ATHEIST Brad Pitt on Bill Maher

[The Luke]

I know the argument will be, "yeah, but homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone". True, however, what if the original couple would have been gay? That would have been the end of mankind. For you ones that support homosexuality, that would mean non-existence for you.

...the "original couple" (most recent common female ancestor; most recent common male ancestor for all mankind) probably lived thousands of years apart from each other, so they probably never had sex with each other anyway.

Besides, our concestors (most recet common ancestors) were probably somethig akin to banobo chimps... who are all bisexual: in fact the only sexual pairing they refrain from is mother and son.


The real hypocrisy in all this church-sponsored Proposition 8 is the fact that Christian communities are already rife with married homosexuals... they just aren't married to OTHER homosexuals.


I think the good reverend Ted Hagard is a textbook example of this... he is a married bisexual man, who conducted homosexual affairs in private all the while leading an anti-gay-marriage crusade. Think about that, a married homosexual who opposes gay marriage...!


Accept it America: you already have gay marriage... the question you need to answer is whether two married homosexual men married to each other is so much worse than two married homosexual men living in misery and ruining their respective wives lives?



The Luke

[Skip8282]

The real hypocrisy in all this church-sponsored Proposition 8 is the fact that Christian communities are already rife with married homosexuals... they just aren't married to OTHER homosexuals.


I think the good reverend Ted Hagard is a textbook example of this... he is a married bisexual man, who conducted homosexual affairs in private all the while leading an anti-gay-marriage crusade. Think about that, a married homosexual who opposes gay marriage...!


Accept it America: you already have gay marriage... the question you need to answer is whether two married homosexual men married to each other is so much worse than two married homosexual men living in misery and ruining their respective wives lives?

Personally I think limited government is generally a good thing and the government should stay out of marriage be it gay or straight.

Having said that, your unsubstantiated claim that gay people being married to straight people being "rife" in society by pointing out an example (or even a handful of public examples) and trying to apply that to the millions of heterosexual marriages is utter nonsense.

As for Brad Pitt, it's ok to ignore his opinion.  But if Chuck Norris says it, you'd better fall in line...

[The Luke]

Having said that, your unsubstantiated claim that gay people being married to straight people being "rife" in society by pointing out an example (or even a handful of public examples) and trying to apply that to the millions of heterosexual marriages is utter nonsense.

...if married homosexual Christian Evagelicals are so rare, then what are the odds that the most prominent anti-gay-marriage Evangelical mega-church pastor would turn out to be a closeted homosexual/bisexual?


Isn't it more probably that sexual orientation is genetically pre-determined, but that homosexuals born into Evangelical Christian homes adopt the defensive tactic of becoming outspoken homophobes and thereby rise up the ranks of these homophobic churches? Only to be found out later on?

Isn't that more probable?

The same thing happens in cults... the most fervet supporters of the cult leader are often those with the gravest doubts. They similarly overcompensate, only to later defect... all the founding members of the Moonies; Scientology etc all defected eventually, having been avid proselytizing zealots beforehand.


Some simple facts:
(1)-Only BISEXUALS believe sexual orientation is a choice.
(2)-Solely heterosexual people don't care what homosexals do to each other.
(3)-Only repressed homosexuals/bisexuals oppose homosexuality: it is resentment plain and simple


So, if a reverend or preacher is screaming from the pupit about evil people CHOOSING to be homosexual... chances are has some bisexual leanings himself or is a closeted homosexal living a lie. No rational heterosexual believes there is any choice involved in sexual inclination.

If a reverend or preacher is screaming from the pulpit about the "evils" of homosexuality, that is a manifestation of self-repression: not moral indignance. Rational heterosexuals don't care what consenting adults do in private any more than they care what music strangers enjoy... not my thing; none of my business. You only care if you really need to justify denying your own nature.

If a reverend or preacher is screaming from the pulpit against gay marriage then he's probably a resentful self-repressed closet case. No rational person would prefer homosexuals live lives of misery married to a heterosexual partner, rather than have them marry each other. What kind of life is that for the heterosexual partner? There is a conservative argument to be made against homosexual promiscuity: but the answer to that is monogamos gay marriage, not oppression. Odious resentment is the only rational explanation for the homophobic attitudes of Evangelicals.


If a reverend or pastor is screaming from the pulpit about evil homosexuals (2) choosing to be homosexual (1), and how we shouldn't let them get married (3)... it's really only a matter of time till he's caught with a mouthful of cock.


Just think about the dynamics involved.

Wherever there is a vested interest; there is a lie.

