Author Topic: Coleman vs Heath (Read 8624 times)

divcom · « **on:** August 12, 2009, 10:44:18 AM »

Please stop comparing Heath to the retired Ronnie as far as arms and body parts. I'm sure phil will be a monster at 35 at the rate his juicing up but he still dont have the structure.

Cause Phil cant...

tendonitis · « **Reply #1 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:07:55 AM »

the Heath comparisons to Ronnie are ridiculous, it's funny how quickly people forget just how incredible Ronnie was

Heath will never compare to Ronnie

local hero · « **Reply #2 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:14:18 AM »

compare rhonnie and phill at the same age... you wouldnt be saying that then...

TrapsMcLats · « **Reply #3 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:20:57 AM »

Quote from: local hero on August 12, 2009, 11:14:18 AM

compare rhonnie and phill at the same age... you wouldnt be saying that then...

one of the reasons ronnie got so big was because of his relative "slow" growth. also, in the end, ronnie was about 6 feet tall with longs limbs and wide shoulders and a big chest. his overall structural presence gives him an advantage heath never will have.

JasonH · « **Reply #4 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:21:10 AM »

I'm not sure why people compare the two anyway - two completely different types of physique, different heights, weights, everything.

Parker · « **Reply #5 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:26:19 AM »

In terms of height and physique Heath would be closer to Flex and Levrone, in fact, he looks like a Flex/Levrone hybrid.

lax · « **Reply #6 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:33:35 AM »

Quote from: tendonitis on August 12, 2009, 11:07:55 AM

the Heath comparisons to Ronnie are ridiculous, it's funny how quickly people forget just how incredible Ronnie was

Heath will never compare to Ronnie

ron is not doing much to remind us
with his current porcine stage presentations

divcom · « **Reply #7 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:38:11 AM »

Quote from: local hero on August 12, 2009, 11:14:18 AM

compare rhonnie and phill at the same age... you wouldnt be saying that then...

again...ronnie had a FT career which most likely played into his slow move through the ranks. what happens if Ronnie comes out of college, works at a gym FT and has access to an established pro? What ronnie looks like at 29-30 where phil is now? Ronnie road is so different from the other top 10 guys it's not real.

Playboy · « **Reply #8 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:42:50 AM »

Quote from: lax on August 12, 2009, 11:33:35 AM

ron is not doing much to remind us
with his current porcine stage presentations

He doesn't have to. His 8 Mr O titles speak for themselves and so do his vids and his strength. What every getbigger max's out with, ronnie uses as a wrist curl. Case closed.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #9 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:46:29 AM »

Quote from: Playboy on August 12, 2009, 11:42:50 AM

He doesn't have to. His 8 Mr O titles speak for themselves and so do his vids and his strength. What every getbigger max's out with, ronnie uses as a wrist curl. Case closed.

mossel · « **Reply #10 on:** August 12, 2009, 12:10:21 PM »

When is MC hammer's comeback...? worked out fine for MJ...

TRIX · « **Reply #11 on:** August 12, 2009, 01:49:23 PM »

Heath is so narrow it makes his arms appear massive, when in reality they are 20 inches

MethodGNA · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2009, 02:03:10 PM »

Quote from: tendonitis on August 12, 2009, 11:07:55 AM

the Heath comparisons to Ronnie are ridiculous, it's funny how quickly people forget just how incredible Ronnie was

Heath will never compare to Ronnie

i agree, it is silly how people even put these two in the same hemisphere.............. ...thats cause many on here are 17 and 18 year old boys, who have never seen ronnie in person.................. ....and only in person could you truely appreciate how he made other professional bodybuilders look like local NPC competitors.

it was not even fair, ronnie was as wide as two phil heaths

Option D · « **Reply #13 on:** August 12, 2009, 02:04:03 PM »

Quote from: Playboy on August 12, 2009, 11:42:50 AM

He doesn't have to. His 8 Mr O titles speak for themselves and so do his vids and his strength. What every getbigger max's out with, ronnie uses as a wrist curl. Case closed.

qft

Parker · « **Reply #14 on:** August 12, 2009, 02:05:06 PM »

Quote from: TRIX on August 12, 2009, 01:49:23 PM

Heath is so narrow it makes his arms appear massive, when in reality they are 20 inches

When he first won his pro card.

Royal Lion · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2009, 02:09:23 PM »

I guarantee Heath's arms are much larger than 20 inches; he has the best arms of any current competitor in my opinion. Overall, his physique resembles Levrone more than anyone.

lvtolft · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2009, 02:11:57 PM »

Does he every train at Metroflex anymore?

TRIX · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2009, 03:36:30 PM »

Quote from: Parker on August 12, 2009, 02:05:06 PM

When he first won his pro card.

his arms 20.5 inch contest

i doubt they have grown in size

Parker · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2009, 10:38:31 PM »

Quote from: TRIX on August 12, 2009, 03:36:30 PM

his arms 20.5 inch contest

i doubt they have grown in size

i know you have to be trying to be sarcastic!!! Did you see the pix from the Dex. Jackson Classic? Plus this:
http://www.flexonline.com/phil_heath_video/news/857 Even though he is about 10+ weeks from the Mr. O, those arms are seriously over 20 inches.

arce1988 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 12, 2009, 10:44:52 PM »

08 O's...

closeline · « **Reply #20 on:** August 13, 2009, 09:34:25 AM »

Quote from: TRIX on August 12, 2009, 01:49:23 PM

Heath is so narrow it makes his arms appear massive, when in reality they are 20 inches

20'' in lenght too what makes em look much bigger then they are

copare photos showing heath and ronnie in same scale und you will see that ronnies arms are at least 2-3 inches bigger

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #21 on:** August 13, 2009, 09:44:20 AM »

Quote from: TRIX on August 12, 2009, 03:36:30 PM

his arms 20.5 inch contest

i doubt they have grown in size

Hey that happens to be the size genetically talented people can achieve naturally.

ThaRealist · « **Reply #22 on:** August 13, 2009, 09:54:41 AM »

Get real guys comparing Ronnie in his prime to the best of Phil is a joke. Big Ron destroys him in every aspect except calves. Phil doesn't have the frame to get to the status that Ronnie achieved. You guys really need to be comparing Phil to guys like Ray, Kevin and Flex.

Wiggs · « **Reply #23 on:** August 13, 2009, 10:27:43 AM »

Quote from: ThaRealist on August 13, 2009, 09:54:41 AM

Get real guys comparing Ronnie in his prime to the best of Phil is a joke. Big Ron destroys him in every aspect except calves. Phil doesn't have the frame to get to the status that Ronnie achieved. You guys really need to be comparing Phil to guys like Ray, Kevin and Flex.

Correct. Actually more Levrone and Flex.

kiwiol · « **Reply #24 on:** August 13, 2009, 10:35:41 AM »

Quote from: ThaRealist on August 13, 2009, 09:54:41 AM

Phil doesn't have the frame to get to the status that Ronnie achieved.

When Ronnie competed in the 2000 Mr Olympia at 260 something, every one said there was no way he could possibly put on any more muscle on his frame, but we all know what happened.

Phil seems a lot like Shawn Ray in his approach to bodybuilding (training very hard, but not super heavy), while having Ronnie-esque genetics for being freaky and Wheeler-esque shape / roundness. Phil could become even freakier than Ronnie in a few years if he progresses at the rate he's doing now. And he seems to know what he's doing.