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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2009, 11:32:56 PM »
Vince , your a dumb ass,.....It is Ephedra viridis , or Mormon Tea, not Ephedra Vitilis.
Vince we dont you use Ephdra viridis , WE USE REAL Epherdra with 25mg of Alklaloids.
Its a real ECA stack,Ephedra viridis is junk and does nothing.Its almost as good as Bee Pollen.
Will Grant, Its a sad reality, but EAS used to be a high end company , but now there products are below average.
They are just low priced cheap products that arent anything special.

Fellas, if you have money issues, you can get the container of egg White cartons for $1.88, they have 50 grams of protein.I know guys who drink them righty out of the carton.I drink about 3 protein shakes a day, but when I drink a protein I make sure its pure.I dont want gas bloating cramping or the runs, because I got a good deal on a bottle of protein.TBOMBZ says trueprotein.com has a good whey protein concerntrate for only $4.65, so a 3lb bottle will cost you around $14.00.If you drinking 3 shakes a day, a 3lb bottle should last you 2 weeks.


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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2009, 12:51:55 AM »
we dont you use Ephdra viridis , WE USE REAL Epherdra with 25mg of Alklaloids.
Its a real ECA stack,


How is it legal to sell?

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2009, 12:55:14 AM »

Lactose.... then again how much of it.

Personally, I won't refuse feeding from my own tap.

True, lactose intolerance is an issue for some.  For the rest, they should down a gallon of milk a day.  I got BIG fat on it. ;D

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2009, 02:00:24 AM »
Van right now the FDA is in limbo about the ingredient EPhedra.They just donmt want it getting in the handsa of children or to be sold to meth labs.Alot of compnies who sold Ephedra at one time would sell material to meth manufactures.
If you didnt know this Methamphetimine is an appedemic right now.Thats is the reason they have a harde on for Ephedra.
Plus by putting in a calming herb complex in my product its acts as a codom to protect me from the FDA, nad the meth dealers.The meth dealers wont buy a Ephedra product weith calmining herbs in it.If defeats the who puropse for using the ephedra in the first place.I have had Meth manufactures, want to buy large amounts of product offf of me, and I just simply said, no thank you.
I dont want to deal with that trash.Meth, has taken alot of lives, and will continue to do so until they get control of it.


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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2009, 02:12:36 AM »
Van right now the FDA is in limbo about the ingredient EPhedra.They just donmt want it getting in the handsa of children or to be sold to meth labs.Alot of compnies who sold Ephedra at one time would sell material to meth manufactures.
If you didnt know this Methamphetimine is an appedemic right now.Thats is the reason they have a harde on for Ephedra.
Plus by putting in a calming herb complex in my product its acts as a codom to protect me from the FDA, nad the meth dealers.The meth dealers wont buy a Ephedra product weith calmining herbs in it.If defeats the who puropse for using the ephedra in the first place.I have had Meth manufactures, want to buy large amounts of product offf of me, and I just simply said, no thank you.
I dont want to deal with that trash.Meth, has taken alot of lives, and will continue to do so until they get control of it.



Are you saying you're putting ephedrine hcl in your supposed ephedra product? Because ephedra isn't used in meth manufacture. This would be a serious crime.

You are one shady individual.  :D

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2009, 02:19:00 AM »
Van the Meth labs use Ephdra, ephedrine, Sudaphedrine. Pseudoephedrine ,they will use anything they can get there hands on.Why do you think that they linit the amoiubt of Sudafed a person can buy.
I am not shady, I dont sell to them,I just sell an ECA stack thats reaslly works

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2009, 02:30:01 AM »
Van the Meth labs use Ephdra, ephedrine, Sudaphedrine. Pseudoephedrine ,they will use anything they can get there hands on.Why do you think that they linit the amoiubt of Sudafed a person can buy.
I am not shady, I dont sell to them,I just sell an ECA stack thats reaslly works

Show me some evidence that meth labs ever used Ephedra to make meth.

Why they limit the amount of Sudafed? That's a completely different scenario.