Wherever there is a lot of money; there is a thief.

Wherever there is a free love philosophy; there is a horny nymphomaiac.

Wherever there is a religious cult; there is a chronic narcissism personality disorder.

Wherever someone taks directly to God; there is gonna be some child-fucking.

Wherever a crowd holds signs claiming "God hates Fags"; a fag is holding one of those signs.



The Luke

[loco]

i like bratt pitt and bill maher.  both are great americans.

Bill Maher is an atheist and he is anti-religion, yet he supports the state of Israel unconditionally and calls anybody who criticizes the state of Israel an anti-semite.  That's weird!

Denouncing Israel — And Bill Maher — With Love
http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/?p=383

The World IS Mel Gibson
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/the-world-is-mel-gibson_b_26315.html

[MCWAY]

...if married homosexual Christian Evagelicals are so rare, then what are the odds that the most prominent anti-gay-marriage Evangelical mega-church pastor would turn out to be a closeted homosexual/bisexual?


Isn't it more probably that sexual orientation is genetically pre-determined, but that homosexuals born into Evangelical Christian homes adopt the defensive tactic of becoming outspoken homophobes and thereby rise up the ranks of these homophobic churches? Only to be found out later on?

Isn't that more probable?

The same thing happens in cults... the most fervet supporters of the cult leader are often those with the gravest doubts. They similarly overcompensate, only to later defect... all the founding members of the Moonies; Scientology etc all defected eventually, having been avid proselytizing zealots beforehand.


Some simple facts:
(1)-Only BISEXUALS believe sexual orientation is a choice.
(2)-Solely heterosexual people don't care what homosexals do to each other.
(3)-Only repressed homosexuals/bisexuals oppose homosexuality: it is resentment plain and simple

It appears the poster boy for inaccuracy and utter silliness has made his triumphant return, using the tired canard that someone who think homosexuality is wrong is a closet homo. I just hope no one sues him for false advertising (referring to this mess as "simple facts).

So, if a reverend or preacher is screaming from the pupit about evil people CHOOSING to be homosexual... chances are has some bisexual leanings himself or is a closeted homosexal living a lie. No rational heterosexual believes there is any choice involved in sexual inclination.

Woefully incorrect, as usual, Luke. There are MILLIONS of preachers in America who state the Biblical truth of homosexuality being wrong. Yet, only a small handful, at best, would fit the category of being closet homosexuals. Those few just happen to make the news; because (based on sheer numbers), they are a rarity.

If a reverend or preacher is screaming from the pulpit about the "evils" of homosexuality, that is a manifestation of self-repression: not moral indignance. Rational heterosexuals don't care what consenting adults do in private any more than they care what music strangers enjoy... not my thing; none of my business. You only care if you really need to justify denying your own nature.

If a reverend or preacher is screaming from the pulpit against gay marriage then he's probably a resentful self-repressed closet case. No rational person would prefer homosexuals live lives of misery married to a heterosexual partner, rather than have them marry each other. What kind of life is that for the heterosexual partner? There is a conservative argument to be made against homosexual promiscuity: but the answer to that is monogamos gay marriage, not oppression. Odious resentment is the only rational explanation for the homophobic attitudes of Evangelicals.


If a reverend or pastor is screaming from the pulpit about evil homosexuals (2) choosing to be homosexual (1), and how we shouldn't let them get married (3)... it's really only a matter of time till he's caught with a mouthful of cock.


Just think about the dynamics involved.

Wherever there is a vested interest; there is a lie.

Wherever there is a lot of money; there is a thief.

Wherever there is a free love philosophy; there is a horny nymphomaiac.

Wherever there is a religious cult; there is a chronic narcissism personality disorder.

Wherever someone taks directly to God; there is gonna be some child-fucking.

Wherever a crowd holds signs claiming "God hates Fags"; a fag is holding one of those signs.

The Luke

Whenever Luke makes a post, it's going to be filled with some of the most lame-brained, bone-headed, factually-deprived jibberish known to man.

That's especially true, as he (like so many others on GetBig) has resorted to insulting people by implying that they're gay.

[BM OUT]

I couldnt care less if gays get married or not.However,the day I listen to pasty faced idiot like Bill Maher is the day pigs fly.He always puts people on that cant debate and then bullies them.He is a fraud,much like Olberman.

[The Luke]

That's especially true, as he (like so many others on GetBig) has resorted to insulting people by implying that they're gay.

...I was referring to Ted Hagard. I think he actually is gay, what with the sleeping with men and all.

