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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2009, 09:24:23 PM »
If you're being serious with that comment, I'm a bit let down that my sarcasm didn't get through :(

The guy is referring to Staph Aureus as a virus and I was trying to say that's as absurd as calling a T Rex a lion (worse actually, cause it's two different kingdoms). Now's probably a good time to tell you I studied Microbiology with a Molecular Biology major at uni ;D




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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2009, 09:55:38 PM »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2009, 10:02:30 PM »
i got it back when i was 21.. got it on the back of my head.. first doc said was foliculitus.. it got worse.. went to a dermatologist.. said its mrsa. got it from a dirty bench press.. thats why its on the back of my head.. til this day it still flares up.. they said once u get it. its in your blood forever.. kind of like herpes...

actually sounds like it went into the bone and possibly cause osteomelitis. if you have this its very serious, you need an xray or MRI. It turns into a type of cancer for some people, eating away and infecting bones over time.. you are constantly on highly toxic antibiotics forever if they arent removing bone. I have a friend of the family who has this and most of his skull is now metal plates and his face covered in scars. major surgeries every year...All from a minor accident that happened to him at age 21. (a scrape on his shin that hit the bone) it keeps reappearing in diffrent bones in his body...coming to the surface etc.  Im sure it could come from the bone to the surface of the skin if that makes sense. You may have to have part of your skull removed.. no joke. if its indeed in your blood you need to be on antibiotics until it isnt.

You may have had a cut or open sore on your head when you got it. anyway, being that the bone is that close to the surface it couldve easily happened. scary. I dont mean to freak you out but youve got to get to the bottom of this. Dont let the docs shrug you off.

very important people... if you notice sore or rash on the skin it is very important to treat ASAP..even if you dont think it is MRSA. It could turn into that easily. Get some colloidal silver (kills everything) and pure tea tree oil, apply it to the area until it heals. antibiotics dont really do shit for this strain of staph..it is highly resistant. Everyone should keep these two things on hand, especially this time of year when so many are outdoors, getting bugbites, going to gyms, etc. staph thrives in hot humid environments.

once it gets into the blood or the bone, you need to be hospitalized.. any may never fully get rid of it. but dont let it get that far. VERY serious. thanks for posting, getitonny

i typed this out quickly and gotta run for a few.. hope you all can make sense of it

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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2009, 08:01:07 AM »
garlic has been shown effective.

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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2009, 09:12:02 AM »
actually sounds like it went into the bone and possibly cause osteomelitis. if you have this its very serious, you need an xray or MRI. It turns into a type of cancer for some people, eating away and infecting bones over time.. you are constantly on highly toxic antibiotics forever if they arent removing bone. I have a friend of the family who has this and most of his skull is now metal plates and his face covered in scars. major surgeries every year...All from a minor accident that happened to him at age 21. (a scrape on his shin that hit the bone) it keeps reappearing in diffrent bones in his body...coming to the surface etc.  Im sure it could come from the bone to the surface of the skin if that makes sense. You may have to have part of your skull removed.. no joke. if its indeed in your blood you need to be on antibiotics until it isnt.

You may have had a cut or open sore on your head when you got it. anyway, being that the bone is that close to the surface it couldve easily happened. scary. I dont mean to freak you out but youve got to get to the bottom of this. Dont let the docs shrug you off.

very important people... if you notice sore or rash on the skin it is very important to treat ASAP..even if you dont think it is MRSA. It could turn into that easily. Get some colloidal silver (kills everything) and pure tea tree oil, apply it to the area until it heals. antibiotics dont really do shit for this strain of staph..it is highly resistant. Everyone should keep these two things on hand, especially this time of year when so many are outdoors, getting bugbites, going to gyms, etc. staph thrives in hot humid environments.

once it gets into the blood or the bone, you need to be hospitalized.. any may never fully get rid of it. but dont let it get that far. VERY serious. thanks for posting, getitonny

i typed this out quickly and gotta run for a few.. hope you all can make sense of it

Good of you to take the time.  Thanks!  :)

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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2009, 09:20:17 AM »
garlic has been shown effective.
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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2009, 09:40:31 AM »
Whaaaaaaaaat?

