Sign the Healthcare petition!!!

[MM2K]

Sign the petition to keep government's grubby hands off your healtcare.

http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/

[Brixtonbulldog]

done

[Hereford]

No.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

No.

X2,,,there are homelss people out there have no healthcare

[MM2K]

Everyone has access to health CARE.  Seven million people  dont have health INSURANCE. Do you want to destroy the entire system because of seven million people?

[James]

Thanks for the link

[Soul Crusher]

No.

Que?

[Benny B]

Everyone has access to health CARE.  Seven million people  dont have health INSURANCE. Do you want to destroy the entire system because of seven million people?

More like FORTY-SEVEN million people without health insurance. And yes, that will be changed soon once Obama signs the new health care bill into law. So you can sign all the petitions you want but it isn't going to help. 

[Soul Crusher]

More like FORTY-SEVEN million people without health insurance. And yes, that will be changed soon once Obama signs the new health care bill into law. So you can sign all the petitions you want but it isn't going to help. 

Thats more liberal lies.  15 million are illegal aliens who should be deported.  15 million are young people and peiople between the jobs.  The real numer is about 8-10 million.  We dont have to destroy the entire system for a number that low.

[Benny B]

Thats more liberal lies.  15 million are illegal aliens who should be deported.  15 million are young people and peiople between the jobs.  The real numer is about 8-10 million.  We dont have to destroy the entire system for a number that low.

Please. Far more than 10 million people are uninsured in America.


This analysis was updated on August 26, 2008 to reflect 2007 Census Data. View the new analysis

Data released today by the Census Bureau show that the number of uninsured Americans stood at a record 46.6 million in 2005, with 15.9 percent of Americans lacking health coverage. “The number of uninsured Americans reached an all-time high in 2005,” said Robert Greenstein, executive director of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. “It is sobering that 5.4 million more people lacked health insurance in 2005 than in the recession year of 2001, primarily because of the erosion of employer-based insurance.”

Census data show that 46.6 million Americans were uninsured in 2005, an increase of 1.3 million from the number of uninsured in 2004 (45.3 million). The percentage who are uninsured rose from 15.6 percent in 2004 to 15.9 percent in 2005. The number of children who are uninsured rose from 7.9 million in 2004 to 8.3 million in 2005.

“The increase of 360,000 in the number of uninsured children is particularly troublesome,” Greenstein said. “Since 1998, the percentage of uninsured children has been dropping steadily, from a high of 15.4 percent to 10.8 percent in 2004. The new Census data show that the uninsured rate among children moved in the wrong direction in 2005, rising to 11.2 percent.”

Greenstein warned that matters could get worse. In fiscal year 2007, which begins October 1, children’s health insurance programs in 17 states face federal funding shortfalls totaling an estimated $800 million, equal to the cost of covering more than 500,000 low-income children. Congress has known about the shortfall since early February, when the Administration took note of it and proposed a measure to address it, but Congress has so far failed to act.

“Unless Congress takes action this year to avert the impending shortfall,” Greenstein said, “the increase in the number of children without health coverage is likely to accelerate in the year ahead.”


Health care reform is inevitable, so you'll just have to cry yourself to sleep over it. 

[Benny B]

Census Bureau: Number of U.S. Uninsured Rises to 47 Million Americans are Uninsured: Almost 5 Percent Increase Since 2005

Teddi Dineley Johnson

For the sixth consecutive year, the number of Americans living without health insurance has risen, according to new U.S. Census Bureau data. Approximately 2.2 million people were added to the uninsurance rolls in 2006 — the largest one-year increase in the number of uninsured Americans since 2002.

Annual Census Bureau estimates released in August show 47 million people, or 15.8 percent of the U.S. population, were without health insurance during 2006 — a 4.9 percent increase. In 2005, census figures showed that 44.8 million people, or about 15.3 percent of the population, lacked health insurance coverage.

The number of uninsured Americans has increased 22 percent since 2000, at which time 38.4 million people lacked health insurance.

Fewer Americans had employer-based coverage in 2006, the new data show. The percentage of people covered by employer plans fell from 60.2 percent in 2005 to 59.7 percent in 2006, according to the report, "Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States."

Also of note, more children were without health insurance in 2006, the census data showed. The percentage of uninsured children younger than 18 rose from 10.9 percent in 2005 to 11.7 percent in 2006. According to the data, children ages 12–17 were more likely to be uninsured than children younger than age 12.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/567737

[Soul Crusher]

Please. Far more than 10 million people are uninsured in America.


