Author Topic: What's going on with Glenn Beck. I have a possible conspiracy theory (Read 10727 times)

andreisdaman · « **Reply #75 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:28:23 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 25, 2009, 07:16:36 AM

Andre:

Do you want to debate facts or just throw around insults. ill have it any way you want.

I will assume you will continue with childish attacks because facts about this admn is nowhere you want to go near.

whoa!!!....facts about this administation???..you are the one who said Obama fired a secret service agent because he supposedly overheard Obama, Michelle, etc talking about whites and jews.....you were the only ojne who said that....I never heard that on TV....

you got that from some stupid website...which proves that you want to believe anything bad about Obama because it fits into your racist mindset about him...

I dare you to deny the above....you created a whole thread over this

BM OUT · « **Reply #76 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:29:21 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on August 25, 2009, 07:24:51 AM

not true..you can go to any church especially those on the far right conservative parts of the country and conservative politicians have been caught going to racist rants by preachers as well

Twenty years of Sundays and Wright still says the same thing NOW.Just a few weeks ago he said the reason he couldnt see Obama is that "dem jews wont let me see him".Come on.Obama believed EVERY word.

Straw Man · « **Reply #77 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:31:35 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 25, 2009, 07:27:33 AM

Lets see,sat in a racist church for twenty years,said nothing when Rev. Lowery got up to speak at Obamas inaugeration and insulted whites,said nothing when Robert Reich said whites shouldnt get jobs from the stimulous,his supreme court nominee insulted whites numerous times through her career,sided with Gates over the white cop,dropped the charges against the black panther party for intimidating white voters,said "THE WHITE MANS GREED RUNS A WORLD IN NEED".

Shall we go on?Trent Lott said ONE thing and was deemed a racist.Obama has a list as long as your arm and you ignore it.Amazing!!

ok - you can be "333"'s understudy.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #78 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:31:52 AM »

Quote from: RPF on August 25, 2009, 06:41:02 AM

I use to kind of like Beck, but ever since he had Ron Paul on his show and attacked him for 9/11 Truth I've thought Beck was a little bitch.

Beck lumps 9/11 truthers with the terrorists. He says they're both trying to destroy America. Amazing... Beck thinks I'm as dangerous as Al Qaeda

hahaha That's right Beck, watch out

lol

andreisdaman · « **Reply #79 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:31:58 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 25, 2009, 07:29:21 AM

Twenty years of Sundays and Wright still says the same thing NOW.Just a few weeks ago he said the reason he couldnt see Obama is that "dem jews wont let me see him".Come on.Obama believed EVERY word.

come on..if you believe that you are a fool..politicians don't believe anything...only the vote is what matters....Obama sat there because it benefitted him politically...same as Lott..same as other conservative politicians who are not racists but sit there for the votes

andreisdaman · « **Reply #80 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:34:13 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 25, 2009, 07:29:21 AM

Twenty years of Sundays and Wright still says the same thing NOW.Just a few weeks ago he said the reason he couldnt see Obama is that "dem jews wont let me see him".Come on.Obama believed EVERY word.

If you go over to your friend's house for twenty years and your friend is always talking about minorities and how they are destroying America, does that mean you believe the same thing?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #81 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:35:51 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on August 25, 2009, 07:28:23 AM

whoa!!!....facts about this administation???..you are the one who said Obama fired a secret service agent because he supposedly overheard Obama, Michelle, etc talking about whites and jews.....you were the only ojne who said that....I never heard that on TV....

you got that from some stupid website...which proves that you want to believe anything bad about Obama because it fits into your racist mindset about him...

I dare you to deny the above....you created a whole thread over this

I posted what I found on a site. I admit that the story did not pan out.

HOWEVER:

!. Rev. Wright
2. Ayers
3. Dreams of my Fathers.
4. Dropping the black panthers case
5. Michelle's little rants
6. "Typical white person"

do you want more?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #82 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:36:52 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on August 25, 2009, 07:34:13 AM

If you go over to your friend's house for twenty years and your friend is always talking about minorities and how they are destroying America, does that mean you believe the same thing?

If you are not offended by it and those are the friends you keep, you are agreeing to it by ommission.

The friends Obama has always kept are just awful.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #83 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:44:02 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 25, 2009, 07:35:51 AM

I posted what I found on a site. I admit that the story did not pan out.

HOWEVER:

!. Rev. Wright
2. Ayers
3. Dreams of my Fathers.
4. Dropping the black panthers case
5. Michelle's little rants
6. "Typical white person"

do you want more?

I'll give you credit for being big enough to admit you were wrong on that.....

as for rev. Wright.....all preachers go too far with their rants.....haven't you ever been in church and rolled your eyes and said "oh brother" to yourself when the preacher said something really dumb???......

my point is sometimes you overlook certain flaws in people when they are your friends....I've had friends who have a hatred of gays and stuff like that but they were good people in other ways.....they were entitled to their opinions.....I disagreed but as long as they didn't take it to the next level and actually assault gays or discriminate against them then I was able to tolerate it and continue the friendships....people aren't perfect...neither are politicians

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #84 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:46:58 AM »

Andre:

I can honestly say i have never ever heard anything remotely like Rev. Wright in any church or service I have ever been to.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #85 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:49:03 AM »

Just wondering, Billy, 3333 what are your opinions of the southern strategy. I want to hear your moral view of it? Right or wrong?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #86 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:52:28 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2009, 07:49:03 AM

Just wondering, Billy, 3333 what are your opinions of the southern strategy. I want to hear your moral view of it? Right or wrong?