I'm not a chemist but I can see what a bitch it would be to make meth from ephedra. I don't think so. That's why everyone thought it was ridiculous that they banned ephedra but ephedrine was still available, albeit in limited quantities. Because ephedra isn't used in meth manufacture!

Anyone here know more about making meth? Anyone ever hear about ephedra being used?

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2009, 06:13:31 AM »
Vince , your a dumb ass,.....It is Ephedra viridis , or Mormon Tea, not Ephedra Vitilis.
Vince we dont you use Ephdra viridis , WE USE REAL Epherdra with 25mg of Alklaloids.
Its a real ECA stack,Ephedra viridis is junk and does nothing.Its almost as good as Bee Pollen.
Will Grant, Its a sad reality, but EAS used to be a high end company , but now there products are below average.
They are just low priced cheap products that arent anything special.

Fellas, if you have money issues, you can get the container of egg White cartons for $1.88, they have 50 grams of protein.I know guys who drink them righty out of the carton.I drink about 3 protein shakes a day, but when I drink a protein I make sure its pure.I dont want gas bloating cramping or the runs, because I got a good deal on a bottle of protein.TBOMBZ says trueprotein.com has a good whey protein concerntrate for only $4.65, so a 3lb bottle will cost you around $14.00.If you drinking 3 shakes a day, a 3lb bottle should last you 2 weeks.




You're crazy to put real Ephedra in those products.  However, that's your butt in trouble not mine so I went ahead and ordered 6 bottles of it from BB.com.  Hell, I don't like you but at the same time, I got customers who will want to buy that stuff
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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2009, 06:27:47 AM »
Whey Isolate is supposed to be the best, but imo just regular whey is fine lol and alot cheaper than isolate.

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2009, 08:06:57 AM »
Why don't you guys just save your money and buy 1-2% milk and use that as your "supplement"?

Yup...but an oiled up man in a thong didn't endorse milk...

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #60 on: July 24, 2009, 08:10:09 AM »
your mom is cheap

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #61 on: July 24, 2009, 08:28:18 AM »
"How can they force you to take it down?"
when the owner of this website gets a cnd
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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2009, 08:59:07 AM »
Van dont be a dumb ass.Ephedrine is used for making
Meth.It is just one of the many recipes they use to make the stuff

This is right from the FDA.....

Pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, both List I chemicals, are highly coveted by drug traffickers who use them to manufacture methamphetamine, a Schedule II controlled substance, for the illicit market. The diversion of over-the-counter pseudoephedrine containing products is one of the major contributing factors to the methamphetamine situation in the United States. Inappropriate retail level purchases by individuals attempting to procure pseudoephedrine for the illicit manufacture of methamphetamine have been documented as a source of much of the pseudoephedrine found in clandestine methamphetamine laboratories. These purchases which are accomplished by methods such as "smurfing" and shelf sweeping violate Federal law and may expose the seller to criminal and civil penalties.

Common Pseudoephedrine Products

Common cold products including, but not limited to Sudafed®, Tylenol® Cold, Advil® Cold, Drixoral®, Benadryl® Allergy & Cold Tablets, Robitussin® Cold Sinus & Congestion, as well as many generic brands.

Retail Thresholds

The Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act (MAPA) limits the thresholds of pseudoephedrine drug products to 9 gram single transactions with the package size not to exceed 3 grams.

Nine (9) gram single transactions Three (3) gram per package
• 120 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL = 92 tablets • 120 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL = 31 tablets
• 60 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL = 184 tablets • 60 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL = 62 tablets
• 30 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL = 367 tablets  • 30 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL = 123 tablets

Common Methods of Diversion

o Smurfing involves the retail purchase of sub-threshold amounts by organized groups of individuals that either send in multiple purchasers into the same location or visit a large number of different locations.

o Shelf Sweeping occurs when individuals or groups remove all the shelf stock and exit the store, similar to a "smash and grab" shoplifting technique.

o Shoplifting occurs when individuals remove stock from the shelves and exit the store without paying.

All of the above methods can be prevented by limiting access to products or by utilizing mirrors or other surveillance equipment such as cameras.

