Kiyoshi Moody looks good by himself, but you stand him next to a guy who is on anabolics he doesnt look as impressive.He didnt even place in top 10 at the USA, I think.He help his own, but he did get beat pretty bad.He is to tall, and his legs, arent nealy as thick, dense or ripped as the other guys.So I think Kiyoshi Moody could be natural,he has decent arms, and nice shoulders, but other then that he is okay.He has small bones and round muscle bellies, and you can tell he is naturally lean.