Author Topic: Open letter to pros, editors, wannabes and everyone else who lifts weights.  (Read 4786 times)

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As a gym owner and bodybuilder I am sick of all the silly beliefs and exercises just about every bodybuilder embraces. All that rubbish is like a virus that everyone catches and it is universal.

Why on earth does anyone do triceps pressdowns with a rope? Stop doing this ineffective exercise. The wannabes read the magazines and think they must be effective because some pro is doing them. Triceps pressdowns aren't much better.

When are musclemen going to wake up and stop doing so many ineffective and literally wasteful movements? I suppose it will continue just like false beliefs such as do what works for you. What kind of direction is that? It is empty and meaningless. What wannabes are being told is that the champs and editors have no clue about what others have to do to get larger muscles. They know what they had to do and accept that few people are crazy enough to follow in the chemical trenches.

Please stop following fads. We even had hapless Melvin Goodrum using a Pilates machine. Whatever did Joseph Pilates know about exercise? Not much at all. That is why countless women follow that crap. While we are at it throw out those balls, bands, and other junk.

Let us remove boxercise, aerobics, pump classes, Yoga, and all manner of nonsense from all gyms. The garbage can for the lot. Put those treadmills and all other so called cardio machines there as well or put them in special locations where fat and obese people can use them free of charge.

Why should we hear those theories about attacking a muscle from different angles? As if muscles know what angle you are using!

While we are at it, will you please cease from endorsing supplements. Just because muscles are composed of protein doesn't mean we need 300 grams a day! Mike Mentzer was right about the protein requirement. If you eat a balanced diet you don't need supplements. Period. Stop wasting your money.

Please stop talking about sciences you know absolutely nothing about. No one here is a geneticist so where does all the knowledge about genetics come from? No one can say who has got what genetics. Larry Scott was a narrow bloke when he dreamed of being a Mr somebody. He won Mr Olympia in 1965 and the crowd chanted, "Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry!" long after the contest was over.

The commonly held explanation for large muscles is steroids and other drugs. Those who take these drugs and don't get big conclude that they don't have the genetics. Maybe they never did figure out how to train properly in the first place?

Throw out belts, gloves, straps and headbands. Leave your walkmans in the car or at home. Give the TVs in gyms to poor people. Get rid of all that rock music that gives sensible people headaches.

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And you kids be quiet down there!  People are trying to sleep!  Show some respect for your elders, you flotsam!  And stay off my lawn, 'lil whippersnappers!


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Ok Vince, I'll bite.  Why is using a rope ineffective for pressdowns?  You don't believe a neutral palm position will engage different heads of the tricep than would a pronated or supinated grip?

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great post as usual vince
thanx for saying what needed to be said
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Maybe i should just go to your gym Vince and you can show me what to do.....
No doubt about it...

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Maybe i should just go to your gym Vince and you can show me what to do.....

Now that's what I call an 'open ended arrangement.'  :-X

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Now that's what I call an 'open ended arrangement.'  :-X

It's only gay if you want it to be.......
No doubt about it...

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Maybe i should just go to your gym Vince and you can show me what to do.....

While everyone is welcome to visit our gym that doesn't mean I have to show them things. Smart guys like Webcke have nothing to learn from me.

Just because you see other guys doing stuff doesn't mean they know what they are doing. If someone is natural and growing rapidly then watch what he is doing and learn.

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It's only gay if you want it to be.......

It's only a rant if you ramble on from point to unrelated point without any intention of finding solutions for your complaints.  But that's not Vince's style.

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While everyone is welcome to visit our gym that doesn't mean I have to show them things. Smart guys like Webcke have nothing to learn from me.

Just because you see other guys doing stuff doesn't mean they know what they are doing. If someone is natural and growing rapidly then watch what he is doing and learn.


Thanks Vince.
No doubt about it...

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whats wrong with rock music? ... and mp3 players for that matter

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As a gym owner and bodybuilder I am sick of all the silly beliefs and exercises just about every bodybuilder embraces. All that rubbish is like a virus that everyone catches and it is universal.

You haven't been a bodybuilder since the Nixon Administration

Why on earth does anyone do triceps pressdowns with a rope? Stop doing this ineffective exercise. The wannabes read the magazines and think they must be effective because some pro is doing them. Triceps pressdowns aren't much better.

Because that's what attaches the pulley and the tricep handle


When are musclemen going to wake up and stop doing so many ineffective and literally wasteful movements? I suppose it will continue just like false beliefs such as do what works for you. What kind of direction is that? It is empty and meaningless. What wannabes are being told is that the champs and editors have no clue about what others have to do to get larger muscles. They know what they had to do and accept that few people are crazy enough to follow in the chemical trenches.

An example of an ineffective and wasteful movement is opening up one of your threads




Please stop following fads. We even had hapless Melvin Goodrum using a Pilates machine. Whatever did Joseph Pilates know about exercise? Not much at all. That is why countless women follow that crap. While we are at it throw out those balls, bands, and other junk.

Pilates is a great combination of yoga and aerobics.  I'm sorry if its too advanced for you

Let us remove boxercise, aerobics, pump classes, Yoga, and all manner of nonsense from all gyms. The garbage can for the lot. Put those treadmills and all other so called cardio machines there as well or put them in special locations where fat and obese people can use them free of charge.