1: J Med Microbiol. 2007 Jun;56(Pt 6):803-8. Links
Two diallyl sulphides derived from garlic inhibit meticillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus infection in diabetic mice.Tsao SM, Liu WH, Yin MC.
Department of Infection, Chung Shan Medical University Hospital, Taichung City, Taiwan, Republic of China.

The inhibitory effect of diallyl sulphide (DAS) and diallyl disulphide (DADS) against meticillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infection in diabetic mice was studied. The influence of these agents on the plasma levels of fibronectin, C-reactive protein (CRP), fibrinogen, interleukin (IL)-6 and tumour necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-alpha), and on the activity of plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1), antithrombin III (AT-III) and protein C, in MRSA-infected diabetic mice was examined. To induce diabetes, mice were treated intraperitoneally with streptozotocin for 5 consecutive days. Ten clinical MRSA isolates obtained from infected patients were used in this study. Diabetic mice were infected by injecting 200 microl MRSA/PBS suspension containing 10(7) c.f.u. via the tail vein. At day 4 post-infection, 200 microl DAS or DADS was administrated twice orally with an interval of 12 h. Eight hours after each administration, the blood and organs of mice were collected. Results showed that DAS and DADS significantly decreased MRSA viability in the kidney (P<0.05), with administration of each agent twice showing a greater inhibitory effect than when given once (P<0.05). MRSA infection in diabetic mice significantly elevated the plasma levels of IL-6 and TNF-alpha (P<0.05). DAS or DADS given once did not affect the plasma levels of IL-6 and TNF-alpha (P>0.05); however, DAS or DADS given twice significantly decreased the plasma levels of both IL-6 and TNF-alpha (P<0.05). DAS and DADS treatments also significantly reduced the plasma levels of CRP, fibronectin and fibrinogen (P<0.05). DAS or DADS treatment did not affect PAI-1 activity (P>0.05), but DAS or DADS given twice significantly increased AT-III activity (P<0.05). DADS given twice elevated protein C activity (P<0.05). MRSA infection significantly increased malondialdehyde levels in the kidney and spleen (P<0.05), and these levels were significantly decreased by treatment with DAS or DADS (P<0.05). These data suggest that DAS and DADS could provide multiple protective functions against MRSA infection in diabetic mice.

1: Br J Biomed Sci. 2004;61(2):71-4.Links
Antibacterial activity of a new, stable, aqueous extract of allicin against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.Cutler RR, Wilson P.
University of East London, School of Health and Bioscience, Stratford Campus, Romford Road, London E15 4LZ, UK. r.cutler@uel.ac.uk

The increasing prevalence of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) in hospitals and the community has led to a demand for new agents that could be used to decrease the spread of these bacteria. Topical agents such as mupirocin have been used to reduce nasal carriage and spread and to treat skin infections; however, resistance to mupirocin in MRSAs is increasing. Allicin is the main antibacterial agent isolated from garlic, but natural extracts can be unstable. In this study, a new, stable, aqueous extract of allicin (extracted from garlic) is tested on 30 clinical isolates of MRSA that show a range of susceptibilities to mupirocin. Strains were tested using agar diffusion tests, minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) and minimum bactericidal concentration (MBC). Diffusion tests showed that allicin liquids produced zone diameters >33 mm when the proposed therapeutic concentration of 500 microg/mL (0.0005% w/v) was used. The selection of this concentration was based on evidence from the MIC, MBC and agar diffusion tests in this study. Of the strains tested, 88% had MICs for allicin liquids of 16 microg/mL, and all strains were inhibited at 32 microg/mL. Furthermore, 88% of clinical isolates had MBCs of 128 microg/mL, and all were killed at 256 microg/mL. Of these strains, 82% showed intermediate or full resistance to mupirocin; however, this study showed that a concentration of 500 microg/mL in an aqueous cream base was required to produce an activity equivalent to 256 microg/mL allicin liquid.

