Mr. Olympia 1996 (Top 6 Placing)

[Sherief Shalaby]

i am sure it's crystal clear from these pics that nasser was clearly bigger than dorian from the front and the size.. ND you wont be convinced i am sure but plz chec the side poses again and see how nasser's quads, arms, shoulders, chest all look like next to dorian's!!..

[Parker]

LOL so you're saying there is a certain critieria that no matter how much one bodybuilder excels over the other in all other bodyparts and areas, the back is magical in that lacking back detail relative to others will make you lose no matter what?  Then later when Jay's turn came that criteria was no longer valid?

And that the criteria doesn't apply to Flex or Phil?  Sounds like you're making up your own criteria as you go due to your love of Black bodybuilders

No, I used Flex and Phil as examples because they are considered heir apparents to the Mr. O titles during their respective eras and both are narrow, but have superior back detail. Flex more so than Phil. Being narrow is something you can't really change, back detail is something you can...Nasser never took the cahnce to etch in the detail, he was basically all mass, and thought he could get away with it...And as shown he was beten by a 224 pound Wheeler at the 1997 Arnold, whom Nasser said deserved the win, on record on video.

Now, Flex never could get his condition right for the Mr. O, and that is where Nasser soundly beat Flex,  at most of their meeting. And that is where NAsser ONLY excels over Flex...nothing more...

[Mr.1derful]

i am sure it's crystal clear from these pics that nasser was clearly bigger than dorian from the front and the size.. ND you wont be convinced i am sure but plz chec the side poses again and see how nasser's quads, arms, shoulders, chest all look like next to dorian's!!..

If I recall, Nasser got DQ'd from the contest, which means he cheated and still couldn't beat Yates. lol   Cheaters never prosper.

[MethodGNA]

i am sure it's crystal clear from these pics that nasser was clearly bigger than dorian from the front and the size.. ND you wont be convinced i am sure but plz chec the side poses again and see how nasser's quads, arms, shoulders, chest all look like next to dorian's!!..

the only thing that is crystal clear:

1)  you are a disgusting little homosexual

2)  everyone laughs at you, and you have no friends......save for the other members of team nasshole.....who too are laughed at by everyone else.

3)  you have NO fucking life, and way too much time on your hands

4)  your parents are ashamed of you

[Sherief Shalaby]

the only thing that is crystal clear:

1)  you are a disgusting little homosexual

2)  everyone laughs at you, and you have no friends......save for the other members of team nasshole.....who too are laughed at by everyone else.

3)  you have NO fucking life, and way too much time on your hands

4)  your parents are ashamed of you

look who is talking 

[PJim]

Some of you guys just don't understand the concept of meeting criteria. Dorian was the biggest taking conditioning into consideration, had the best overall package and presented it accordingly. I wouldn't even say I'd aspire to have a physique like Dorian's, I would prefer say Flex's, but I can see from a BODYBUILDING standpoint how Dorian won time and time again. Let's say Dorian lost 1 pose post-tear, front double biceps, (which in all reality displayed the immense thickness in his lats, forearms, shoulders and chest) he still wins all the mandatories. You couldnt even give Nasser the front relaxed because he was FAR from relaxed and don't get me started about his front lat-spread, to fully appreciate a lat spread the abs must be relaxed not contracted and hunched into! He WASN'T better from the side, side-tri, side-chest EASILY go to Dorian, just watch the video, don't rely on pictures, look at the thickness in Dorian's lower chest, look at the way he makes it a separate pose rather than merely a side most-muscular. The side-tri shows Dorian's thickness from head to toe, that pose more than any other in my opinion says it all. A lot of you guys complain that Dorian had small arms, but rate guys who had/have super heavyweight arms on a middleweight torso. Flex and Kevin for example, look at there side chest, great legs in Flex's case and great arms in Kev's, but where's the chest thickness? Hell, Nasser doesn't even pull his shoulder back far enough to appreciate it fully. I know a lot of you guys don't have a clue because you're the same guys who think that forearms and calves are unimportant. It comes down to something when the glutes are rated as more essential than calves.

