my "spank bank" is full for a year

[ManBearPig...]

is it possible to carry on a relationship while working as a stripper, Proto and Johnny?

I've already decided if I am ever single again, I'm going to work as a male escort/ manwhore.  I'll work in the cougar field, 35 to 45 years old.  5 to 8 dates per week maybe?

What kind of rate would I want to charge?  

Deuce Bigalow started at $10 per date.

[johnnynoname]

Great post Johnny!

I had a very similar experience on the weekend. Put whipped cream on each nipple, then down my abs and all over my tool. Then you put the towel up to give them some 'privacy' and alone time with your junk and they take the whole lot! lol.

I work in Melbourne, Australia.

I do the towel and whipcream thing as well.  I also have a baby oil portion of the show as well

the thing with whip cream is that if you are doing a show at a apartment with carpetting you have to be really careful

their will be instances that the girls will be really turned on by the fact that they will lick whip cream off me but at the same time will yell "just don't get any on the carpet"

another thing that i do sometimes is use the cuts in my abs as a resivior (sp) to drink liquor/beer out of.  I have to be laid down to do this obviously

is it true that the girls in austrailia are really man hungry? Like, they aren't timid at all- they will basically rape a dude

Johnny - do you ever get cock injuries, with girls trying to grab your cock etc, and getting over-enthusiastic, yanking it, or accidentally scratching it with their nails (or biting it when trying to do a drunken bj on it!)? It would be a serious worry for me if I was ever to do that at a hen's party!

no scratches but i will get a gal who tugs to hard sometimes which i really don't mind.

I remember when i first started, i got advice that you should always let the girl know if she crosses the line by telling her gently "too hard" or "not there, honey".  That advice was lost on me cuz i really don't have no limits- i'll take "love" anyway i can get it.

I do, however, get a gal who likes to bite my nipples too hard.  To which i respond with a painfull laughter cuz it is ticklish and painful at the same time.

is it possible to carry on a relationship while working as a stripper, Proto and Johnny?

I've already decided if I am ever single again, I'm going to work as a male escort/ manwhore.  I'll work in the cougar field, 35 to 45 years old.  5 to 8 dates per week maybe?

What kind of rate would I want to charge?  

it's possible to have a relationship but a girlfriend will  ALWAYS be jealous no matter how understanding she says she is.

the best thing to do is to lay it out on the table with your partner.
the thing is i'm not one for monogomy so i really haven't had to deal with the relationship issue.  But, i'm assuming that honesty is always the best policy

as for an escort rate, always charge at a premium and it is up to the client whether they want to pay that.  Don't sell yourself short- the idea is to get the most (money wise) out of your dates rather than doing a bunch of dates at a low rate.  I would say that you should charge (minimally) 500 for the hour/session.  Then their are instances where you will spend a weekend with a client where you can charge much more.

DON't GO THE CRAIGSLIST ROUTE.  Find a girl who knows alot of rich broads and have her refer you.  And yes, this is the same thing that happens in the HBO show "HUNG" which makes me suspect that one of the writers did their research really well.

jnn, I've recently been inspired by you to be more conscious of my appearance. I'm already pretty lean and people ask me all the time what I eat and any time anybody at work sees me drinking or eating anything they always want to know what it is. I hate them for that.

Now living in Hawaii, being outdoors a lot, and being of dubious ethnic origins, I sport a pretty good year round tan. Nothing world class mind you but certainly more than enough walk around color to mix in with the natives. But looking at you I just don't quite have that golden god like bronze -- almost mahogany-like hue -- that you've manage to achieve. It's reminiscent of George Hamilton in his prime. Do you use a bronzing lotion and, if so, are there any you recommend? And how do you put it on your back? I don't have any chest, back or belly hair so I think I'd take well to bronzing lotions. Any help or advice will be appreciated.

BTW, nothing wrong with your hair style. Love it. There's a pixie yet dangerous quality to it not unlike Bruce Lee in The Return of the Dragon. 