Unless of course, you don't BELIEVE Ted Hagard is gay?


By the way, epic evasion of any of my points... as usual you just quote then evade, but think because you quoted someone it might seem as if you've addressed the issues.



The Luke

[MCWAY]

...I was referring to Ted Hagard. I think he actually is gay, what with the sleeping with men and all.

Unless of course, you don't BELIEVE Ted Hagard is gay?

The insults to which I was referring were regards to fellow GetBig posters, who take potshots at other posters by claiming that they're gay.

By the way, epic evasion of any of my points... as usual you just quote then evade, but think because you quoted someone it might seem as if you've addressed the issues.

The Luke

Unbelivably wrong, as usual, Luke.

Your claim that preachers speaking out against homosexuality are, by and large, closet homos is as right as two left shoes.

Your "rational heterosexuals" spiel is void of sense and accuracy, as well.

Strike One: Bisexuals are NOT the only who think that homosexuality is a choice.

Strike Two: Heterosexuals often do care what homosexuals do, particularly if those happen to be in their family.

Strike Three: People are against homosexuality for reason that have NOTHING TO DO, with repressing homosexual tendencies.

So, please spare us your silliness. My abs can't take the pain anymore!!!

[The Luke]

Intriguing points McWay...

Strike One: Bisexuals are NOT the only who think that homosexuality is a choice.

...do you think homosexuality is a choice? Could you CHOOSE to have sex with another man?

Maybe you should watch some gay porn and see if it causes you to become aroused.

Strike Two: Heterosexuals often do care what homosexuals do, particularly if those happen to be in their family.

Why? I don't care which way any of my relatives have sex? Nor do I care what music or food they like.

Have you, perchance, had a falling out with a gay relative?... I'm guessing it would have to be a close relative, and the fundie Christian thing is a justification for the guilt associated with mistreating a close relative.

But I'd just be guessing.

Strike Three: People are against homosexuality for reason that have NOTHING TO DO, with repressing homosexual tendencies.

Disease and promiscuity are the only rational reasons I can think of... are there others?


The Luke

[MCWAY]

Intriguing points McWay...

...do you think homosexuality is a choice? Could you CHOOSE to have sex with another man?

I could. Then again, I could eat roadkill, too.

Maybe you should watch some gay porn and see if it causes you to become aroused.

You first!!!

Why? I don't care which way any of my relatives have sex? Nor do I care what music or food they like.

Fortunately, the rest of the planet isn't quite like you.

Have you, perchance, had a falling out with a gay relative?... I'm guessing it would have to be a close relative, and the fundie Christian thing is a justification for the guilt associated with mistreating a close relative.

That would be a "No"!!!

But I'd just be guessing.

Disease and promiscuity are the only rational reasons I can think of... are there others?

The Luke

Indeed, there are. Whether you think they're "rational" or not is somewhat irrevelant.

[Skip8282]

...if married homosexual Christian Evagelicals are so rare, then what are the odds that the most prominent anti-gay-marriage Evangelical mega-church pastor would turn out to be a closeted homosexual/bisexual?

I never said anything against homosexuals, so the remainder of your rant is....well, ...you brought up over-compensation.

Anyway, gay people married to straight people are rare and you can't post any scientifically valid numbers to substantiate your bullshit claim that it is "rife".  That's not to say that there aren't gay people who haven't come out.

[The Luke]

...do you think homosexuality is a choice? Could you CHOOSE to have sex with another man?

I could. Then again, I could eat roadkill, too.

...someone please correct me if I'm wrong; but isn't this a fundie Evangelical Christian coming out of the closet as a bisexual on the politics board?

Good for you McWay, hopefully you now realise the source of your hostility against homosexuals.


The Luke

[MCWAY]

...someone please correct me if I'm wrong; but isn't this a fundie Evangelical Christian coming out of the closet as a bisexual on the politics board?

Good for you McWay, hopefully you now realise the source of your hostility against homosexuals.


The Luke

Add this to the rather large collection of utterly stupid, wildly inaccurate posts of yours.

To quote Lawrence Taylor, "Son, you gotta do better than this!!!"

[The Luke]

Add this to the rather large collection of utterly stupid, wildly inaccurate posts of yours.

To quote Lawrence Taylor, "Son, you gotta do better than this!!!"

Gotta say McWay, it certainly reads as if you are actively suppressing an interest in your own sex... few hetrosexuals feel they could CHOOSE to have sex with another man.


Hope you enjoy the middle of the Kinsey scale.