[Parker]

Some of you guys just don't understand the concept of meeting criteria. Dorian was the biggest taking conditioning into consideration, had the best overall package and presented it accordingly. I wouldn't even say I'd aspire to have a physique like Dorian's, I would prefer say Flex's, but I can see from a BODYBUILDING standpoint how Dorian won time and time again. Let's say Dorian lost 1 pose post-tear, front double biceps, (which in all reality displayed the immense thickness in his lats, forearms, shoulders and chest) he still wins all the mandatories. You couldnt even give Nasser the front relaxed because he was FAR from relaxed and don't get me started about his front lat-spread, to fully appreciate a lat spread the abs must be relaxed not contracted and hunched into! He WASN'T better from the side, side-tri, side-chest EASILY go to Dorian, just watch the video, don't rely on pictures, look at the thickness in Dorian's lower chest, look at the way he makes it a separate pose rather than merely a side most-muscular. The side-tri shows Dorian's thickness from head to toe, that pose more than any other in my opinion says it all. A lot of you guys complain that Dorian had small arms, but rate guys who had/have super heavyweight arms on a middleweight torso. Flex and Kevin for example, look at there side chest, great legs in Flex's case and great arms in Kev's, but where's the chest thickness? Hell, Nasser doesn't even pull his shoulder back far enough to appreciate it fully. I know a lot of you guys don't have a clue because you're the same guys who think that forearms and calves are unimportant. It comes down to something when the glutes are rated as more essential than calves.

I agree, lol at the last senstence

[knny187]

Seinfeld has a quote for everything.  "Your hung up on some clown from the 60's man"

best quote ever & it works here 100%

[bigbobs]

No, I used Flex and Phil as examples because they are considered heir apparents to the Mr. O titles during their respective eras and both are narrow, but have superior back detail. Flex more so than Phil. Being narrow is something you can't really change, back detail is something you can...Nasser never took the cahnce to etch in the detail, he was basically all mass, and thought he could get away with it...And as shown he was beten by a 224 pound Wheeler at the 1997 Arnold, whom Nasser said deserved the win, on record on video.

Now, Flex never could get his condition right for the Mr. O, and that is where Nasser soundly beat Flex,  at most of their meeting. And that is where NAsser ONLY excels over Flex...nothing more...

So flaws that are considered "changeable" are marked by judges as being more critical than those that are not so changeable and due to genetics, like width?    Sorry man, you're making no sense.

[Royal Lion]

Some of you guys just don't understand the concept of meeting criteria. Dorian was the biggest taking conditioning into consideration, had the best overall package and presented it accordingly. I wouldn't even say I'd aspire to have a physique like Dorian's, I would prefer say Flex's, but I can see from a BODYBUILDING standpoint how Dorian won time and time again. Let's say Dorian lost 1 pose post-tear, front double biceps, (which in all reality displayed the immense thickness in his lats, forearms, shoulders and chest) he still wins all the mandatories. You couldnt even give Nasser the front relaxed because he was FAR from relaxed and don't get me started about his front lat-spread, to fully appreciate a lat spread the abs must be relaxed not contracted and hunched into! He WASN'T better from the side, side-tri, side-chest EASILY go to Dorian, just watch the video, don't rely on pictures, look at the thickness in Dorian's lower chest, look at the way he makes it a separate pose rather than merely a side most-muscular. The side-tri shows Dorian's thickness from head to toe, that pose more than any other in my opinion says it all. A lot of you guys complain that Dorian had small arms, but rate guys who had/have super heavyweight arms on a middleweight torso. Flex and Kevin for example, look at there side chest, great legs in Flex's case and great arms in Kev's, but where's the chest thickness? Hell, Nasser doesn't even pull his shoulder back far enough to appreciate it fully. I know a lot of you guys don't have a clue because you're the same guys who think that forearms and calves are unimportant. It comes down to something when the glutes are rated as more essential than calves.

Great post! End of debate.

[bigbobs]

Some of you guys just don't understand the concept of meeting criteria. Dorian was the biggest taking conditioning into consideration, had the best overall package and presented it accordingly. I wouldn't even say I'd aspire to have a physique like Dorian's, I would prefer say Flex's, but I can see from a BODYBUILDING standpoint how Dorian won time and time again. Let's say Dorian lost 1 pose post-tear, front double biceps, (which in all reality displayed the immense thickness in his lats, forearms, shoulders and chest) he still wins all the mandatories. You couldnt even give Nasser the front relaxed because he was FAR from relaxed and don't get me started about his front lat-spread, to fully appreciate a lat spread the abs must be relaxed not contracted and hunched into! He WASN'T better from the side, side-tri, side-chest EASILY go to Dorian, just watch the video, don't rely on pictures, look at the thickness in Dorian's lower chest, look at the way he makes it a separate pose rather than merely a side most-muscular. The side-tri shows Dorian's thickness from head to toe, that pose more than any other in my opinion says it all. A lot of you guys complain that Dorian had small arms, but rate guys who had/have super heavyweight arms on a middleweight torso. Flex and Kevin for example, look at there side chest, great legs in Flex's case and great arms in Kev's, but where's the chest thickness? Hell, Nasser doesn't even pull his shoulder back far enough to appreciate it fully. I know a lot of you guys don't have a clue because you're the same guys who think that forearms and calves are unimportant. It comes down to something when the glutes are rated as more essential than calves.

