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Re: Serve Your Master Obama...SICKENING!!!!
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2009, 07:13:34 AM »
James - you are about a week late on this.   ;D



Yet the video remains as disgusting as ever.  That video has everything I despise about celebrity and American politics.
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Re: Serve Your Master Obama...SICKENING!!!!
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2009, 10:51:28 AM »


Disgusting !

Someone should spend some time in jail for this shit! Fucking brain washing kids like that is plain wrong!

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Re: Serve Your Master Obama...SICKENING!!!!
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2009, 11:06:13 AM »
haha who gives a shit what Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher have to say about anything?

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2009, 11:28:33 AM »
As if the school kids having to do homework as to help Obama, now this?

WTF is going on in this country?  This truly is a cult of personality.  Eva Mendes should be ashamed of herself for being in this. 





Damn,,,,,,Horrible messages!!!

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2009, 01:18:37 PM »

Damn,,,,,,Horrible messages!!!

I'm Mons Venus, the cult of personality is my guiding light.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2009, 02:22:43 PM »
Obama before country....nice.

They sounds like they were in a psychedelic trance at the end.  Extremely disturbing!   

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2009, 02:25:00 PM »
8 months later...

maybe WE SHOULDN'T HAVE   :-\

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #82 on: September 10, 2009, 02:35:09 PM »
THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT ALWAYS SENDS CHILLS DOWN MY SPINE. 

we are dealing with a cold calculating despot who could not give a rats ass about the average American.   


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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #83 on: September 10, 2009, 02:45:03 PM »
THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT ALWAYS SENDS CHILLS DOWN MY SPINE. 

we are dealing with a cold calculating despot who could not give a rats ass about the average American.   


well I guess you can't say he's not brutally honest.  I don't think you would see any other politician who's not in their last term by choice tell the people they're going to pay out the ass for the policy he/she supports.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2009, 02:50:14 PM »
well I guess you can't say he's not brutally honest.  I don't think you would see any other politician who's not in their last term by choice tell the people they're going to pay out the ass for the policy he/she supports.

Thats brilliant, well atleast he's honest while he fucks you ::)
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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #85 on: September 10, 2009, 02:53:00 PM »
Thats brilliant, well atleast he's honest while he fucks you ::)
I wasn't addressing the issue, I was just shocked he actually said that. ::)  I see no reason it should be shocking or wrong to see that?  It's not the politicians way, even remotely.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2009, 02:53:42 PM »
Hugo - he fully knows that he is imposing serious hardship on people and doesnt even flinch at it.  


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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #87 on: September 10, 2009, 02:59:37 PM »
Hugo - he fully knows that he is imposing serious hardship on people and doesnt even flinch at it.  


yea, kind of like Bush and Oil.  Only Obama shockingly admits what it means to the people.  I'm sorry but I find that oddly noteworthy.  I'm not defending the policy.  I've just been kinda watching what happens in that area.  It wasn't really one of my priorities but I'm curious what the real motive behind it is.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #88 on: September 10, 2009, 03:03:14 PM »
yea, kind of like Bush and Oil.  Only Obama shockingly admits what it means to the people.  I'm sorry but I find that oddly noteworthy.  I'm not defending the policy.  I've just been kinda watching what happens in that area.  It wasn't really one of my priorities but I'm curious what the real motive behind it is.

Its to get people to use less energy in general.  If the cost is so high, they figure people will use less or find alternatives. 

Think sweaters, wood stoves, blankets, candels, in the winter.

Think sweat your ass off in the summer.   

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #89 on: September 10, 2009, 03:07:13 PM »
Its to get people to use less energy in general.  If the cost is so high, they figure people will use less or find alternatives. 

Think sweaters, wood stoves, blankets, candels, in the winter.

Think sweat your ass off in the summer.   
trust me, there might be something else at play.  There often is.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #90 on: September 10, 2009, 03:08:56 PM »
trust me, there might be something else at play.  There often is.

Yeah its called more control over the population
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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2009, 03:14:02 PM »
Yeah its called more control over the population
yea, that's a product of it.  What else?  I mean why focus only on the ball and not who tossed it?  I don't know that there is more, but seriously, there often is and most of the time, the heat is not on all the players or especially the major players.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #92 on: September 10, 2009, 03:17:19 PM »
yea, that's a product of it.  What else?  I mean why focus only on the ball and not who tossed it?  I don't know that there is more, but seriously, there often is and most of the time, the heat is not on all the players or especially the major players.

