Glenn Beck Now Claims 1.7 Million Attended 9-12 Protests

[Hugo Chavez]

tony, don't cry...  sometimes people like you say stupid shit.  I forgive you

[tonymctones]

lol please hugo define "subjective" for me

really do this for me please

[Hugo Chavez]

lol please hugo define "subjective" for me

really do this for me please

you're really a freaking dimwit sometimes.  I was making fun of YOUR application of subjective--your stupid full glass story. I didn't say it's not what subjective means   I'm making fun of it because it does not apply at all since the reporters statement IS NOT SUBJECTIVE IN ANY FUCKING WAY...  He points to a group of people and says it applies all the way to the back of the mall.  There is nothing subjective there.  It implies a direct condition of the mall that DID NOT FUCKING EXIST YOU MORON....

enjoy your day

[240 is Back]

it attracts attention same as MSNBC and olbeirman

Allowing an anchor to exaggerate numbers by a factor of 30... for attention?

Um, okay.

[tonymctones]

you're really a freaking dimwit sometimes.  I was making fun of YOUR application of subjective--your stupid full glass story. I didn't say it's not what subjective means   I'm making fun of it because it does not apply at all since the reporters statement IS NOT SUBJECTIVE IN ANY FUCKING WAY...  He points to a group of people and says it applies all the way to the back of the mall.  There is nothing subjective there.  It implies a direct condition of the mall that DID NOT FUCKING EXIST YOU MORON....

enjoy your day

well since you spun the reporters words into "he said it was full" what do you expect?

when you said he reported it was "full" that was subjective

what you just said wasnt as much maybe next time you shouldnt spin or just say what the reporter actually said  

[Hugo Chavez]

and you're the idiot.  go back and read my love and lipo example.  It clearly shows a subjective situation, you then go on in the next post to tell me love is subjective too   duh...  That's what I was saying.  I was mocking you, laughing at you.  It's stupid to point out since the condition the fox reporter stated is not subjective.  It was just false.  At no point did the mall ever match the description given.  at no point did the mall reflect the group of people he pointed at.  PERIOD.

[Hugo Chavez]

well since you spun the reporters words into "he said it was full" what do you expect?

when you said he reported it was "full" that was subjective

what you just said wasnt as much maybe next time you shouldnt spin or just say what the reporter actually said  

now you're really being a dumbshit.  What is the difference between him pointing to a tightly packed group and saying it goes back like that all the way to the end AND full?  It's the same fucking thing Tony.  You're getting desperate.

[tonymctones]

Allowing an anchor to exaggerate numbers by a factor of 30... for attention?

Um, okay.

allowing an anchor to call ppl racists agree when a guest on their show calls ppl racist rednecks...

um, okay  

[tonymctones]

now you're really being a dumbshit.  What is the difference between him pointing to a tightly packed group and saying it goes back like that all the way to the end AND full?  It's the same fucking thing Tony.  You're getting desperate.

LOL no sir youre the desperate one

pointing to an example and saying the rest is the same is a lie

saying "full" is open to interpretation 

[Hugo Chavez]

LOL no sir youre the desperate one

pointing to an example and saying the rest is the same is a lie

saying "full" is open to interpretation 

LOL no sir youre the desperate one.

[FarRightLooney]

Either Obama's inaugurations had "10s of thousands"
OR
The 9/12 March had "1.8M"

Also, the 9/12 March was not allowed to have a permit to use the Mall. The people on the Mall should not have been there, and were told by security to stay off - even though they/we pay for it.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_are_estimated_to_have_attended_Barack_Obama's_Inauguration_Speech
   
Q: How many people are estimated to have attended Barack Obama's Inauguration Speech?

A: Estimates vary between 800,000 and 3 million people in attendance:
-- The 800,000-person calculation was made based upon a satellite image taken at 11:20 a.m. ET;
-- The 3-million calculation was based upon the video footage of the event.

Go look at:

Park service changes course, plans to offer crowd estimate (Obama)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-19-crowd_N.htm
The big green area in the "240,000 Ticketed area" is the water in the following shots

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/09/conservative-woodstock-rocks-the-capital/

Notice the people backed up in the streets on the left and right - the one on the right is Constitution Ave.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/bstein80/hundreds-of-thousands-of-patriots-march-on-dc

Do your own research so you can see for yourself with images you yourself deem as not being photoshopped.

[Hugo Chavez]

Either Obama's inaugurations had "10s of thousands"
OR
The 9/12 March had "1.8M"

Also, the 9/12 March was not allowed to have a permit to use the Mall. The people on the Mall should not have been there, and were told by security to stay off - even though they/we pay for it.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_are_estimated_to_have_attended_Barack_Obama's_Inauguration_Speech
   
Q: How many people are estimated to have attended Barack Obama's Inauguration Speech?

A: Estimates vary between 800,000 and 3 million people in attendance:
-- The 800,000-person calculation was made based upon a satellite image taken at 11:20 a.m. ET;
-- The 3-million calculation was based upon the video footage of the event.