I love return of the dragon.  I don't know what was more memorable- the final fight or chuck norris' body hair
actually, i'm growing out my bangs alittle and, well, lets just say that my hairstyle will be like a male version of what Rihanna has

I've always cycled between two lotions
one is strictly a bronzer (oc 10x by rsun)

and the other is a tingling lotion with bronzer (oc out of control by rsun)  Warning- this one is HOT


you can get them on ebay for a really good price.  their is a seller on ebay called wholesaletansforu that sells it at the best price

I don't worry about getting lotion on my back.  i tends to even out somehow without lotion

BTW,don't be inspired by to look better.  Vanity will ultimately lead to my downfall- I forsee my death coming as a result of a freak anal bleaching accident

[Prototype]

Johnny - do you ever get cock injuries, with girls trying to grab your cock etc, and getting over-enthusiastic, yanking it, or accidentally scratching it with their nails (or biting it when trying to do a drunken bj on it!)? It would be a serious worry for me if I was ever to do that at a hen's party!

I injured my dick tying it off.  Dancing around, your tool isn't exactly hanging, all the blood is going else where. Not to mention that you sometimes are wearing a g-string, underwear and 1 or 2 pairs of tear-away pants that is cramming everything in. Tying it off sounded like a great idea, have a massie hang that you can really give them a show with. Wasn't sure how to do it properly, how hard could it be though? Just put an elastic band around it. So about 10 minutes before I was about to go on stage I got my piece all nice and warmed up and put a rubber band around the shaft, sealing in the goodness, I was really proud of this one. Well when I was down to my underwear, I could see girls eyes bulging and whispering to their girlfriend's just staring at the mass of man flesh stuffed in my jocks.  It was great. Nothing like having 140 women screaming, worshipping your cock. I secretly took the band off before exposing myself and the girls went wild, they loved it. So did I. It was a master stroke of genius, went perfect...........

I used a different elastic band the following week though. The band was a bit bigger so I put it around twice...... bad idea. Felt a bit constricted. No one noticed but when I got back stage after the show I inspected my dick and to my horror it looked like I had a BRIGHT PURPLE TESTICLE GROWING OUT THE SIDE OF MY SHAFT!!!!

My dick was purple all week. I healed ok but too scared to try it again. Had mainly been doing stage shows anyway, there is minimal penile exposure and it's more about entertaining performance.  Coming into warmer months and will be doing more 'raunchy' house parties and hotel room parties. Plus I've been watching videos on 'Tales of the Dancing Bear' website, which is totally fuking awesome. So I'll be trying it again, doing it properly though this time.

[Prototype]

I've been injured doing topless waitering, bitten very hard while holding a full tray of drinks.

Nipple biting, teeth marks left on my traps, squirrel gripped, woman tried to finger rape my ass. I'm glad I don't do it anymore and do stripping instead. I did make a lot of money doing waitering though. We got paid $80 dollars cash for 4 hours work which is not good but I made up for it in tips.  One time I made over $500, averaged around $200.

As a stripper I seem to, like Johnny said, have almost permanently scuffed knees, either from doing a knee slide, dry humping, or doing Patrick Swayze style knee spins.

I did strain a bicep lifting a particular large islander girl for dance move the other week.

I always wake up the next morning with miscellaneous soreness, cuts, bruises and abrasions that I have absolutely no idea how they got there.  I don't drink either.

[johnnynoname]

I injured my dick tying it off.  Dancing around, your tool isn't exactly hanging, all the blood is going else where. Not to mention that you sometimes are wearing a g-string, underwear and 1 or 2 pairs of tear-away pants that is cramming everything in. Tying it off sounded like a great idea, have a massie hang that you can really give them a show with. Wasn't sure how to do it properly, how hard could it be though? Just put an elastic band around it. So about 10 minutes before I was about to go on stage I got my piece all nice and warmed up and put a rubber band around the shaft, sealing in the goodness, I was really proud of this one. Well when I was down to my underwear, I could see girls eyes bulging and whispering to their girlfriend's just staring at the mass of man flesh stuffed in my jocks.  It was great. Nothing like having 140 women screaming, worshipping your cock. I secretly took the band off before exposing myself and the girls went wild, they loved it. So did I. It was a master stroke of genius, went perfect...........

