Who is the better BB all time Flex Wheeler or Nasser

[ag2]

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[El Diablo Blanco]

No contest.  nasser it at least 3 times Mr. Olympia, Flex isn't

[Wiggs]

lol...Not even close..Flex DESTROYS Nasser...Nassole would whine like a baby about how Flex was an Illusion.

[NarcissisticDeity]

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Come on 

[divcom]

where are the mods?  cant take another nassar thread.

[ag2]

Come on 

Hey man, I enjoyed the Kevin and Nasser discussion between you and Bob's so much I thought why not keep going, Infact we were leaving the office last Friday and Bob's saw that you had posted a reply on the other thread and he turned back in the parking lot and went back to the office to reply, now that is a dedicated fan  , Oh and just for you I started the Nasser v Dorian thread 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hey man, I enjoyed the Kevin and Nasser discussion between you and Bob's so much I thought why not keep going, Infact we were leaving the office last Friday and Bob's saw that you had posted a reply on the other thread and he turned back in the parking lot and went back to the office to reply, now that is a dedicated fan  , Oh and just for you I started the Nasser v Dorian thread 

well it took a while for the facts to sink into these guys heads in that thread , I don't think they dare touch this one after the " Shock and Awe " of that one 

[bigbobs]

What's the critieria?

Is it simply contest placings over the whole pro career including the beginning and end, and according to often-biased judges?

Or is a comparison of their physiques?

If it's a comparison of their physiques it's simple - Flex had large arms and delts but a lack of width, thickness and size everywhere else - but with good detail on those small muscles...and calf implants.  Nasser not only had large arms and delts but matching width and thickness and was very detailed everywhere - just slightly less detailed in the back.  In certain poses Wheeler's lack of size relatively to Nasser really showed - like the ab-thigh pose where Wheeler looks like a narrow pole next to Huge Nasser.  Overall Nasser wins.

[NarcissisticDeity]

What's the critieria?

Is it simply contest placings over the whole pro career including the beginning and end, and according to often-biased judges?

Or is a comparison of their physiques?

If it's a comparison of their physiques it's simple - Flex had large arms and delts but a lack of width, thickness and size everywhere else - but with good detail on those small muscles...and calf implants.  Nasser not only had large arms and delts but matching width and thickness and was very detailed everywhere - just slightly less detailed in the back.  In certain poses Wheeler's lack of size relatively to Nasser really showed - like the ab-thigh pose where Wheeler looks like a narrow pole next to Huge Nasser.  Overall Nasser wins.

hahahahahahah Flex had calf implants and Nasser had synthol injections and he had NO thickness in his back it was wide but lacked depth and thickness not compared to Dorian but compared to a man who was sporting 275-285 pounds physique his back was lacking severely

and the title says " Who is the better BB all time " that includes professional records which Flex shames Nasser on

you can argue who has the better physique at their best that's more subjective and opinions are what they are and mine says Flex by a country mile , both have weaknesses and strengths with all things considered Flex OBLITERATES Nasser worse than Kevin does ( physique wise )

[mesmorph78]

no contest..
flex...
nasser should be even mentioned in the same sentence phsysique wise...
flex has the best build of all time...
nasser is a hot mess...
in comparision

[bigbobs]

hahahahahahah Flex had calf implants and Nasser had synthol injections and he had NO thickness in his back it was wide but lacked depth and thickness not compared to Dorian but compared to a man who was sporting 275-285 pounds physique his back was lacking severely
 

 

[mesmorph78]

I dont think you should be using that pic to support your argument
in that pic he is holding in his gut.. imagine if he relaxed it...
he should be thick in the back not in the gut

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hahahahaha that's Thickness and DEPTH in the traps , teres major & minor , infraspinatus , spinal erectors ? lower lats? where is this thickness & depth ? 


his midsection is thick , defined sure but thick 

[bigbobs]

I dont think you should be using that pic to support your argument
in that pic he is holding in his gut.. imagine if he relaxed it...
he should be thick in the back not in the gut

lol what is that supposed to mean every pro holds in their gut for poses?  

That picture shows back thickness since it's taken at a perpendicular angle and even though his arms are up which stretches the back he's still sporting thickness in his lats and his lower back and spinal errectors even cave out, which again show tremendous back thickness.

[NarcissisticDeity]

A year YOU claimed was one of his best

[mesmorph78]

lol what is that supposed to mean every pro holds in their gut for poses?  

That picture shows back thickness since it's taken at a perpendicular angle and even though his arms are up which stretches the back he's still sporting thickness in his lats and his lower back and spinal errectors even cave out, which again show tremendous back thickness.

nasser doesnt gave a thick back he has a wide back....