Suspicious Purchase Items

Camping Fuel, lithium batteries, large quantities of matches, iodine, coffee filters, rock salt, battery acid, swimming pool acid (when purchased in unusual quantities or under unusual circumstances)

Theft or Loss of List I Chemicals

The DEA reminds List I chemical handlers of the regulatory requirement: "A regulated chemical handler must immediately report thefts or losses to the nearest DEA office and should notify state/local law enforcement and regulatory agencies. A written report must be submitted to the DEA within 15 days of discovery of the theft or loss." (CFR 21 §1310.05)

Improper Sales

"Any person who possesses or distributes a listed chemical knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that the listed chemical will be used to manufacture a controlled substance, except as authorized by this title, shall be fined in accordance with Title 18, or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both." (Title 21 U.S.C. 841 (c)(2))

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #63 on: July 24, 2009, 09:09:08 AM »
Van, why argue the point.Trust me I know what Meth Labs want.I been in the industry for 15 years, and been selling Ephdra for 12 years.The reason why the FDA, doesnt bother with me is because they know I will not sell raw materials to Meth labs to make the stuff.Van if I wanted to I could have made billions of dollars by supplying drug labs with raw materials.But I wont do it, I seen first hand what Meth can do to people.I dated a girl when I was 20 who was hooked on meth and I didnt know it.I didnt even know what meth was, I just thought she hads alot of energy.It turns out she got hooked on meth because alot of women use it to loose weight.After I found out she was hooked drugs I left her.
When I first met her she was 130lbs, when we broke up after only dating 3 months  because of meth she was down to 76lbs.
I did get help her get clean and sober, but we never got back together.But to see someone you love detoriate in a matter of months is scary.Meth is very addictive, and deadly

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #64 on: July 24, 2009, 09:25:13 AM »
Why don't you guys just save your money and buy 1-2% milk and use that as your "supplement"?

You fucking kidding me? This is getbig brother. I make that shit faster than I can spend it. I buy 2 fuckin Lambos a day. Im rich beeitch! hahahaha ;D

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2009, 10:18:57 AM »
Van dont be a dumb ass.Ephedrine is used for making
Meth

Ephedrine yes, not ephedra.

Van, why argue the point.Trust me I know what Meth Labs want.I been in the industry for 15 years, and been selling Ephdra for 12 years.

Look, I doubted that meth labs used ephedra. Now, I found some paper that said ephedra could be used as a starting material. But I still doubt it has been commonly used in meth manufacture.
On Cops and other TV shows not once have I seen ephedra bottles when they bust meth labs.  :D

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #66 on: July 24, 2009, 11:39:23 AM »
I go into Wal-Mart, and Target, and supermarkets only to see $13-$17 bottles of 2lb Whey Protein.I know all of these companies dont do there own blending.So you have them paying the blenderto blend-manufacture the product, then they have to sell it to the store.So it has to pass through 3 hands, before it hits the consumer.It is mathmetically impossible to manufacture a product with 75% Whey Protein like they claim and still make a profit.Unless, everybody is only making a $1 a bottle which I know is not the case.The reason this angers  me, is they are selling product, that will never make label claim and misleading consumers.It would be like going to the gas station and paying for high octane racing fuel and getting only pump gas.

Ask Dante, or anybody.Good quallity Whey protein costs, a good amount of money to make.There isnt a protein fairly that makes this magical cheap Whey Protein.A good quality 2lb Whey Protein should retail for around $29-$34 per bottle.
Fellas, dont buy this shit at Walmart, or Target, because this is not good quality protein.
I have purchased several bottles, from these stores and I am going to have them assayed, and I will post the assays on my website.I am going to Assay, Body Fortress, EAS,Pure Protein,and Six Star protein.

I have seen independent lab assays from Body Fortress protein and it came uo only being 38% protein.

We are talking about consumers paying $14 a bottle for a $3.50 bottle of protein.
The sad reality is, companies like AST, Bio-plex, and True Protein look greedy because they are making 'real " proteiin powders that costs more money to make.How can companies like myself, and the others I mentioned when what they are selling is garbage.A bottle of AST VP2 retails for $49, but sells for $31 on BODYBUILDING.COM.This is more then twice the price of Body Fortress for a 2lb bottle of protein.The diffrence is one is 90% protein the other is 38% if your lucky.