I used a different elastic band the following week though. The band was a bit bigger so I put it around twice...... bad idea. Felt a bit constricted. No one noticed but when I got back stage after the show I inspected my dick and to my horror it looked like I had a BRIGHT PURPLE TESTICLE GROWING OUT THE SIDE OF MY SHAFT!!!!

My dick was purple all week. I healed ok but too scared to try it again. Had mainly been doing stage shows anyway, there is minimal penile exposure and it's more about entertaining performance.  Coming into warmer months and will be doing more 'raunchy' house parties and hotel room parties. Plus I've been watching videos on 'Tales of the Dancing Bear' website, which is totally fuking awesome. So I'll be trying it again, doing it properly though this time.

lol. tying off is serious business

the thing with tying off is that you have to work up to the point where you can handle 45 minutes.  Also, it helps to "air out" the "Tye off" every once and while while performing. 

I use the thinnest rubber band i can get and i also do a double tye around.  also, using KY and being shaved is key as well. 

the funny thing is if you have a small waist then you would wear like a size small thong. but the problem is you will have alot of trouble fitting a tied off cock into a size small thong.  so you have to find one that has alot of room in front or go for one of those "cock sock" ones

but it is WELL WORTH it in the long run

another tip, is to work yourself to a certain point, tye off, wait for the blood to accumulate then take of the band and start working cranking it again then tye off.  what happens here is that you will be working on a already engorged cock (lol) and getting even more blood in their.  think of it as the equivalent of a "drop set" in weight lifting

and yes, the bruised knees is like a stripper's cauliflower ear.  I'm getting to the point that i'm semi scarred/calloused in that area.  it is mostly from the dry humping on cheap apartment carpets. 

btw, i too enjoy "dancing bear" but i think that the crowd is a mix of real girls and pornstars and most of the girls who are actually doing "the work" are the pornstars.

god bless austrailia and the horny women cuz only there could a man work as a topless waiter and not have to work at a gay restaurant

[Prototype]

I don't wear g-strings usually. I think it looks gay. I will just wear 2-xist underwear, they look good.

If I do a g-string show I may just not wear one and just get nude under a towel and not show anything. Sometimes I will wear it, but i'm not showing my dick so no point tying it off really. If they asked for a g-string show it's a tamer show anyway, mostly PG rated lol

I've just been wearing the cock sock that you get when you get waxed or a spray tan lol. its just a string, almot nude. It somehow seems less gay haha.

I read a female pornstar's account of when she worked on the 'dancing bear' site.  She said she was paid for a girl/girl scene for it but the rest of the girls were amateurs. You're right it would be some actresses doing the full sex scenes i'm sure. The reactions are real, I would say most of those are regular girls. It's fucking great lol.

Another trick is to put a towel over the girl's head while you have nothing on. I haven't done it in my show but my friend does it and they take a nibble of it quite a lot of the time lol.

I do an part with baby/ massage oil. They sometimes say 'don't get that on the carpet' too. Sometimes I just use the same bottle and put water in it. Same effect almost but the girls only get a bit of water on them they don't get covered in oil.

I'm going to do some 'enlargement exercises.' I have tried them in the past and it definitely worked, it definitely gained size, fuller and longer just during the day. Also had fuller, harder erections. Was too lazy to keep it up though. Dancing Bear has inspired me. They just can't resist abs of steel and a big swinging dick with cream on it lol.

Thanks for the tying off tips!

[Prototype]

Topless waitering you can sent out to private parties at a house, hotel or nightclub. Rate is usually $50 dollars an hour. I mainly worked on a male review boat cruise that goes up the yarra river.

The amount of guys that are brave enough to actually do this is very low.  I always get asked if they can come and work on there but when I tell them there is a spot available they chicken out.

is it true that the girls in austrailia are really man hungry? Like, they aren't timid at all- they will basically rape a dude

Hmmm..... I wouldn't say that necessarily. Where did you hear that?

As you've seen the more opportunity you give them, ie. dangling a cream covered tied off dong in their face... they are more likely to take advantage of that lol.

I would have thought American girls were pretty crazy.  When I was over there competing in the Musclemania, I got a lot of very blatant attention from black women there. They seem fun.