1: J Antimicrob Chemother. 2003 Dec;52(6):974-80. Epub 2003 Oct 29. Links
Garlic extract and two diallyl sulphides inhibit methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus infection in BALB/cA mice.Tsao SM, Hsu CC, Yin MC.
Department of Infection, Chungshan Medical University Hospital, Taiwan, ROC.

OBJECTIVES: The inhibitory effect of garlic extract, diallyl sulphide and diallyl disulphide against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infection in BALB/cA mice was studied. The influence of these agents upon the levels of fibronectin, interleukin-6 and lipid oxidation in MRSA-infected mice was examined. METHODS: Garlic extract at 100% and 50%; diallyl sulphide (DAS) at 10% and 5%; diallyl disulphide (DADS) at 1% and 0.5% were used in this study. Sixteen clinical MRSA isolates obtained from infected patients were used in this study (n=16). Mice were infected by injecting 200 microL MRSA-PBS solution, which contained 10(7) cfu, via the tail vein. At 16 h post-infection (p.i.), garlic extract, DAS or DADS at 200 microL was administrated orally. At 24 h p.i., mice were killed and blood, liver, kidney and spleen of each mouse were collected. Plasma and the filtrate from each organ and serial dilutions were used to determine colony count. Plasma fibronectin level was determined by rabbit anti-rat fibronectin antibody and quantified by ELISA. Interleukin-6 levels were determined by commercial kit. Lipid oxidation was determined by measuring malondialdehyde levels. RESULTS: The oral administration of these agents significantly decreased the viability of MRSA, in plasma, liver, kidney and spleen (P<0.05). MRSA infection significantly increased fibronectin and interleukin-6 levels in plasma of MRSA-infected mice (P<0.05); however, the oral administration of garlic extract and two diallyl sulphides significantly reduced both fibronectin and interleukin-6 levels (P<0.05). MRSA infection also significantly enhanced lipid oxidation in plasma and three organs (P<0.05). The treatments of garlic extract and two diallyl sulphides significantly decreased the malondialdehyde level and showed antioxidant protection (P<0.05). CONCLUSIONS: These data strongly supported the conclusion that garlic extract, diallyl sulphide and diallyl disulphide possessed multiple protective functions against MRSA infection, in which diallyl sulphide and diallyl disulphide could be considered as novel therapeutic agents for the treatment of MRSA infection.


it woudl be hard to hay a multicenter study as lives are at stake, but garlic is a super herb for sure.

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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2009, 10:03:26 AM »
1: J Med Microbiol. 2007 Jun;56(Pt 6):803-8. Links
Two diallyl sulphides derived from garlic inhibit meticillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus infection in diabetic mice.Tsao SM, Liu WH, Yin MC.
Department of Infection, Chung Shan Medical University Hospital, Taichung City, Taiwan, Republic of China.

The inhibitory effect of diallyl sulphide (DAS) and diallyl disulphide (DADS) against meticillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infection in diabetic mice was studied. The influence of these agents on the plasma levels of fibronectin, C-reactive protein (CRP), fibrinogen, interleukin (IL)-6 and tumour necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-alpha), and on the activity of plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1), antithrombin III (AT-III) and protein C, in MRSA-infected diabetic mice was examined. To induce diabetes, mice were treated intraperitoneally with streptozotocin for 5 consecutive days. Ten clinical MRSA isolates obtained from infected patients were used in this study. Diabetic mice were infected by injecting 200 microl MRSA/PBS suspension containing 10(7) c.f.u. via the tail vein. At day 4 post-infection, 200 microl DAS or DADS was administrated twice orally with an interval of 12 h. Eight hours after each administration, the blood and organs of mice were collected. Results showed that DAS and DADS significantly decreased MRSA viability in the kidney (P<0.05), with administration of each agent twice showing a greater inhibitory effect than when given once (P<0.05). MRSA infection in diabetic mice significantly elevated the plasma levels of IL-6 and TNF-alpha (P<0.05). DAS or DADS given once did not affect the plasma levels of IL-6 and TNF-alpha (P>0.05); however, DAS or DADS given twice significantly decreased the plasma levels of both IL-6 and TNF-alpha (P<0.05). DAS and DADS treatments also significantly reduced the plasma levels of CRP, fibronectin and fibrinogen (P<0.05). DAS or DADS treatment did not affect PAI-1 activity (P>0.05), but DAS or DADS given twice significantly increased AT-III activity (P<0.05). DADS given twice elevated protein C activity (P<0.05). MRSA infection significantly increased malondialdehyde levels in the kidney and spleen (P<0.05), and these levels were significantly decreased by treatment with DAS or DADS (P<0.05). These data suggest that DAS and DADS could provide multiple protective functions against MRSA infection in diabetic mice.

