HOPKINS
04/19/08 $ 11,636,400

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. RICKY HATTON
12/08/07 $10,393,950


Biggest one fight purse for each sport in 2008

MMA

Tim Sylvia - $800,000
Andre Arlovski -$749,690
Chuck Liddel l - $500,000
Kimbo Slice - $500,000
Brock Lesnar - $450,000
Forrest Griffin - $310,000
BJ Penn - $250,000
Randy Couture - $250,000
Anderson Silva - $200,000

Boxing

Oscar Delahoya - $24,000,000
Felix Trinidad - $14,000,000
Wladimir Klitschko - $12,000,000
Manny Pacquiao - $11,000,000
Joe Calzaghe - $10,000,000
Roy Jones - $10,000,000
Bernard Hopkins - $8,000,000
Miguel Cotto - $7,000,000
Kelly Pavlik - $3,000,000
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2009, 04:52:16 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on July 14, 2009, 04:50:30 PM
As of end of 2008

Live Gate

The Top grossing gate in the history of MMA

CHUCK LIDDELL vs. TITO ORTIZ II
12/30/06 $5,397,300

Top Boxing gates of the last 2 years

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
05/05/07 $18,419,200

Oscar De La Hoya vs Pacquiao
12/6/08 $14,380,300

Ricky Hatton vs Juan Lazcano
5/24/08 $12,000,000

JOE CALZAGHE vs. BERNARD HOPKINS
04/19/08 $ 11,636,400

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. RICKY HATTON
12/08/07 $10,393,950


Biggest one fight purse for each sport in 2008

MMA

Tim Sylvia - $800,000
Andre Arlovski -$749,690
Chuck Liddel l - $500,000
Kimbo Slice - $500,000
Brock Lesnar - $450,000
Forrest Griffin - $310,000
BJ Penn - $250,000
Randy Couture - $250,000
Anderson Silva - $200,000

Boxing

Oscar Delahoya - $24,000,000
Felix Trinidad - $14,000,000
Wladimir Klitschko - $12,000,000
Manny Pacquiao - $11,000,000
Joe Calzaghe - $10,000,000
Roy Jones - $10,000,000
Bernard Hopkins - $8,000,000
Miguel Cotto - $7,000,000
Kelly Pavlik - $3,000,000

Hahhaaaaaa

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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2009, 04:52:58 PM »
Quote from: bodybuilder1234 on July 14, 2009, 03:02:38 PM
I think alot of wrestlers would make great fighters in MMA, because they have the strength and size.
They need that much skill.....just look at Lesnar, 4 fights (one of which he lost) and already undisputed UFC heavyweight champion.

Exactly....Lesnar has 4 fights and he's the Champ ??

Not exactly a high level of opposition out there. And by the time he gets to a whopping 10 fights, which most pro boxers have under their belt before the receive any kind of attention, someone will probably  beat him.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2009, 04:56:43 PM »
Quote from: Groink on July 14, 2009, 04:52:58 PM
Exactly....Lesnar has 4 fights and he's the Champ ??

Not exactly a high level of opposition out there. And by the time he gets to a whopping 10 fights, which most pro boxers have under their belt before the receive any kind of attention, someone will probably  beat him.

yup :D he didn't think before he wrote that post ahahahaha
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2009, 04:56:59 PM »
I am a fan of both sports but I think I will always like boxing better. To be honest I can't really explain why I prefer boxing; I think part of it is just the rich history and tradition involved.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2009, 04:59:56 PM »
Quote from: tweeter on July 14, 2009, 04:56:59 PM
I am a fan of both sports but I think I will always like boxing better. To be honest I can't really explain why I prefer boxing; I think part of it is just the rich history and tradition involved.
I like both the same.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2009, 05:58:43 PM »
The whole Ray Mercer- Tim Sylvia argument is so stupid. People don't mention that Ray Mercer was submitted by none other than Kimbo Slice, who is more or less a joke in the mma world. Boxing isn't dead, there's some fantastic fights still out there waiting to be made.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2009, 06:11:29 PM »
The truth is that no one gives a shit about boxing.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2009, 06:33:20 PM »
Quote from: body88 on July 14, 2009, 06:11:29 PM
The truth is that no one gives a shit about boxing.

go to Germany ;)
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2009, 06:40:15 PM »
I think that Max Kellerman, a boxing expert and sport radio host in NY made this argument as why boxing is in decline!

basically the next heavy champion is playing line backer in the NFL. And by that he means that most inner city kids have gravitated to basketball and football.  In the 50s, 60s and 70s boxing was the #1 outlet for the young athletes. Now football has their attention. Any kid that shows any sign of physical gifts is immediate pulled towards basketball and football. 

If Muhammed Alli was born in the 80s he would have played football instead of going into boxing.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2009, 07:00:37 PM »
Quote from: Red Hook on July 14, 2009, 06:40:15 PM
I think that Max Kellerman, a boxing expert and sport radio host in NY made this argument as why boxing is in decline!

basically the next heavy champion is playing line backer in the NFL. And by that he means that most inner city kids have gravitated to basketball and football.  In the 50s, 60s and 70s boxing was the #1 outlet for the young athletes. Now football has their attention. Any kid that shows any sign of physical gifts is immediate pulled towards basketball and football. 

If Muhammed Alli was born in the 80s he would have played football instead of going into boxing.
Yes, you're right about this, atleast in regards to the USA. Teddy Atlas was actually talking about the same thing on Friday Night Fights a few weeks ago. Most of the current American heavyweights are guys who couldn't make a living in football, so they decided to take up boxing later in life. In the past, heavyweight champions started learning the sweet science at a very young age. Now you have guys picking up boxing well into their 20's, and they aren't able to develop fast enough to pose a challenge to the European heavyweights.
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Re: Boxing is dead
« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2009, 07:24:07 PM »
Quote from: Red Hook on July 14, 2009, 06:40:15 PM
I think that Max Kellerman, a boxing expert and sport radio host in NY made this argument as why boxing is in decline!

basically the next heavy champion is playing line backer in the NFL. And by that he means that most inner city kids have gravitated to basketball and football.  In the 50s, 60s and 70s boxing was the #1 outlet for the young athletes. Now football has their attention. Any kid that shows any sign of physical gifts is immediate pulled towards basketball and football. 

If Muhammed Alli was born in the 80s he would have played football instead of going into boxing.
True , because Basketball and Football didn't exist in the 50s,60s and 70s  ::)
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