MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros (Bob Chick Melting Down)

[Matt C]

I said Layne.

[Fury]

I said Layne.

We get it. You want to suck his dick. STFU about it.

[Chick]

It wasn't a dumb post.  Your exaggerative perception of what he is said is "dumb", however, that is your reading comprehension, not his point. 

What he said was that many people get into bb'ing and consequently think they are instant alpha male toughguys.  At no stage did suggest what you claim he was saying.  He's talking about people who believe added muscle inceases their fighting potential far more than is actually true.

You're way smarter than taking ye olde "indignation exaggeration" angle of an argument. I don't know why you are lowering yourself to it.  It really is the method of the morose.

My comprehension is just fine, thank you...


First, he's speaking from his OWN references as he would have no knowledge of whether anyone actually got into bodybuilding to be the "alpha male"...so the original argument is ridiculous at best

Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost?  I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...

The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.

[ManBearPig...]

My comprehension is just fine, thank you...


First, he's speaking from his OWN references as he would have no knowledge of whether anyone actually got into bodybuilding to be the "alpha male"...so the original argument is ridiculous at best

Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost?  I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...

The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.

someone who's overly muscular like yourself would be at a disadvantage in the cage, brother!

[Chick]

someone who's overly muscular like yourself would be at a disadvantage in the cage, brother!

Yep...sure would

Just as the MMA fighter would be at a disadvantage on a BB stage


GET IT?

[Captain Equipoise]

My comprehension is just fine, thank you...


First, he's speaking from his OWN references as he would have no knowledge of whether anyone actually got into bodybuilding to be the "alpha male"...so the original argument is ridiculous at best

Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost?  I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...

The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.

Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.)   Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.

[Spike]

Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.)   Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.

wow you must of been bigger than brock you couldnt get the full twink-punch-slap combo down right in your womens defense class for ladies over 45

just make sure next time your huge biceps dont knock off Mrs. Carrolton's wig when you fake ball bust her ass

[Chick]

Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.)   Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.

Of course it does...they're two DIFFERENT paths.

Thats like asking if being a 250 lb bodybuilder would be a disadvantage to running a 26 mile marathon...

[SS]

LMAO @ this thread

[IceCold]

Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.)   Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.

ever heard of brock lesnar?

back in the day mark kerr and mark coleman were fighting at about 250+.

[DeketheCreep]

''freakn horny chinese guy''
 

[Captain Equipoise]

ever heard of brock lesnar?

back in the day mark kerr and mark coleman were fighting at about 250+.

I'm just saying some stuff in martial arts is a lot harder and more exhausting to do when you are 250+
esp. on gear, geez...Im not comparing myself to Brock Lesnar or whatever, it was just a simple observation that Chick concurred.

[MindSpin]

So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH?  I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....

One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...

Big muscles are fine.  They look great and portray power & strength.  However, for 99% of national level & pro bodybuilders the muscles are just for show and do nothing.  It's like putting a Ferrari body on VW bug.  It might look great, but it doesn't do shit.

 

[MindSpin]

what is mma supposed to be for?  how often are you in a situation where you have to physically defend yourself?

more often than not, the guys that get into fights are trouble makers or just criminals

as far as being an alpha male goes, i think it's more of a mindset than fighting or big muscles

going by looks alone, i think people would say a bodybuilder looks more alpha than bj penn, for that reason a bj penn look alike would more likely be in a situation where he has to defend himself

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you make my point for me.  Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit.  He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.

[MindSpin]

You still don't get it in fact. Who gives a crap about pummeling some guy's face unless you had a troubled childhood, or for some reason feel the need to pound on someone to get affirmation in life. Lame, and for stupid people.

I personally don't believe that you need to be a trained MMA fighter or juiced up bodybuilder to mask some sort of insecurity.  More important than anything, is your sense of confidence and mindset.  Instead, I am refering to the juiced up meatheads who walk around thinking they're tough guys (99% of bodybuilders).  Sorry, guys...you ain't shit.