Are you saying that your gym has no treadmills or cardio machines or have they broken down with age and you're writing this as an excuse to your gym members...if any??

Why should we hear those theories about attacking a muscle from different angles? As if muscles know what angle you are using!

Perhaps you should study an anatomy chart and answer it for yourself..... ::)

While we are at it, will you please cease from endorsing supplements. Just because muscles are composed of protein doesn't mean we need 300 grams a day! Mike Mentzer was right about the protein requirement. If you eat a balanced diet you don't need supplements. Period. Stop wasting your money.

Times have changed and athletes are bigger and better because of supplementation.  

Please stop talking about sciences you know absolutely nothing about. No one here is a geneticist so where does all the knowledge about genetics come from? No one can say who has got what genetics. Larry Scott was a narrow bloke when he dreamed of being a Mr somebody. He won Mr Olympia in 1965 and the crowd chanted, "Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry!" long after the contest was over.

Larry competed in an era where everyone had weak points in the body.  Wouldn't happen today  


The commonly held explanation for large muscles is steroids and other drugs. Those who take these drugs and don't get big conclude that they don't have the genetics. Maybe they never did figure out how to train properly in the first place?

You never won a show until you took Dianabol, Mr Canada.

Throw out belts, gloves, straps and headbands. Leave your walkmans in the car or at home. Give the TVs in gyms to poor people. Get rid of all that rock music that gives sensible people headaches.


We use MP3 players and IPods now, nobody uses a walkman anymore.  And I'm guessing that you didn't pay the cable bill in your gym which is why you're ranting about the TV's 
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As a gym owner and bodybuilder I am sick of all the silly beliefs and exercises just about every bodybuilder embraces. All that rubbish is like a virus that everyone catches and it is universal.

Why on earth does anyone do triceps pressdowns with a rope? Stop doing this ineffective exercise. The wannabes read the magazines and think they must be effective because some pro is doing them. Triceps pressdowns aren't much better.

When are musclemen going to wake up and stop doing so many ineffective and literally wasteful movements? I suppose it will continue just like false beliefs such as do what works for you. What kind of direction is that? It is empty and meaningless. What wannabes are being told is that the champs and editors have no clue about what others have to do to get larger muscles. They know what they had to do and accept that few people are crazy enough to follow in the chemical trenches.

Please stop following fads. We even had hapless Melvin Goodrum using a Pilates machine. Whatever did Joseph Pilates know about exercise? Not much at all. That is why countless women follow that crap. While we are at it throw out those balls, bands, and other junk.

Let us remove boxercise, aerobics, pump classes, Yoga, and all manner of nonsense from all gyms. The garbage can for the lot. Put those treadmills and all other so called cardio machines there as well or put them in special locations where fat and obese people can use them free of charge.

Why should we hear those theories about attacking a muscle from different angles? As if muscles know what angle you are using!

While we are at it, will you please cease from endorsing supplements. Just because muscles are composed of protein doesn't mean we need 300 grams a day! Mike Mentzer was right about the protein requirement. If you eat a balanced diet you don't need supplements. Period. Stop wasting your money.

Please stop talking about sciences you know absolutely nothing about. No one here is a geneticist so where does all the knowledge about genetics come from? No one can say who has got what genetics. Larry Scott was a narrow bloke when he dreamed of being a Mr somebody. He won Mr Olympia in 1965 and the crowd chanted, "Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry!" long after the contest was over.

The commonly held explanation for large muscles is steroids and other drugs. Those who take these drugs and don't get big conclude that they don't have the genetics. Maybe they never did figure out how to train properly in the first place?

Throw out belts, gloves, straps and headbands. Leave your walkmans in the car or at home. Give the TVs in gyms to poor people. Get rid of all that rock music that gives sensible people headaches.

Great post Vince - There are no tricks building muscle remains the same as it did forever - people need to ct out the BS. By chance did you ever get to Vince Gironda's Gym in CA? Same thing no BS Gym

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Please stop following fads. We even had hapless Melvin Goodrum using a Pilates machine. Whatever did Joseph Pilates know about exercise? Not much at all. That is why countless women follow that crap. While we are at it throw out those balls, bands, and other junk.



to the hardcore sect, the "fads" are all bullshit but...
....the "fads" are what are covered in magazines like "Self" and whatever modern women read

modern women want to do that stuff and want to pay a trainer to teach them that stuff

bottom line, clients would rather do exercises that are "cool" than do double drop sets

and in the end- the money is still green (i'm speaking as a trainer)

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Vince Basille knows what boys like.

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Vince is a fuckin WACK JOB!

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im glad old man vince can still piss off these young queers here
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Basile is an absolute retard.

Another post with a lot of words that don't say ANYTHING! It never actually goes anywhere.

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Basile is an absolute retard.

Another post with a lot of words that don't say ANYTHING! It never actually goes anywhere.
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Well that was quite the read!

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:)


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...so I went into town with an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time, and...

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i believe in triceps pressdowns

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Vince "Kiddie Voyeur" Basille once again offers his knowledge to the masses who have taken the step forward while he remains steadfastly in the past.