The poor consumers, think they are getting a bargain, but they might aswell just buy powdered Milk .It will be cheaper, and probably have more protein.

When these lab assays hit the web, these companies will scatter like ants, lol.When they claim 23grams of protein and the lab assay comes up at 7-10 grams of protein.WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO SAY???????????


thank you for posting this, you are 100% correct, most whey protein on the market is total crap!

if you're going to spend your hard earned $ on whey protein then get the best, 100% pure isolate: http://www.ironmaglabs.com/whey-protein-isolate.php

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #67 on: July 24, 2009, 12:01:06 PM »
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WE USE REAL Epherdra with 25mg of Alklaloids


Could you please explain us how this is possible-just out of curiosity?

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #68 on: July 24, 2009, 09:00:39 PM »
As far as ephedra goes, some companies put sometimes up to 400mg of Ephedra.But what matters is how many alkaloids it contains.The Alklaloids are what give you the jolt.Ephedra Leaf or Mormon Tea, do not contain any alklaloids.
Most products that have EPhedra in them use either 10mg, or max 25mg.If a product has 25 mg of Ephdra, 300mg of Caffiene, and 100 mg of White Willow, this is called the ECA stack.There is actual clinical studies that has proven ECA, burns fat like crazy.
Ephedra is like Alcohol, the more potent it is, the more it will give your energy.The Amount of alklaloids, it is like the proof of alcohol, the higher the proof the stonrger the bevarage.
If you buy ephdra always ask the percentage of alklaoids.If a bottle has 300mg of Ephdra and has 10% alakloids, that would be 30mg of Ephdra alkaloids per serving.If a bottle has 300mg and only has 5% alkalods then it only has 15mg of Ephedra ALKLOIDS..
You want atleast 10mg of Alkaloids, but if you have a high tolerence you might need 25-50mg.But thats alot.

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #69 on: July 24, 2009, 09:02:47 PM »
thank you for posting this, you are 100% correct, most whey protein on the market is total crap!

if you're going to spend your hard earned $ on whey protein then get the best, 100% pure isolate: http://www.ironmaglabs.com/whey-protein-isolate.php
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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2009, 09:05:22 PM »
are you saying vince eats too much soy?
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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2009, 09:19:55 PM »
Ephedra Leaf or Mormon Tea, do not contain any alklaloids.


Then why do you sell a product with ephedra leaf? Does your Blade Hardcore 3.0 contain ephedrine or not? If it contains ephedrine then you are selling an illegal product and companies like bodybuilding.com will drop you in a hurry if they find out. If it does not contain ephedrine then you are using the "ephedra leaf" on the label as a way to fool the customer. It would be a shit product, as that's what you've been preaching here. Either way it's fraudulent.

bb.com statement:
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Ephedra Was Banned On April 12th, 2004

Luckily, we have a lot of products that are just as good! The North American species of Ephedra does not contain ephedrine alkaloids, therefore making it a legal product ingredient. This species is commonly refered to as desert herb, squaw tea, Brigham tea, and Mormon tea. Below is a list of products that we carry containing the North American species of ephedra.

I'm also curious what this ingredient is supposed to be: $-Hydroxyphenyl

If a product has 25 mg of Ephdra, 300mg of Caffiene, and 100 mg of White Willow, this is called the ECA stack.

Learn the difference between ephedra and ephedrine.


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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2009, 11:15:27 PM »
Van, I know the diffrenece between Ephdera, and Ephedrine, do you?
As far as bodybuilding.com goes, we make a special product for them thay contains Ephedra Leaf.
We take 2 diffrent versions of the Blade 3.0, with Alklaoids and Without Alkaloids

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2009, 01:00:17 AM »
Go and buy some real beef.

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Re: Which Whey?
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2009, 12:35:06 PM »

As far as bodybuilding.com goes, we make a special product for them thay contains Ephedra Leaf.
We take 2 diffrent versions of the Blade 3.0, with Alklaoids and Without Alkaloids

So you admit to making a shit product for bb.com. How do you figure you can criticize other companies for anything? You are a no ethics having guy. You should be ashamed. :D