The Luke

[big L dawg]

The Luke Back & owning chumps with the quickness.

[Government_Controlled]

My heart goes out to the homosexuals. Most of them have been taught an inaccuracie regarding how God feels about forgiving. Of course, this is ONLY pertinent to the practicing homosexual, who THINKS that God will forgive the continued practice of homosexuality/bisexuality. Here is what the Bible says on the matter.

Hebrews 10:26-31

"26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d] and again, "The Lord will judge his people."[e] 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."


So then, whatever sin one is committing, that same one has STOP that said sin. Then the door of forgiveness/repentance can be opened. This shows God you are SINCERE about your repentance.

I felt it was only fair for the ones who didn't know this. Peace!



GC/DEA_AGENT

[Hugo Chavez]

My heart goes out to the homosexuals. Most of them have been taught an inaccuracie regarding how God feels about forgiving. Of course, this is ONLY pertinent to the practicing homosexual, who THINKS that God will forgive the continued practice of homosexuality/bisexuality. Here is what the Bible says on the matter.

Hebrews 10:26-31

"26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d] and again, "The Lord will judge his people."[e] 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."


So then, whatever sin one is committing, that same one has STOP that said sin. Then the door of forgiveness/repentance can be opened. This shows God you are SINCERE about your repentance.

I felt it was only fair for the ones who didn't know this. Peace!



GC/DEA_AGENT

well then that just about says we're all screwd including a good portion of republicans and christians in America.  Just looking at adultry alone, lol...

[24KT]

Anyway, gay people married to straight people are rare and you can't post any scientifically valid numbers to substantiate your bullshit claim that it is "rife".  That's not to say that there aren't gay people who haven't come out.

That's true... they marry other gay people as beards... like in the case of the parents of a former beauty queen. 

[24KT]

Gotta say McWay, it certainly reads as if you are actively suppressing an interest in your own sex... few hetrosexuals feel they could CHOOSE to have sex with another man.

Nuh-uh... that's where you're wrong.
I'm heterosexual, and I feel I can CHOOSE to have sex with a man... or not. 

[big L dawg]

My heart goes out to the homosexuals. Most of them have been taught an inaccuracie regarding how God feels about forgiving. Of course, this is ONLY pertinent to the practicing homosexual, who THINKS that God will forgive the continued practice of homosexuality/bisexuality. Here is what the Bible says on the matter.

Hebrews 10:26-31

"26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d] and again, "The Lord will judge his people."[e] 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."


So then, whatever sin one is committing, that same one has STOP that said sin. Then the door of forgiveness/repentance can be opened. This shows God you are SINCERE about your repentance.

I felt it was only fair for the ones who didn't know this. Peace!



GC/DEA_AGENT

It's not a sin.theres no invisible fairy in the sky governing there lives.It's a sin only to sheep like you...HTH.

[MCWAY]

Gotta say McWay, it certainly reads as if you are actively suppressing an interest in your own sex... few hetrosexuals feel they could CHOOSE to have sex with another man.


Hope you enjoy the middle of the Kinsey scale.



The Luke

Nuh-uh... that's where you're wrong.
I'm heterosexual, and I feel I can CHOOSE to have sex with a man... or not. 

AHHHH!!!! The "Heckle and Jeckle" of GetBig!!! Comic relief at its finest!!!

Again, I refer to the Lawrence Taylor quote. So void are your pitiful post of any actual facts, that the only way you can turn down the buffoon meters on your respective posts is to engage in the tired old GetBig practice of calling someone gay.

It is to laugh!!!

[MCWAY]

It's not a sin.theres no invisible fairy in the sky governing there lives.It's a sin only to sheep like you...HTH.

This coming from a guy who can barely put a sentence together (on par with a multiple-time 4th-grader)!!!

The laughs just keep on coming!!!

[bigdumbbell]

Bill Maher is an atheist and he is anti-religion, yet he supports the state of Israel unconditionally and calls anybody who criticizes the state of Israel an anti-semite.  That's weird!

Denouncing Israel — And Bill Maher — With Love
http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/?p=383

The World IS Mel Gibson
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/the-world-is-mel-gibson_b_26315.html

u make iit sound like a bad thing

[loco]

u make iit sound like a bad thing

Are you saying that you believe supporting the state of Israel unconditionally and accusing anybody who criticizes the state of Israel an anti-Semite is a good thing?

[bigdumbbell]

Are you saying that you believe supporting the state of Israel unconditionally and accusing anybody who criticizes the state of Israel an anti-Semite is a good thing?

absolutely