Depends on what you believe, but the UN has has been pushing this CO2 crap since the late 60's early 70's. Is there a movement toward a one world governance or some other power broker shit going on? Probably, you are not going to get people to agree to giving up their freedom until things are so bad they have no other choice.
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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #93 on: September 10, 2009, 03:17:30 PM »
yea, that's a product of it.  What else?  I mean why focus only on the ball and not who tossed it?  I don't know that there is more, but seriously, there often is and most of the time, the heat is not on all the players or especially the major players.

Hugo - I posted that article from Matt Tabii and he connected a lot of dots on this with Goldman Sachs owning 1/2 the trade exchange where these "carbon credits" will be traded.  GE is also lined up huge in this as are other mega corps.

Who is going to pay?????  You heard in this clip I posted.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #94 on: September 10, 2009, 03:19:08 PM »
Hugo - I posted that article from Matt Tabii and he connected a lot of dots on this with Goldman Sachs owning 1/2 the trade exchange where these "carbon credits" will be traded.  GE is also lined up huge in this as are other mega corps.

Who is going to pay?????  You heard in this clip I posted.
now we're getting somewhere.  kudos to Matt. 

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #95 on: September 10, 2009, 03:32:22 PM »
HUGO - CHECK THIS OUT.
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Taibbi: Guess Who's Getting Rich Off The Cap-and-Trade Bill?
Our Good Friends at Goldman Sachs!

By Susie Madrak Saturday Jun 27, 2009 11:00am I wish I'd been paying closer attention to this, because now I have a whole lot of questions that weren't there before I read Matt Taibbi's latest story for Rolling Stone: "How Goldman Sachs took over Washington by engineering every major market manipulation since the Great Depression."

But first, the "good" news:

WASHINGTON -- Landmark legislation to curb U.S. greenhouse gas emissions was approved by the House of Representatives in a close vote late Friday, securing a hard-fought victory for a cornerstone of President Barack Obama's agenda.

After months of negotiations, the Democratic-controlled House has narrowly passed sweeping legislation calling for the nation's first-ever limits on pollution linked to global warming. Stephen Power explains the bill's implications.

The 1,200 page bill—formally known as the "American Clean Energy and Security Act"—will reach into almost every corner of the U.S. economy. By putting a price on emissions of common gases, such as carbon dioxide, the bill would affect the way electricity is generated, how homes and offices are designed, how foreign trade is conducted and how much Americans pay to drive or to heat their homes.

Talking about how very deeply Goldman Sachs is embedded in the investors that will profit from cap-and-trade, Taibbi says:

Well, you might say, who cares? If cap-and-trade succeeds, won't we all be saved from the catastrophe of global warming? Maybe - but cap-and-trade, as envisioned by Goldman, is really just a carbon tax so that private interests collect the revenues. Instead of simply imposing a fixed government levy on carbon pollution and forcing unclean energy producers to pay for the mess they make, cap-and-trade will allow a small tribe of greedy-as-hell Wall Street swine to turn yet another commodities market into a private tax-collection scheme. This is worse than the bailout: It allows the bank to seize taxpayer money before it's even collected.

"If it's going to be a tax, I would prefer that Washington set the tax and collect it," says Michael Masters, the hedge-fund director who spoke out against oil-futures speculation. "But we're saying that Wall Street can set the tax, and Wall Street can collect the tax. That's the last thing in the world I want. It's just asinine."

Cap-and-trade is going to happen. [Ed. note - this was published yesterday.] Or, if it doesn't, something like it will. The moral is the same for all the other bubbles that Goldman helped create, from 1929 to 2009. In almost every case, the very same bank that behaved recklessly for years, weighing down the system with toxic loans and predatory debt, and accomplishing nothing but massive bonuses for a few bosses, has been rewarded with mountains of virtually free money and government guarantees - while the actual victims in this mess, ordinary taxpayers, are the ones paying for it.

It's not always easy to accept the reality of what we now routinely allow these people to get away with; there's a kind of collective denial that kicks in when a country goes through what America has gone through lately, when a people lose as much prestige and status as we have in the past few years. You can't really register the fact that you're no longer a citizen of a thriving first-world democracy, that you're no longer above getting robbed in broad daylight, because like an amputee, you still sort of feel things that are no longer there.

But this is it. This is the world we live in now. And in this world, some of us have to play by the rules, while others get a note from the principal excusing them from homework until the end of time, plus 10 billion free dollars in a paper bag to buy lunch. It's a gangster state, running on gangster economics, and even prices can't be trusted anymore; there are hidden taxes in every buck you pay. And maybe we can't stop it, but we should at least know where it's all going.

