SEVASTASE, I am really sorry for you.(See my todays pic..)

[HICKSON]

Is that Chick celerbrating his 2008 masters win?

[Mr Nobody]

Ok kyomu I think you got Sev beat in mass what about Steve Namat?

[3Dkiller]

congrats you are looking good

[kyomu]

Ok kyomu I think you got Sev beat in mass what about Steve Namat?

I always say he is stupid and I think he is.
But when it comes to physic, Hahahahahahhahahahahhaha hahhaaaa!!!
HE IS A PRO! piriod!

[Mr Nobody]

I always say he is stupid and I think he is.
But when it comes to physic, Hahahahahahhahahahahhaha hahhaaaa!!!
HE IS A PRO! piriod!

Yes of course but he is a steroid user you are natural right?

[kyomu]

Yes of course but he is a steroid user you are natural right?

But we are talking about the appearance only no?

[Mr Nobody]

But we are talking about the appearance only no?

We are talking you arent a steriod user right? All natural

[kyomu]

We are talking you arent a steriod user right? All natural

In these 3 months(after the show), I havent even taken supps.
I did only one and last cycle in my life at 1993.

[kiwiol]

In these 3 months(after the show), I havent even taken supps.

You don't really need them - they just make your life convenient or fill in gaps when you don't have enough time or energy to eat properly or regularly.

[kyomu]

You don't really need them - they just make your life convenient or fill in gaps when you don't have enough time or energy to eat properly or regularly.

100% agreed.
Paco believes in supps(especialy creatine). I dont. We often argue about it.

[uberman09]

spermastase looking good with hair.

[Mr Nobody]

100% agreed.
Paco believes in supps(especialy creatine). I dont. We often argue about it.

Creatine works only supplement I believe in

[kyomu]

Creatine works only supplement I believe in

Creatine causes me a diarrhea.

[gh15]

In these 3 months(after the show), I havent even taken supps.
I did only one and last cycle in my life at 1993.

and that one cycle was enough to put you in new minimum which is what you are now holding,,neverthe less in your case what make you look decent is condition,,size is like with all asian bodybuilder ilussion ,,the actual size of you next to hormonized lifter you dissapear in comparisson

when one is 210lb 8% and one is 175lb 8% ,,no matter how good the muscle of the 175 fella look like,,no matter how good of muscle shape he has,,,the 210lb lifter will always make him UNNOTICABLE the moment they stand next to eachother,,

meaning a woman that see you in comparison to 200+ lb lbodybuilder,,will always always say you look small and will not believe to poundage claimed to be lifted by you ,,and the 200lb fella she will consider big and strong,,its just the way nature is and the way people who do not understand bodybuilding think and that what counts in the real world ,,,OUTSIDE THE GYM

the problem, with naturals or guys who been clean for long long time to a lesser degree ,,is that they never look like they even lift weight with out a pump,, meaning put a shirt on them wake them up in the morning let them walk a little 3-4 hours later and if they step outside youd never even guess they lift weight becaue they look flat and especially when single digit body fat ,,natural lifters with no pump look ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE,,in your case its a little better since you been clean for long time not truly natural but still with out pump its not a nice sight

remember fellas the women and people around see you WITH NO PUMP in clubs,,in grocery stores,,in mall,,in whatever you do they always see you with no pump,,

HORMONES ARE THE ONLY TOOLS WHOL WILL GIVE YOU A CONSTANT PUMP LOOK THAT WILL ALWAYS MAKE YOU LOOK BIG NO MATTER GYM OR NOT GYM ,,NO MATTER IF YOU FUCK UP YOUR DIET OR NOT,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO HORMONES IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO MISTAKE IN BODYBUILDER AND NOT FEEL IT OR FEEL IT TO MINIMUM DEGREE,, ANY OTHER MISTAKE FOR NATURAL = LOST OF GAINS AND LOST OF GAINS = NO BODYBUILDER

mj15 approved

[dave19]

You look great kyomu but those arms don't look like 46cm.