LMFAO that the front double biceps was the the only mandatory shot that Nasser beat Dorian in - here are other mandatories in 97 where he beat Dorian in too - front relaxed, ab-thigh, side chest, side triceps, and even front lat spread! (front lat spread will go on a separate post since it only allows me to attach 4 shots here)

[bigbobs]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Some of you guys just don't understand the concept of meeting criteria. Dorian was the biggest taking conditioning into consideration, had the best overall package and presented it accordingly. I wouldn't even say I'd aspire to have a physique like Dorian's, I would prefer say Flex's, but I can see from a BODYBUILDING standpoint how Dorian won time and time again. Let's say Dorian lost 1 pose post-tear, front double biceps, (which in all reality displayed the immense thickness in his lats, forearms, shoulders and chest) he still wins all the mandatories. You couldnt even give Nasser the front relaxed because he was FAR from relaxed and don't get me started about his front lat-spread, to fully appreciate a lat spread the abs must be relaxed not contracted and hunched into! He WASN'T better from the side, side-tri, side-chest EASILY go to Dorian, just watch the video, don't rely on pictures, look at the thickness in Dorian's lower chest, look at the way he makes it a separate pose rather than merely a side most-muscular. The side-tri shows Dorian's thickness from head to toe, that pose more than any other in my opinion says it all. A lot of you guys complain that Dorian had small arms, but rate guys who had/have super heavyweight arms on a middleweight torso. Flex and Kevin for example, look at there side chest, great legs in Flex's case and great arms in Kev's, but where's the chest thickness? Hell, Nasser doesn't even pull his shoulder back far enough to appreciate it fully. I know a lot of you guys don't have a clue because you're the same guys who think that forearms and calves are unimportant. It comes down to something when the glutes are rated as more essential than calves.

exactly my points to the letter

I don't want to look like Yates never would but I fully understand why he dominated , I can separated what I like from what would win NONE of these guys can

they look at Dorian's physique can don't like they way it looks so therefore it shoudln't win couple that with bias and ignorance and you have a bunch of ignorant guys

and great comments about forearms & calves

[NarcissisticDeity]

LMFAO that the front double biceps was the the only mandatory shot that Nasser beat Dorian in - here are other mandatories in 97 where he beat Dorian in too - front relaxed, ab-thigh, side chest, side triceps, and even front lat spread! (front lat spread will go on a separate post since it only allows me to attach 4 shots here)

I'll work with you on the ab-thigh it could go either way and the front relaxed and front double biceps , Yates beat him in ALL of the other poses , see the side triceps for yet another pose Nasser can't seem to do

[Royal Lion]

Dorian more than holding his own in terms of size with Nasser and Dillet and absolutely killing them in conditioning & density.  Hail the King!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian more than holding his own in terms of size with Nasser and Dillet and absolutely killing them in conditioning & density.  Hail the King!

In some shots I see Yates at 97 and say man maybe he should have lost but in others it's business as usual just beating everyone

[NarcissisticDeity]

back to my sherief shalaby account again 

not like ND who always posts pics of certain poses or fron certain angles to show dorian's superiority, here i am posting all the available shots from the video of this contest to make a fair nasser/dorian comparison..

thanks for showing exactly why Dorian was the clear winner . forget screenshots watch the video of Dorian trampling Nasser and everyone else and the irony of you claiming anyone post certain pics that's been you since the beginning 

watch the video Dorian kill 

[Royal Lion]

In some shots I see Yates at 97 and say man maybe he should have lost but in others it's business as usual just beating everyone