RS hasn't put it online but really, I strongly recommend buying the issue to support this kind of journalism.

You can read some comments on the piece here, here and here.
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The next time you hear about "global warming" and the need to push the "climate bill", think about what i just posted from Taibii. 

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #96 on: September 10, 2009, 04:13:39 PM »
ok, so someone wrote about it, exposing the government for and by the corporation.  Same as they did during the Bush years.  Yet they never get the heat for more than a few days if even that.  What's been your primary focus 3333?  Getting the corporate controlled dems out of power so you can get the corporate controlled republicans in power and we can keep going back and forth until we're all complete slaves and finally just die...  sounds like a blast.

I say forget the polititicans, it's time for a different strategy bigtime.  All I know is the circle of shit we're doing now is nothing but a circle of shit and everyone is wasting their time in it. 

crickets:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=294308.msg4191820#msg4191820

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #97 on: September 10, 2009, 04:26:20 PM »
ok, so someone wrote about it, exposing the government for and by the corporation.  Same as they did during the Bush years.  Yet they never get the heat for more than a few days if even that.  What's been your primary focus 3333?  Getting the corporate controlled dems out of power so you can get the corporate controlled republicans in power and we can keep going back and forth until we're all complete slaves and finally just die...  sounds like a blast.

I say forget the polititicans, it's time for a different strategy bigtime.  All I know is the circle of shit we're doing now is nothing but a circle of shit and everyone is wasting their time in it. 

crickets:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=294308.msg4191820#msg4191820

I already showed you than in 2005 I was thrown off FR for telling the truth about W. 

I believe in limited constitutionally controlled govt.  Even "ugly freedom" is better than the "pristine security".  That applies to money, free speech, etc.  I do not believe in anarchy, but a much severely restrained govt.  My views evolved greatly after seeing the damage W did.   

I am not in favor of GOP right now.  They are worthless.  The politicians need to be stopped because they have the power to enrich these corps via tax code laws, regulations, etc.  The pols and corps are in a co-dependent relationship where aeach relies on the other for power and money.   

This is why I believe in strict term limits, a massive decrease in govt spending nad law making ability, ending of all subisidies to all corporations, etc.

If a company cant exist wo govt money, it should not exist.  Additionally, the govt should not be picking winners and losers via the tax code and corrupt pork bills.     

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #98 on: September 10, 2009, 04:46:11 PM »
I already showed you than in 2005 I was thrown off FR for telling the truth about W.  

I believe in limited constitutionally controlled govt.  Even "ugly freedom" is better than the "pristine security".  That applies to money, free speech, etc.  I do not believe in anarchy, but a much severely restrained govt.  My views evolved greatly after seeing the damage W did.  

I am not in favor of GOP right now.  They are worthless.  The politicians need to be stopped because they have the power to enrich these corps via tax code laws, regulations, etc.  The pols and corps are in a co-dependent relationship where aeach relies on the other for power and money.    

This is why I believe in strict term limits, a massive decrease in govt spending nad law making ability, ending of all subisidies to all corporations, etc.

If a company cant exist wo govt money, it should not exist.  Additionally, the govt should not be picking winners and losers via the tax code and corrupt pork bills.      
I think this is a cop out considering the style of your posts.  I find it very hard to believe that your main focus is not getting the dems out of power to get the republicans in power.  it sure seems like it to me.  like it or not that's the cycle you're fully participating in.  At least I'm trying to propose ideas they don't want us engaging in.  What's going on now is both planned and expected just as the outcome is.  They're playing us like a cheap fiddle.  It's time to ignore them and figure out a different path, one not so easily anticpated and manipulated.  I'm sick of watching this broken record spin.

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Re: I PLEDGE (WTF is going on in this country?)
« Reply #99 on: September 11, 2009, 04:49:21 AM »
I think this is a cop out considering the style of your posts.  I find it very hard to believe that your main focus is not getting the dems out of power to get the republicans in power.  it sure seems like it to me.  like it or not that's the cycle you're fully participating in.  At least I'm trying to propose ideas they don't want us engaging in.  What's going on now is both planned and expected just as the outcome is.  They're playing us like a cheap fiddle.  It's time to ignore them and figure out a different path, one not so easily anticpated and manipulated.  I'm sick of watching this broken record spin.

The best we can hope for is gridlock.  Whent he govt is not doing anything, and not passing more laws to curtail our freedoms and tax us more, that is good for all of us.