[Mr Nobody]

Creatine causes me a diarrhea.

take the capsules

[kyomu]

and that one cycle was enough to put you in new minimum which is what you are now holding,,neverthe less in your case what make you look decent is condition,,size is like with all asian bodybuilder ilussion ,,the actual size of you next to hormonized lifter you dissapear in comparisson

when one is 210lb 8% and one is 175lb 8% ,,no matter how good the muscle of the 175 fella look like,,no matter how good of muscle shape he has,,,the 210lb lifter will always make him UNNOTICABLE the moment they stand next to eachother,,

meaning a woman that see you in comparison to 200+ lb lbodybuilder,,will always always say you look small and will not believe to poundage claimed to be lifted by you ,,and the 200lb fella she will consider big and strong,,its just the way nature is and the way people who do not understand bodybuilding think and that what counts in the real world ,,,OUTSIDE THE GYM

the problem, with naturals or guys who been clean for long long time to a lesser degree ,,is that they never look like they even lift weight with out a pump,, meaning put a shirt on them wake them up in the morning let them walk a little 3-4 hours later and if they step outside youd never even guess they lift weight becaue they look flat and especially when single digit body fat ,,natural lifters with no pump look ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE,,in your case its a little better since you been clean for long time not truly natural but still with out pump its not a nice sight

remember fellas the women and people around see you WITH NO PUMP in clubs,,in grocery stores,,in mall,,in whatever you do they always see you with no pump,,

HORMONES ARE THE ONLY TOOLS WHOL WILL GIVE YOU A CONSTANT PUMP LOOK THAT WILL ALWAYS MAKE YOU LOOK BIG NO MATTER GYM OR NOT GYM ,,NO MATTER IF YOU FUCK UP YOUR DIET OR NOT,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO HORMONES IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO MISTAKE IN BODYBUILDER AND NOT FEEL IT OR FEEL IT TO MINIMUM DEGREE,, ANY OTHER MISTAKE FOR NATURAL = LOST OF GAINS AND LOST OF GAINS = NO BODYBUILDER

mj15 approved

Oh god. You are so helpless.
I have never been big like this in 1993. Never.
You had better go to hospital.
The fat guy next me is just fat. Paco and I are always laughing at him. You dont know anything as usual.
And These are ABSOLUTELY NO PUMP PICS. You are helpless.

[kyomu]

You look great kyomu but those arms don't look like 46cm.

Then how much do they look like?

[gh15]

Oh god. You are so helpless.
I have never been big like this in 1993. Never.
You had better go to hospital.
The fat guy next me is just fat. Paco and I are always laughing at him. You dont know anything as usual.
And These are ABSOLUTELY NO PUMP PICS. You are helpless.

im nto trying to insult you thats what you do not get! but in the pictures i look at you look every bit of your size nothing more,,just what you weight in between 70-80 kg,,thats what it look ,,it does not look big ,,and guys with same mesurement that weigth 90-100kg will wipe the floor with you in comparrison ,,ESPECIALLY WITH NO PUMP

again it doesnt mean you look bad,,this is not insult ,,its just clarification ,,and trust me i know what im saying to the t because i have 10f of yous coming to me on regular basis for advices,,people do nto understand that the only way to truly grow is the use of hormones,,

you are at your absolut max,,you will never even gain 1 kg extra of lean mass,, you are done ,,all of what youll do now is look same way from year to year,,if you look diff it will mean one thing: the use of hormone has restarted

mj15 approved

[Mr Nobody]

im nto trying to insult you thats what you do not get! but in the pictures i look at you look every bit of your size nothing more,,just what you weight in between 70-80 kg,,thats what it look ,,it does not look big ,,and guys with same mesurement that weigth 90-100kg will wipe the floor with you in comparrison ,,ESPECIALLY WITH NO PUMP

again it doesnt mean you look bad,,this is not insult ,,its just clarification ,,and trust me i know what im saying to the t because i have 10f of yous coming to me on regular basis for advices,,people do nto understand that the only way to truly grow is the use of hormones,,

you are at your absolut max,,you will never even gain 1 kg extra of lean mass,, you are done ,,all of what youll do now is look same way from year to year,,if you look diff it will mean one thing: the use of hormone has restarted