Morally? I have no problem with it.

Politics is war without bullets and the same thing goes on in the NE where I live, only in different ways.

All they do is scare people about the evil bible belt coming after womens' vaginas, etc.

They scare minorities about the GOP coming with sheets, etc.

Both sides do it.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #87 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:55:18 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 25, 2009, 07:52:28 AM

Morally? I have no problem with it.

Politics is war without bullets and the same thing goes on in the NE where I live, only in different ways.

All they do is scare people about the evil bible belt coming after womens' vaginas, etc.

They scare minorities about the GOP coming with sheets, etc.

Both sides do it.

well ok then what's your beef with a half black politician spending time in a community that obviously has a lot of black racists? How is Obama working their vote any different morally? You just said both sides do it but what? You only want to call Obama on it?

BM OUT · « **Reply #88 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:57:43 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2009, 07:49:03 AM

Just wondering, Billy, 3333 what are your opinions of the southern strategy. I want to hear your moral view of it? Right or wrong?

Its perfectly fine.Just as the democrats playing racial politics and getting 95% of the black vote in every election by painting republicans as racists.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #89 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:58:53 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 25, 2009, 07:57:43 AM

Its perfectly fine.Just as the democrats playing racial politics and getting 95% of the black vote in every election by painting republicans as racists.

then I also pose the same question to you that I did above for 333

BM OUT · « **Reply #90 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:00:23 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2009, 07:55:18 AM

well ok then what's your beef with a half black politician spending time in a community that obviously has a lot of black racists? How is Obama working their vote any different morally? You just said both sides do it but what? You only want to call Obama on it?

He sat in a church listening to a rabid racist.On top of that he lied and said he NEVER heard any racial rants.The guy LOVED Rev. Wright.He even wrote a book using one of Wrights sermons as the inspiration.Come on,it was A LOT more then just hanging around and getting votes.It was a devotion to the man.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #91 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:05:29 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 25, 2009, 08:00:23 AM

He sat in a church listening to a rabid racist.On top of that he lied and said he NEVER heard any racial rants.The guy LOVED Rev. Wright.He even wrote a book using one of Wrights sermons as the inspiration.Come on,it was A LOT more then just hanging around and getting votes.It was a devotion to the man.

that's nice, now try actually answering the question:

well ok then what's your beef with a half black politician spending time in a community that obviously has a lot of black racists? How is Obama working their vote any different morally? You just said both sides do it but what? You only want to call Obama on it?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #92 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:06:12 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2009, 07:58:53 AM

then I also pose the same question to you that I did above for 333

All Im saying is just be honest about who the guy is.

I can deal with a open racist who is honest about it far better than a closet racist who is sneaky about it and tells me what he thinks I want to hear.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #93 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:08:59 AM »

Billy, republicans were devoted to the southern strategy too. you both basically said that's ok. Now Obama is a fucking politician. If he's hanging around communities angry with whites, how's this any different? Really you're being a hypocrite if you think there is a legit moral difference.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #94 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:11:50 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 25, 2009, 08:06:12 AM

All Im saying is just be honest about who the guy is.

I can deal with a open racist who is honest about it far better than a closet racist who is sneaky about it and tells me what he thinks I want to hear.

honest about who he is? a politician? yea, I'm not in denial of that. You don't know if he is a racist or just playing a strategy any more than you know that of all republicans that benefited from the southern strategy.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #95 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:15:47 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2009, 08:11:50 AM

honest about who he is? a politician? yea, I'm not in denial of that. You don't know if he is a racist or just playing a strategy any more than you know that of all republicans that benefited from the southern strategy.

He played it from college on?

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #96 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:23:30 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 25, 2009, 08:15:47 AM

He played it from college on?

facts are he was playing politics IN COLLEGE. Yes, he absolutely had political ambitions with his moves after college. and that's hardly unusual. If you're making a moral argument of it, how long did republicans reap the rewards of the southern strategy?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #97 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:25:15 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2009, 08:23:30 AM

facts are he was playing politics IN COLLEGE. Yes, he absolutely had political ambitions with his moves after college. and that's hardly unusual. If you're making a moral arguement of it, how long did republicans reap the rewards of the southern strategy?

Ok. Hugo - I just dont like people like that. I like knowing where I stand with a person, whether they hate me or like me. I dont like slick slippery fake people.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #98 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:28:55 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on August 25, 2009, 07:57:43 AM

Its perfectly fine.Just as the democrats playing racial politics and getting 95% of the black vote in every election by painting republicans as racists.

not true...first of all Republicans DO NOT WANT THE BLACK VOTE..it would harm them because all the white racists and conservatives would realize they are on the same side as blacks and voting for the same candidate.....

second, notice that Republicans RARELY campaign in black neighborhoods.....they do this on purpose because even THEY know that blacks would never support them once they hear them takl about their regressive policies...also, if people don't hear what you stand for, they can't vote against you and won't be arroused enough to go to the polls....classic Rebulican strategy to suppress the vote...

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #99 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:33:25 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 25, 2009, 08:25:15 AM

Ok. Hugo - I just dont like people like that. I like knowing where I stand with a person, whether they hate me or like me. I dont like slick slippery fake people.

ok, you like knowing where they stand. I can understand that. But... here we go again... Denial of the southern strategy among republicans runs extremely high. so how's that any different than a perceived denial by Obama? You suggested politics is war and all is fair in that war morally since both sides play it. Isn't it hypocritical to nail Obama on it then?