This analysis was updated on August 26, 2008 to reflect 2007 Census Data. View the new analysis

Data released today by the Census Bureau show that the number of uninsured Americans stood at a record 46.6 million in 2005, with 15.9 percent of Americans lacking health coverage. “The number of uninsured Americans reached an all-time high in 2005,” said Robert Greenstein, executive director of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. “It is sobering that 5.4 million more people lacked health insurance in 2005 than in the recession year of 2001, primarily because of the erosion of employer-based insurance.”

Census data show that 46.6 million Americans were uninsured in 2005, an increase of 1.3 million from the number of uninsured in 2004 (45.3 million). The percentage who are uninsured rose from 15.6 percent in 2004 to 15.9 percent in 2005. The number of children who are uninsured rose from 7.9 million in 2004 to 8.3 million in 2005.

“The increase of 360,000 in the number of uninsured children is particularly troublesome,” Greenstein said. “Since 1998, the percentage of uninsured children has been dropping steadily, from a high of 15.4 percent to 10.8 percent in 2004. The new Census data show that the uninsured rate among children moved in the wrong direction in 2005, rising to 11.2 percent.”

Greenstein warned that matters could get worse. In fiscal year 2007, which begins October 1, children’s health insurance programs in 17 states face federal funding shortfalls totaling an estimated $800 million, equal to the cost of covering more than 500,000 low-income children. Congress has known about the shortfall since early February, when the Administration took note of it and proposed a measure to address it, but Congress has so far failed to act.

“Unless Congress takes action this year to avert the impending shortfall,” Greenstein said, “the increase in the number of children without health coverage is likely to accelerate in the year ahead.”


Health care reform is inevitable, so you'll just have to cry yourself to sleep over it. 

And since 2004 we have had at least that man illegals flood our country.  Whats your point? 

The other nonsense that you refuse to acknowledge is that many of the people without insurance are already covered under som federal or state plan but are either too lazy or dont care to sign up. 

[blacken700]

Thats more liberal lies.  15 million are illegal aliens who should be deported.  15 million are young people and peiople between the jobs.  The real numer is about 8-10 million.  We dont have to destroy the entire system for a number that low.

thats what glen beck told him

[Soul Crusher]

thats what glen beck told him

The Real Numbers On Uninsured Healthcare People BOOM it

You have heard the numbers; 45 Million Americans uninsured. But not so fast, they are all not Americans uninsured, a bunch are people living in America illegally.

There is a lot more to behind the numbers.

Breakdown of numbers by the CBO, Census Bureau and others indicate:

1. There is a difference between health care and health insurance. Everyone has access to health care. They may not have health insurance, but the law mandates everyone who shows up at emergency rooms must be treated, insurance or not.

2. 46 million in America lack health insurance. The “in America” reference, as opposed to writing “46 million Americans,” is an important point because of those 46 million without insurance, an estimated 10 million or so are non-U.S. citizens, most living in this country illegally.

3. Millions can apparently afford health insurance but for whatever reason choose to not buy it. In 2007, an estimated 17.6 million of the uninsured made more than $50,000 per year, and more than 9 million of those made more than $75,000. According to researcher and author Sally Pipes, 38 percent of the U.S. uninsured population earn more than $50,000 per year.

3. Young workers often just don’t think about health insurance. The Census figures show that 18.3 million of the uninsured were under 34 who may simply not think about the need for insurance.

4. Government health insurance programs currently exist that aren’t being used. A 2003 Blue Cross/Blue Shield Association study estimated that about 14 million of the uninsured were eligible for Medicaid and SCHIP and would be signed up automatically if they went to the hospital.

5. Many children who should be insured aren’t. This study by Georgetown University’s Health Policy Institute shows that 7 out of every 10 kids who lacks insurance could get it if their parents simply enrolled in current government programs.

6. Millions lose health insurance only temporarily through the year. The CBO has estimated that millions who fall into the uninsured category are those who have lost or left jobs and they will regain insurance once they return to work.

Thus, the 46 million figure should actually be closer to about 8 million truly uninsured. Too many are simply non-US citizens, not paying for insurance because they choose not to or feel too young to need it, or simply are not signing up for programs for which they are eligble.

[Benny B]

And since 2004 we have had at least that man illegals flood our country.  Whats your point? 

The other nonsense that you refuse to acknowledge is that many of the people without insurance are already covered under som federal or state plan but are either too lazy or dont care to sign up. 

LOL
My POINT is that you have no idea what you are writing about.

[headhuntersix]

More like FORTY-SEVEN million people without health insurance. And yes, that will be changed soon once Obama signs the new health care bill into law. So you can sign all the petitions you want but it isn't going to help. 