[MindSpin]

is big muscles dont mean anything as far as being alpha male...how come every single "mma" tapout wearing "cage fighter"...will automatically give respect to a guy who is bigger muscled than him?

in life its evry simple and it almost always holds true... bigger muscles/better looking... = more respect... regardless of anything else...

if  your at a social gathering and all the mma fighter guy is talking about all night is telling some bb'er how big he is and askin about training with him... then even if that mma could beat up the bb'er..in everyones eyes there the bb'er is the alpha... cuz the mma guy is acting as if he is the beta...

You're delusional.  Every amateur/professional MMA fighter I've ever met laughs at bodybuilders.  And, none want to have overly developed muscle mass, as it is a serious liability when it comes to flexibility, speed and endurance.

[dr.chimps]

LOL. The handbags are swinging in this thread. Someone dash some water on our overheated matrons. 

[#1 Klaus fan]

So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH?  I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....

One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...

That's true...some people who are into strength training and who are anti-bodybuilding don't want any muscles and want to be skinny...I personally don't understand it.

[Sam]

You're delusional.  Every amateur/professional MMA fighter I've ever met laughs at bodybuilders.  And, none want to have overly developed muscle mass, as it is a serious liability when it comes to flexibility, speed and endurance.

LOL - Everyone you have ever met? Is it your standard entry question? '' Hi, nice to meet you, BTW  do you laugh at Arnold?''

[Chick]

you make my point for me.  Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit.  He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.

Since you think I'm such a "little biatch"...why dont YOU come up and slap me in the mouth?  Lets see who the "alpha" male is.

You talk like a complete retard.

I dont have to take shit from anyone...and the difference is, anyone who is worth their weight as a fighter doesn't go around acting like a toughguy...

You obviously dont have the brain capacity to understand that which has been explained a number of ways to you...the PERCEPTION of what an "alpha male" is, is what is put out there...whether someone is a cage fighter, BB, or successful businessman....I got news for you son, most MMA guys dont exactly meet the criteria in the public eye...walking around with your face beat up, stiches, crooked nose, cauliflower ears doesn't exactly portray what th mainstream would consider "alpha looking"

Stop talking while you can still save a shread of dignity, your mouth is making you look like an ignorant fool

[MindSpin]

Since you think I'm such a "little biatch"...why dont YOU come up and slap me in the mouth?  Lets see who the "alpha" male is.

You talk like a complete retard.

I dont have to take shit from anyone...and the difference is, anyone who is worth their weight as a fighter doesn't go around acting like a toughguy...

You obviously dont have the brain capacity to understand that which has been explained a number of ways to you...the PERCEPTION of what an "alpha male" is, is what is put out there...whether someone is a cage fighter, BB, or successful businessman....I got news for you son, most MMA guys dont exactly meet the criteria in the public eye...walking around with your face beat up, stiches, crooked nose, cauliflower ears doesn't exactly portray what th mainstream would consider "alpha looking"

Stop talking while you can still save a shread of dignity, your mouth is making you look like an ignorant fool

lol.  making you melt is easier than 15lb dumbell presses   

[Chick]

lol.  making you melt is easier than 15lb dumbell presses   

Good response from someone who has just been exposed

well done

[spinnis]

Since you think I'm such a "little biatch"...why dont YOU come up and slap me in the mouth?  Lets see who the "alpha" male is.

The "athletes" "rep" is making threats 

[Mr.1derful]

you make my point for me.  Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit.  He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.

I might have used someone other than BJ Penn as an example, but anyway.  He's got talent, but is a lazy dough boy and will never realize his full potential. 

[Palpatine Q]

I think it's funny that all MMA fans automatically assume that everyone who does MMA training is a badass.

I will give it up to guys who have fought successfully....but the average gym rat is the average gym rat, be it MMA or BBing . No one is better than the other