I didn't realize those shots you posted were from 1997.  Dorian is clearly ahead there.  I'll admit, however, that Nasser is more than holding his own in the shots from BB.  Same old story though, even if Nasser wins from the front, he loses from the side, gets killed from the back, and therefore loses.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I didn't realize those shots you posted were from 1997.  Dorian is clearly ahead there.  I'll admit, however, that Nasser is more than holding his own in the shots from BB.  Same old story though, even if Nasser wins from the front, he loses from the side, gets killed from the back, and therefore loses.

yeah 97 and when I look at them I can see why he won

Nasser was an outstanding bodybuilder from the front his ab-thigh and front double biceps are among the best from anyone but he's not that same imposing force from the sides or the back and which is why his whole career was just ok 6 pro wins

and lets give him 1997 and 1996 for the sake of argument , he beat Dorian not at his best that says what? not much , Dorian at his best tramples Nasser at his without any debate it's not open for discussion so either way they're fucked

[bigbobs]

back to my sherief shalaby account again 

not like ND who always posts pics of certain poses or fron certain angles to show dorian's superiority, here i am posting all the available shots from the video of this contest to make a fair nasser/dorian comparison..

Thanks for the great screenshots Sherief, totally shows Nasser clearly annihilating the competition!  I love how the Dorian nuthuggers only post back comparisons whereas you post them all.

[bigbobs]

I'll work with you on the ab-thigh it could go either way and the front relaxed and front double biceps , Yates beat him in ALL of the other poses , see the side triceps for yet another pose Nasser can't seem to do

How is Yates beating Nasser on the side chest pose? 

And on the side triceps you're saying that Nasser "can't seem to do" the pose simply because he doesn't hold his arms as far back as Dorian does?  Just because someone holds their arms further apart doesn't make their physique better.

[Mr.1derful]

Thanks for the great screenshots Sherief, totally shows Nasser clearly annihilating the competition!  I love how the Dorian nuthuggers only post back comparisons whereas you post them all.

Well, I guess your admiration will have to act as a consolation prize in place of the Sandows that he never won.  I'm sure Nasser is still a little down from being a never was, why don't you be a chum and order a few more pairs of soiled underwear from him to chear him up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

[bigbobs]

Well, I guess your admiration will have to act as a consolation prize in place of the Sandows that he never won.  I'm sure Nasser is still a little down from being a never was, why don't you be a chum and order a few more pairs of soiled underwear from him to chear him up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

A little down?  What does he have to be down over?  The fact that he's retired, financially independent, loved by women, is greeted daily by fans in public, receives tons of fan mail and gifts, views the Pacific Ocean from his home, drives three cars (at least), has been a millionnaire since he's 30, has no commitments and gets to enjoy doing whatever he wants? 

[Mr.1derful]

A little down?  What does he have to be down over?  The fact that he's retired, financially independent, loved by women, is greeted daily by fans in public, receives tons of fan mail and gifts, views the Pacific Ocean from his home, drives three cars (at least), has been a millionnaire since he's 30, has no commitments and gets to enjoy doing whatever he wants? 

Damn, the soiled underwear business must be good!

[MethodGNA]

A little down?  What does he have to be down over?  The fact that he's retired, financially independent, loved by women, is greeted daily by fans in public, receives tons of fan mail and gifts, views the Pacific Ocean from his home, drives three cars (at least), has been a millionnaire since he's 30, has no commitments and gets to enjoy doing whatever he wants? 

do you have to wear a colostomy bad because your rectum has literally been torn up by swarthy arab musc.................... ..........wait.......... ...........i gotta stop this insult.................. ...let me first apologize, and then reiterate the following concern:

you are mentally ill..............i feel very sorry for you..............to spend your 20s as a submissive, effimanate, hype-man, butt-boy............for an over the hill, wife-beating, nobody.................w ho still dresses like it is 1994... would be what i can only describe as a living hell.

it would be bad enough to be like that gay butler, who is in those pictures holding an umbrella over puff-daddy while he walks on the beach................... that would be dignity-draining in-and-of-it-self......................but you serve a NOBODY, someone no one cares about, who has no money or fame.

and the money thing, just stop it, i dont know exactly what nasshole does for money right now, i heard somewhere he, or his family has a garage.................. ...bet he is not now, nor ever was a millionaire............. ......as evidenced by his raggedy manner of dress, outdated clothing, and the fact that he has to make ends meet by selling his shit-stained posing trunks to muscle-queens online.

please address your mental illness..............you really must seek help.......i feel empathy for you..................sad ..................very very sad.