Girls from overseas always seem more sexual, friendlier, better looking though.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Interesting thread, thank you Johnny!

[CalvinH]

I put alot of effort in not getting laid.

My life is a movie called  "the 30 year old egomaniac who gets laid like he was the 40 year old virgin"

johnny,a little friendly advice.try a little reverse thinking.go out get drunk and not worry about getting laid.
it works like a charm for me

[johnnynoname]

I don't wear g-strings usually. I think it looks gay. I will just wear 2-xist underwear, they look good.

If I do a g-string show I may just not wear one and just get nude under a towel and not show anything. Sometimes I will wear it, but i'm not showing my dick so no point tying it off really. If they asked for a g-string show it's a tamer show anyway, mostly PG rated lol

I've just been wearing the cock sock that you get when you get waxed or a spray tan lol. its just a string, almot nude. It somehow seems less gay haha.

you ever try two thongs?
like you would have ripaways, regular underwear, one "big thong" and then a smaller one under that.

the only thing is you can't tie off cuz that smaller thong is so small that the front part won't leave much to the imagination. 
however if you do a "PG" show then it won't matter cuz you don't have to tie off

lately, i've been tempted to tie off even though i'm not going fully nude?  Just so i can give them the illusion.  You know better than anyone that the bulge is a big turn on

I remember picking up that towel over the head trick on the internet when i first started.  It was  on a cfnm site.  actually, when i go "nude" that is the way i do it that way no one will get offended (if there is such thing)

i forgot where i heard about australian girls being extra horny

and yes, the black girls in the US are way flirtier with good looking white dudes

also, black girls go nuts when you suck there toes during a show.  I know this from experience

[johnnynoname]

johnny,a little friendly advice.try a little reverse thinking.go out get drunk and not worry about getting laid.
it works like a charm for me

will do.

btw, doesn't anyone else see the irony that i can, easily, get a girl i have never met to nearly bite off my nipple but it is like trigonometry to get a chick i meet at the bar to blow


and mind you, i have a good approach and everything- it really is just a streak of bad luck.  Also, i think the fact that i'm getting so much addulation during these shows are spilling over to my love life.  In other words, i'm supplementing the attention I'm getting from stripping for the love i should be getting from sex.  This is why my shrink may think i have a "intimacy issue"

[gib]

Johnny - how often do your shows end up with you having full sex (either in public infront of the other girls, or in "private" on the premises - broom closet, bathroom, spare bedroom etc)? And for the improptu sex, are those all unprotected? (and do they end with you coming, and if so where do you do that? (in them, or on them? - presumably not on the carpet!)

Thanks - very interesting to hear about all this.

My experience with Oz women (not that I have stripped) is yes, they are as you have described (at least in a hens party where it all women around).

[ManBearPig...]

I've been injured doing topless waitering, bitten very hard while holding a full tray of drinks.

Nipple biting, teeth marks left on my traps, squirrel gripped, woman tried to finger rape my ass. I'm glad I don't do it anymore and do stripping instead. I did make a lot of money doing waitering though. We got paid $80 dollars cash for 4 hours work which is not good but I made up for it in tips.  One time I made over $500, averaged around $200.

As a stripper I seem to, like Johnny said, have almost permanently scuffed knees, either from doing a knee slide, dry humping, or doing Patrick Swayze style knee spins.

I did strain a bicep lifting a particular large islander girl for dance move the other week.

I always wake up the next morning with miscellaneous soreness, cuts, bruises and abrasions that I have absolutely no idea how they got there.  I don't drink either.

dude, you make it seem like you're out there building bridges.  relax, it's not that serious.

[CalvinH]

will do.

btw, doesn't anyone else see the irony that i can, easily, get a girl i have never met to nearly bite off my nipple but it is like trigonometry to get a chick i meet at the bar to blow


and mind you, i have a good approach and everything- it really is just a streak of bad luck.  Also, i think the fact that i'm getting so much addulation during these shows are spilling over to my love life.  In other words, i'm supplementing the attention I'm getting from stripping for the love i should be getting from sex.  This is why my shrink may think i have a "intimacy issue"

And stop making up stories.a good looking chick has heard them all and then some.besides the truth is much easier if you hit it more then once.you don't have to worry about getting caught about some bullshit you told her before.