1: Br J Biomed Sci. 2004;61(2):71-4.Links
Antibacterial activity of a new, stable, aqueous extract of allicin against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.Cutler RR, Wilson P.
University of East London, School of Health and Bioscience, Stratford Campus, Romford Road, London E15 4LZ, UK. r.cutler@uel.ac.uk

The increasing prevalence of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) in hospitals and the community has led to a demand for new agents that could be used to decrease the spread of these bacteria. Topical agents such as mupirocin have been used to reduce nasal carriage and spread and to treat skin infections; however, resistance to mupirocin in MRSAs is increasing. Allicin is the main antibacterial agent isolated from garlic, but natural extracts can be unstable. In this study, a new, stable, aqueous extract of allicin (extracted from garlic) is tested on 30 clinical isolates of MRSA that show a range of susceptibilities to mupirocin. Strains were tested using agar diffusion tests, minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) and minimum bactericidal concentration (MBC). Diffusion tests showed that allicin liquids produced zone diameters >33 mm when the proposed therapeutic concentration of 500 microg/mL (0.0005% w/v) was used. The selection of this concentration was based on evidence from the MIC, MBC and agar diffusion tests in this study. Of the strains tested, 88% had MICs for allicin liquids of 16 microg/mL, and all strains were inhibited at 32 microg/mL. Furthermore, 88% of clinical isolates had MBCs of 128 microg/mL, and all were killed at 256 microg/mL. Of these strains, 82% showed intermediate or full resistance to mupirocin; however, this study showed that a concentration of 500 microg/mL in an aqueous cream base was required to produce an activity equivalent to 256 microg/mL allicin liquid.

1: J Antimicrob Chemother. 2003 Dec;52(6):974-80. Epub 2003 Oct 29. Links
Garlic extract and two diallyl sulphides inhibit methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus infection in BALB/cA mice.Tsao SM, Hsu CC, Yin MC.
Department of Infection, Chungshan Medical University Hospital, Taiwan, ROC.

OBJECTIVES: The inhibitory effect of garlic extract, diallyl sulphide and diallyl disulphide against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infection in BALB/cA mice was studied. The influence of these agents upon the levels of fibronectin, interleukin-6 and lipid oxidation in MRSA-infected mice was examined. METHODS: Garlic extract at 100% and 50%; diallyl sulphide (DAS) at 10% and 5%; diallyl disulphide (DADS) at 1% and 0.5% were used in this study. Sixteen clinical MRSA isolates obtained from infected patients were used in this study (n=16). Mice were infected by injecting 200 microL MRSA-PBS solution, which contained 10(7) cfu, via the tail vein. At 16 h post-infection (p.i.), garlic extract, DAS or DADS at 200 microL was administrated orally. At 24 h p.i., mice were killed and blood, liver, kidney and spleen of each mouse were collected. Plasma and the filtrate from each organ and serial dilutions were used to determine colony count. Plasma fibronectin level was determined by rabbit anti-rat fibronectin antibody and quantified by ELISA. Interleukin-6 levels were determined by commercial kit. Lipid oxidation was determined by measuring malondialdehyde levels. RESULTS: The oral administration of these agents significantly decreased the viability of MRSA, in plasma, liver, kidney and spleen (P<0.05). MRSA infection significantly increased fibronectin and interleukin-6 levels in plasma of MRSA-infected mice (P<0.05); however, the oral administration of garlic extract and two diallyl sulphides significantly reduced both fibronectin and interleukin-6 levels (P<0.05). MRSA infection also significantly enhanced lipid oxidation in plasma and three organs (P<0.05). The treatments of garlic extract and two diallyl sulphides significantly decreased the malondialdehyde level and showed antioxidant protection (P<0.05). CONCLUSIONS: These data strongly supported the conclusion that garlic extract, diallyl sulphide and diallyl disulphide possessed multiple protective functions against MRSA infection, in which diallyl sulphide and diallyl disulphide could be considered as novel therapeutic agents for the treatment of MRSA infection.