Sure thing...I guess u don't read the news. Besides why do I care about 47 million when we have a country of over 300 million....why is this my problem.

Benny...its not my fucking problem that they don't have insurance.

[Soul Crusher]

LOL
My POINT is that you have no idea what you are writing about.

Read my post.  The 45 million number is a lie.  

[Benny B]

The Real Numbers On Uninsured Healthcare People BOOM it

You have heard the numbers; 45 Million Americans uninsured. But not so fast, they are all not Americans uninsured, a bunch are people living in America illegally.

There is a lot more to behind the numbers.

Breakdown of numbers by the CBO, Census Bureau and others indicate:

1. There is a difference between health care and health insurance. Everyone has access to health care. They may not have health insurance, but the law mandates everyone who shows up at emergency rooms must be treated, insurance or not.

This post alone is priceless.  Yes, show up at an emergency room without insurance and you'll likely get treatment. You'll also walk out with a bill so big you will have to file bankruptcy to get out from underneath the crushing debt incurred.

Just lovely for all of the people who are self employed, working as waitresses, working two part time jobs, or who lost their jobs and can't afford to be even temporarily without insurance because of children or an existing condition. 

The right wing nut jobs who believe "all is well" with the current system will be run over and left in the dustbins of history when the new legislation is enacted. 

[blacken700]

Sure thing...I guess u don't read the news. Besides why do I care about 47 million when we have a country of over 300 million....why is this my problem.

Benny...its not my fucking problem that they don't have insurance.

it is your problem, because they don't have regular doctors and don't get regular checkups and they use the emergency room as their doctors and as you know emergency rooms are the most expensive care you can have and if their not paying then you are

[Soul Crusher]

it is your problem, because they don't have regular doctors and don't get regular checkups and they use the emergency room as their doctors and as you know emergency rooms are the most expensive care you can have and if their not paying then you are

That's fine, but my point is that we should figure out what the real number is and who these people are. 

1.  Young people dont need a cadillac plan.  They need a high deductible catasproic plan in the event of a emergency. 

2.  illegals should not get squat.  They should be referred to ICE when they show up at the ER. 

3.  See how many of the above may already be eligible for an existing plan.  if we cvan help a few million people by putting them on existing plans without disrupting everyones elses plans, what the problem? 


 

[headhuntersix]

This post alone is priceless.  Yes, show up at an emergency room without insurance and you'll likely get treatment. You'll also walk out with a bill so big you will have to file bankruptcy to get out from underneath the crushing debt incurred.

Just lovely for all of the people who are self employed, working as waitresses, working two part time jobs, or who lost their jobs and can't afford to be even temporarily without insurance because of children or an existing condition. 

The right wing nut jobs who believe "all is well" with the current system will be run over and left in the dustbins of history when the new legislation is enacted. 

I could care less about these people..why is any of this my fault. This is the problme with douchbag libs..u feel bad... u feel that people ought to have care. Well guess what, we canm't fucking afford it..not my problem. The backlash from all of this will make make bush hate look like a pillow fight.

[Soul Crusher]

I could care less about these people..why is any of this my fault. This is the problme with douchbag libs..u feel bad... u feel that people ought to have care. Well guess what, we canm't fucking afford it..not my problem. The backlash from all of this will make make bush hate look like a pillow fight.

The reason health care is so expensive is because of peoples' demand for new tech, drugs, and the govt spending.

Look at almost every area in the economy where inflation is most rampant, its where the govt is involved.  Also, the third party payer system does not work well.  Consumers should be responsible for costs, not the govt or their employers. 

Higher Education & Health Care are two clear cut examples where the govt greatly adds to the cost inflation.  If we want the cost to go down, the govt needs less involvement in these areas so true market forces can dicatate price. 

[headhuntersix]

I'd like to see an opposing arguement by the libs that doesn't envolve personal attacks or "feelings". I want to see where 3 is wrong and where or how we will afford any of this.

[Soul Crusher]

I'd like to see an opposing arguement by the libs that doesn't envolve personal attacks or "feelings". I want to see where 3 is wrong and where or how we will afford any of this.

They wont, they all attack me, fine, BUT NEVER REFUTE MY ARGUMENTS.

Sure, if they want to attack me as cold, non-caring, etc, fine, but feelings dont make for good economic policies in the long run. 

[headhuntersix]

I just want facts....I want an opinion that says...we can do this and we'll get money here etc. I want one of these idiots to stop feeling sorry for these people for a minute and look at the big picture. 45 million people of how many, don't have insurance? Please explain to me why its my problem that they don't have insurance, why I need to pay for it, and how I benefit.