[240 is Back]

very informative thread actually

[johnnynoname]

Johnny - how often do your shows end up with you having full sex (either in public infront of the other girls, or in "private" on the premises - broom closet, bathroom, spare bedroom etc)?

this all depends
if you are double or triple booked on one night then you usually don't have time for any "full sex" cuz you are hurrying to make the next show.  And trust me, i have never had a short trip between show to show- they seemed to be spread out in different towns in my case.  The exception to this rule is if you are on your last show...and that is someone is offering and if you want to stick around.  Honestly, come the last show I just want to go home and shower.  I know- how weird is that

However, I would be lying if I didn't hook up per se.  But still you want to play it by ear cuz you don't want to have to deal with someone saying that you took advantage of them while they were drunk

And for the improptu sex, are those all unprotected? (and do they end with you coming, and if so where do you do that? (in them, or on them? - presumably not on the carpet!)

all my sex is pretty much unprotected lol

also, this really isn't always full blown intercourse.  It is (most of the times) a blowjob or a quick screw (ala Eminem and Brittny Murphy in "8mile" when they are screwing in the factory)

but then again, it all goes back to if you have to rush to make another show and if you don't, do you want to stick around and just go home, take a shower and go to bed

it's funny here is one thing that i haven't mentioned
yeah- it is girls groping you and all but it really is just another job and it can (operative word is "can") get old after a while

[johnnynoname]

And stop making up stories.a good looking chick has heard them all and then some.besides the truth is much easier if you hit it more then once.you don't have to worry about getting caught about some bullshit you told her before.

exactly

the only reason i use the made up stories is really for my entertainment- it's not like i'm lying to make up for somesort of shortcoming- it is purely for entertainment

I love telling a girl that my real name is Kurt Sloane and that my brother used to be Kickboxing champion before he became paralyzed in Thailand

I'm not joking.. I have used that one

the best part about 18 year olds is that none of them have ever seen "Kickboxer"

but alas Calvin, that joking around is getting old and somewhat boring

[CalvinH]

exactly

the only reason i use the made up stories is really for my entertainment- it's not like i'm lying to make up for somesort of shortcoming- it is purely for entertainment

I love telling a girl that my real name is Kurt Sloane and that my brother used to be Kickboxing champion before he became paralyzed in Thailand

I'm not joking.. I have used that one

the best part about 18 year olds is that none of them have ever seen "Kickboxer"

but alas Calvin, that joking around is getting old and somewhat boring

Iv'e lied the other way.I once told the hottest girl at the bar I was a garbage man

[Prototype]

you ever try two thongs?
like you would have ripaways, regular underwear, one "big thong" and then a smaller one under that.

the only thing is you can't tie off cuz that smaller thong is so small that the front part won't leave much to the imagination. 
however if you do a "PG" show then it won't matter cuz you don't have to tie off

lately, i've been tempted to tie off even though i'm not going fully nude?  Just so i can give them the illusion.  You know better than anyone that the bulge is a big turn on

I remember picking up that towel over the head trick on the internet when i first started.  It was  on a cfnm site.  actually, when i go "nude" that is the way i do it that way no one will get offended (if there is such thing)

i forgot where i heard about australian girls being extra horny

and yes, the black girls in the US are way flirtier with good looking white dudes

also, black girls go nuts when you suck there toes during a show.  I know this from experience

No, never tried two thongs. My show only goes for 14 minutes normally, so no time for it.

I either get booked for a g-string show, fully nude show, raunchy strip or strawberries and cream. So no chance of offending anyone, they get what they paid for lol.

Do you do mixed parties? I did a 21st the other week and the guys were in another part of the house but I still get paid extra. After my show I heard some psycopath going berzerk while I was getting changed. I always get paid before the show so I had my cash, I slinked through the back gate, jumped in my car which was down the street and left.  Always get paid first and park a little down the street so no one does anything to your car was the advice I got lol.

[johnnynoname]

No, never tried two thongs. My show only goes for 14 minutes normally, so no time for it.