it woudl be hard to hay a multicenter study as lives are at stake, but garlic is a super herb for sure.
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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2009, 10:32:19 AM »
garlic has been shown effective.

garlic/allicin would be good to take as part of the treatment, (it may slow the spread, or make one less suceptible to catching it in the first place) along with oregano oil..but the infection needs to be treated right at the site of the infection directly. nothing taken internally will do much for a staph infection on the surface of the skin. Oral antibiotics dont do anything...it is even resistant to Cipro.

pure ascorbic acid (vitamin C) both applied directly to the skin and taken internally may also be effective but will burn like a MF. stick with the colloidal silver and tea tree oil for the skin.

another suggestion to prevent getting this, disolve ascorbic acid in a bit of hot water and mix it with your body lotion. put that on before hitting the gym, etc..you will be protected. but dont wear your nice clothes! it will eat holes thru them eventually.

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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2009, 10:33:31 AM »
Good of you to take the time.  Thanks!  :)

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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2009, 10:46:32 AM »
garlic/allicin would be good to take as part of the treatment, (it may slow the spread, or make one less suceptible to catching it in the first place) along with oregano oil..but the infection needs to be treated right at the site of the infection directly. nothing taken internally will do much for a staph infection on the surface of the skin. Oral antibiotics dont do anything...it is even resistant to Cipro.

ascorbic acid (vitamin C) applied directly to the skin and taken internally may also be effective but will burn like a MF. stick with the colloidal silver and tea tree oil for the skin.

read the study ::)

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Re: Outbreak!!!!
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2009, 11:13:59 AM »
Fellas, there is now an out break of the MRSA Virus going around in gyms, and in the gay community.

I had to double check the date on this posting to make sure someone wasn't bumping some 2 year old thread.

MRSA is a problem, but this is nothing news.  Meticillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus use to be a problem only in hospitals, but now its pretty much everywhere.    You can pick up lots of staph infections at the gym, but the difference with MRSA is that it gets very bad very quickly.  But just contact on the skin is usually not enough.  It needs a skin break, such as a scratch or pimple.  To reduce the chance of getting MRSA, wash your hands often, and don't pick at sores or pimples.   and if you do get a skin infection, don't wait around hoping it gets better on its own.  it won't.  in fact, left untreated you could die.

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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2009, 11:46:25 AM »
I had to double check the date on this posting to make sure someone wasn't bumping some 2 year old thread.

MRSA is a problem, but this is nothing news.  Meticillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus use to be a problem only in hospitals, but now its pretty much everywhere.    You can pick up lots of staph infections at the gym, but the difference with MRSA is that it gets very bad very quickly.  But just contact on the skin is usually not enough.  It needs a skin break, such as a scratch or pimple.  To reduce the chance of getting MRSA, wash your hands often, and don't pick at sores or pimples.   and if you do get a skin infection, don't wait around hoping it gets better on its own.  it won't.  in fact, left untreated you could die.

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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2009, 01:53:06 AM »
That's it me and you are gonna have to throw hands.  Get board members to send $40,000.00 in cash to my po box so we can set up a cagefight.

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