mj15 approved

kyomu Dennis knows what he is talking about here he is a Pro

[kyomu]

im nto trying to insult you thats what you do not get! but in the pictures i look at you look every bit of your size nothing more,,just what you weight in between 70-80 kg,,thats what it look ,,it does not look big ,,and guys with same mesurement that weigth 90-100kg will wipe the floor with you in comparrison ,,ESPECIALLY WITH NO PUMP

again it doesnt mean you look bad,,this is not insult ,,its just clarification ,,and trust me i know what im saying to the t because i have 10f of yous coming to me on regular basis for advices,,people do nto understand that the only way to truly grow is the use of hormones,,

you are at your absolut max,,you will never even gain 1 kg extra of lean mass,, you are done ,,all of what youll do now is look same way from year to year,,if you look diff it will mean one thing: the use of hormone has restarted

mj15 approved

In 1996 I was in contest with 72kg. Then how could I gain my mass without hormone?

[kyomu]

kyomu Dennis knows what he is talking about here he is a Pro

He is just a local drug dealer. Thats it.

[musclepug]

Sevastase is a dellusional little fuck!! With bad teeth and a bald head! This fucking idiot makes me sick.

[kyomu]

Sevastase is a dellusional little fuck!! With bad teeth and a bald head! This fucking idiot makes me sick.

And he is mentaly illed.

[dustin]

and that one cycle was enough to put you in new minimum which is what you are now holding,,neverthe less in your case what make you look decent is condition,,size is like with all asian bodybuilder ilussion ,,the actual size of you next to hormonized lifter you dissapear in comparisson

when one is 210lb 8% and one is 175lb 8% ,,no matter how good the muscle of the 175 fella look like,,no matter how good of muscle shape he has,,,the 210lb lifter will always make him UNNOTICABLE the moment they stand next to eachother,,

meaning a woman that see you in comparison to 200+ lb lbodybuilder,,will always always say you look small and will not believe to poundage claimed to be lifted by you ,,and the 200lb fella she will consider big and strong,,its just the way nature is and the way people who do not understand bodybuilding think and that what counts in the real world ,,,OUTSIDE THE GYM

the problem, with naturals or guys who been clean for long long time to a lesser degree ,,is that they never look like they even lift weight with out a pump,, meaning put a shirt on them wake them up in the morning let them walk a little 3-4 hours later and if they step outside youd never even guess they lift weight becaue they look flat and especially when single digit body fat ,,natural lifters with no pump look ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE,,in your case its a little better since you been clean for long time not truly natural but still with out pump its not a nice sight

remember fellas the women and people around see you WITH NO PUMP in clubs,,in grocery stores,,in mall,,in whatever you do they always see you with no pump,,

HORMONES ARE THE ONLY TOOLS WHOL WILL GIVE YOU A CONSTANT PUMP LOOK THAT WILL ALWAYS MAKE YOU LOOK BIG NO MATTER GYM OR NOT GYM ,,NO MATTER IF YOU FUCK UP YOUR DIET OR NOT,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO HORMONES IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO MISTAKE IN BODYBUILDER AND NOT FEEL IT OR FEEL IT TO MINIMUM DEGREE,, ANY OTHER MISTAKE FOR NATURAL = LOST OF GAINS AND LOST OF GAINS = NO BODYBUILDER

mj15 approved

Truer words were never spoken. You're THICK and full at all times. Even if you're smaller, your thickness and round muscle bellies will look at least 200% better than someone with the same weight, conditioning and proportions. The natural can have 5 more years training under their belt and it won't matter unless they have sensational genetics (and should be juicing to push their natural limits even further).

The only thing I don't really agree with is the impressive physiques of some true naturals or people who've only tinkered with hormones. I think Kyomu looks amazing. The part that's somewhat true is that when you're covered up and not pumped, it's usually underwhelming. Even if you're wearing revealing clothing most naturals won't turn any heads. A gym rat on half a gram of androgens, sloppy training and an average diet will get a lot of second looks. Life isn't always fair.

It's reasons like this that make me want throw down and just juice until my dying days. Once my natural hormone levels vary greatly I am going on HRT for life.