[bigbobs]

A year YOU claimed was one of his best

That picture shows back detail, but you need a side shot if you're trying to show thickness.  Thickness is the third dimension that's not shown in pictures that are taken directly behind or in front of a person.

[ag2]

Ok but, who has the better pro record?

to be fair let's set the criteria as being comaprison shots, that wy we can see who is better in certain poses,

If we compare based on pro records it is unfair as Flex has Nasser beat by a long shot

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol what is that supposed to mean every pro holds in their gut for poses?  

That picture shows back thickness since it's taken at a perpendicular angle and even though his arms are up which stretches the back he's still sporting thickness in his lats and his lower back and spinal errectors even cave out, which again show tremendous back thickness.

lmao his spinal erectors cave out? where are they ?? they are NOT visible his whole back is soft DON'T MISTAKE fat for muscle thickness , big difference between being thick with density and full i.e. soft

his back was always soft he never showed any detail or density in his back , you never seen a Nasser x-mas tree or shredded lower lats because he was usually carrying around a lot of fat and water

you compared backs , Nasser on the left has a very good back showing excellent detail , separation and depth , the heavier he became ALL of that was lost , his extra mass hurt his back . The pic of Nasser on the left is as dried out as he could this is what his back is supposed to be but can't have that when you want to be 270 pounds , Unless your Dorian Yates 

[bigbobs]

lmao his spinal erectors cave out? where are they ?? they are NOT visible his whole back is soft DON'T MISTAKE fat for muscle thickness , big difference between being thick with density and full i.e. soft

his back was always soft he never showed any detail or density in his back , you never seen a Nasser x-mas tree or shredded lower lats because he was usually carrying around a lot of fat and water

you compared backs , Nasser on the left has a very good back showing excellent detail , separation and depth , the heavier he became ALL of that was lost , his extra mass hurt his back . The pic of Nasser on the left is as dried out as he could this is what his back is supposed to be but can't have that when you want to be 270 pounds , Unless your Dorian Yates  

Yet the judges much preferred the version on the right to the left, and since you always stick to judging decisions as yours what does that tell you?

Also, that particular 97 shot isn't the best lighting, looks a bit better here, as well as the 96 shot underneath (which btw shows some christmas tree too)

[NarcissisticDeity]

That picture shows back detail, but you need a side shot if you're trying to show thickness.  Thickness is the third dimension that's not shown in pictures that are taken directly behind or in front of a person.

See this is exactly your problem and I now know why you think he's much better than he really was , you're ignorant and it's not a dig on you or your intelligence , we all don't know until we learn

He has NO detail in that pic he has pretty good separation of the traps and every other muscle he is severely lacking in DEPTH which you can gauge via pics , his middle & lower back are soft as hell and he's hold water ( nothing new from the back ) compared to him to Flex & Ronnie and please learn what detail , depth and thickness are it's staggering the difference

and you're right . we really can't gauge thickness via two dimensional pictures this is where eyewitness accounts come into play in which numerous experts have said Nasser was not the same imposing force from the sides as he was from the front , and Dorian touched on this very topic when asked if he should have won against Nasser , he said ( paraphrasing ) yes because pictures don't tell the whole story , when you turn to the side and you're twice as thick as the other guys two dimensional photos don't show this

and you just claimed thickness can't be seen in pics yet posted a pic to counter my point his back wasn't thick LMAO which is it?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yet the judges much preferred the version on the right to the left, and since you always stick to judging decisions as yours what does that tell you?

Also, that particular 97 shot isn't the best lighting, looks a bit better here, as well as the 96 shot underneath (which btw shows some christmas tree too)

It doesn't matter , what matters is his back SUCKS and man you SHOULD NEVER EVER post a side-by-side with Dorian to brag about Nasser's back lmao big FAIL

Bob's that's NOT a x-mas tree dude seriously it's not , he never had any striations in his lower lats & spinal erectors NEVER

this is an x-mas tree for future reference

[Danimal77]

Bob, you truly believe that Nasser was the best bodybuilder of all time? Do you think he was better than Ronnie in his prime? Do you think ANYONE was better than Nasser at his best? I'm starting to think that you're blind obsession with Nasser is equal to Hulksters infatuation with Coleman.

[Wiggs]

Notice how Bob wants to change the criteria for judging between these tow open vs. what he did vs. Kevin to suit himself. I think the only time Nassole beat Flex was 95 and 96 Olympia...Of course bob would say 97 also even though Flex didn't compete...

[Sherief Shalaby]

A year YOU claimed was one of his best

nasser is noticeably the farest to the camera here so what is your point to use this certain picture?.. no wonder, this is always your way, to use certain pics to prove a certain point!!..