I either get booked for a g-string show, fully nude show, raunchy strip or strawberries and cream. So no chance of offending anyone, they get what they paid for lol.

Do you do mixed parties? I did a 21st the other week and the guys were in another part of the house but I still get paid extra. After my show I heard some psycopath going berzerk while I was getting changed. I always get paid before the show so I had my cash, I slinked through the back gate, jumped in my car which was down the street and left.  Always get paid first and park a little down the street so no one does anything to your car was the advice I got lol.

the 14 minute show is a your time on a revue show or your time on a house show were it is only you cuz i'm doing three songs (around 12 minutes) on the revue and alittle over 45 on "house" shows.

mixed shows is in male/female crowd?

[Prototype]

I do around 14 - 18 minutes for a review show usually, I use around 6 songs. I cut all the tracks myself so I shorten some of them so it fits better, add some voice overs sound effects etc.  I normally do the exact same show at a private show, house party / hotel etc. 

I watched all the shows as a waiter for a long time and I copied there formula, it's always the same.

If I get asked to do a 'raunchy' show that would entail the use of oil and more, dry humping, sexual show etc. that would cost extra and I just have an extra couple songs into the routine so it goes abit over 20 minutes.  If they want a 'strawberries and cream' show, that would involve more cost and more length of time and the use of whipped cream or another favorite dessert topping for some dancing bear action.  I can end the show at any time but it could go for 1/2 hour or longer depending on how much fun everyone's having (myself included) :-)

Mixed parties there could be guys in the audience yeah. Even if they are just at the house and not in the audience you still get paid more. If they are in the audience I only go down to underwear and keep it low key, as entertaining as possible, PG, no dancing bear style. lol

Then you get paid extra if you have to travel.

[johnnynoname]

I do around 14 - 18 minutes for a review show usually, I use around 6 songs. I cut all the tracks myself so I shorten some of them so it fits better, add some voice overs sound effects etc.  I normally do the exact same show at a private show, house party / hotel etc. 

I watched all the shows as a waiter for a long time and I copied there formula, it's always the same.

If I get asked to do a 'raunchy' show that would entail the use of oil and more, dry humping, sexual show etc. that would cost extra and I just have an extra couple songs into the routine so it goes abit over 20 minutes.  If they want a 'strawberries and cream' show, that would involve more cost and more length of time and the use of whipped cream or another favorite dessert topping for some dancing bear action.  I can end the show at any time but it could go for 1/2 hour or longer depending on how much fun everyone's having (myself included) :-)

Mixed parties there could be guys in the audience yeah. Even if they are just at the house and not in the audience you still get paid more. If they are in the audience I only go down to underwear and keep it low key, as entertaining as possible, PG, no dancing bear style. lol

Then you get paid extra if you have to travel.

nice, right now i'm the last guy on a three man revue show which sux cuz you don't get the crowd when they are fresh.  Also, in the states there are decency laws in bars so you can't get totally nude- you can't even do the towel trick

and yes, you do get more money when dudes are in the crowd- but THERE ARE DUDES IN THE CROWD lol
...but, the money is still green

[Prototype]

I made my shows entertaining enough that I could not get nude at all and it would stil be fun to watch.

I "think" we have some kind of decency laws. I remember my boss told me not to get changed while we were at the shore line because there is a window where we get changed, in danger of "public exposure" When the boat was on the water it was ok. Another time I ran through the whole boat naked and she said I couldn't do that because you couldn't be exposed for longer than 3 seconds or something. lol

I make up stories too! I get tired of the same kind of questions every week, "you must hate your job all these woman grabbing you?", "you must LOVE your job all these woman grabbing you", "is this your full time job?" "you must get asked this every week!", "what nationality are you?"

Since they don't beleive me that I'm Australian because I don't look it, I make up a different ethnicity every week.

Last week my real name was Antonio Juarez, dad is Brazilian. The beleived it and said 'oh Brazillian that expalians how you got that body!!'

It makes me laugh, otherwise I say 'Australian' and they say 'no you're not!' Then I have to hear it every week.

For a 30 minute show through an agent you should be getting paid $300, keeping 240 -250, paying $50 - $60 on commision.