Go look at:

Park service changes course, plans to offer crowd estimate (Obama)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-19-crowd_N.htm
The big green area in the "240,000 Ticketed area" is the water in the following shots

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/09/conservative-woodstock-rocks-the-capital/

Notice the people backed up in the streets on the left and right - the one on the right is Constitution Ave.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/bstein80/hundreds-of-thousands-of-patriots-march-on-dc

Do your own research so you can see for yourself with images you yourself deem as not being photoshopped.

so maybe you have an explanation for why the Fox reporter depiced the mall as full?  Why would he lie like that if they couldn't even be on it?  If that's even true. 

[FarRightLooney]

I believe most of them just pull numbers out of their a$$.

[tonymctones]

so maybe you have an explanation for why the Fox reporter depiced the mall as full?  Why would he lie like that if they couldn't even be on it?  If that's even true. 

you have a clip hugo?

you said he said "full" then you said he implied it now youre saying he said "full" again.

Just post a clip or link to what he said verbatim

[pedro01]

Do you guys not find it amusing that you are getting your panties in a twist over a news channel directed by an Australian ?

This is Murdoch TV, that's what you are witnessing here. FOX reporters are just doing what their paymaster wants. It really is that simple & evident wherever Murdoch has a large footprint in the media.

This is entertainment, not politics.

[Hugo Chavez]

you have a clip hugo?

you said he said "full" then you said he implied it now youre saying he said "full" again.

Just post a clip or link to what he said verbatim

oh shut up, what he said is the same as full.  So what, I paraphrase by saying full because what he said is exactly the same as saying it was full.  And it doesn't matter how subjective "full" is.  Subjective estimates for a full mall are all huge.  It could mean 950,000 or 1.4 million in the mall.  And the point of my question is why did the fox reporter even say the crowd went all the way back on the mall if they didn't even have permission to be on the mall if that's actually true?  You are the one spinning it, you and the reporter for Fox.

[tonymctones]

oh shut up, what he said is the same as full.  So what, I paraphrase by saying full because what he said is exactly the same as saying it was full.  And it doesn't matter how subjective "full" is.  Subjective estimates for a full mall are all huge.  It could mean 950,000 or 1.4 million in the mall.  And the point of my question is why did the fox reporter even say the crowd went all the way back on the mall if they didn't even have permission to be on the mall if that's actually true?  You are the one spinning it, you and the reporter for Fox.

so he never said full?

or full could mean that you have trouble walking without having to move out of the way...ever been to a mall during the holidays i consider that full probably no where near a million ppl in there though...

I agree with you alot of inconsistencies in this story, but you "paraphrasing" cough(spinning) doesnt help 

bottom line if fox got it wrong they should retract it, so should msnbc, cnn etc if they showed pics that werent accurate...

no discuss the merits of their message...

[Hugo Chavez]

do you know what synonymous means?

tell me what the difference between someone saying "full" and someone saying "that packed crowd goes all to the end of the mall"

 

[Hugo Chavez]

if anything I'm cutting the fox reporter a break by saying "full"  Pointing to that packed crowd like he did and saying it goes all the way back a mile is representitive of your glass being filled to the brim

[tonymctones]

if anything I'm cutting the fox reporter a break by saying "full"  Pointing to that packed crowd like he did and saying it goes all the way back a mile is representitive of your glass being filled to the brim

and like ive already said stick with that b/c you have a point there and I already said I agreed with you

but you paraphrased and its not the same

[Hugo Chavez]

and like ive already said stick with that b/c you have a point there and I already said I agreed with you

but you paraphrased and its not the same

oh good grief lol... Ok, I quit, I win and I accept your apology for being wrong

[tonymctones]

oh good grief lol... Ok, I quit, I win and I accept your apology for being wrong

hahahahah 

[pedro01]

Sad really, to see that none of you can see what is behind your own arguments.

Rupert Murdoch Vs Ted Turner is not the issue.

Intelligence & knowledge Vs Turner & Murdoch is the issue.

You can argue which channel has it right all you like.You are NOT debating the issues, but you are arguing about an obfuscation of the issues.

Keep on going on about 1.4 Million vs 60K people & you will have done what Turner, Murdoch et al want you to do - argue about the difference between 2 or 3 corporations interpretation of the issues instead of actually looking at the issues themselves.

The US has become a parody of democracy. I'm glad I live in a corrupt 3rd world backwater where I'm an alien that can't vote - at least I don't have to kid myself I have a choice.

[Hugo Chavez]

Sad really, to see that none of you can see what is behind your own arguments.

Rupert Murdoch Vs Ted Turner is not the issue.

Intelligence & knowledge Vs Turner & Murdoch is the issue.

You can argue which channel has it right all you like.You are NOT debating the issues, but you are arguing about an obfuscation of the issues.

Keep on going on about 1.4 Million vs 60K people & you will have done what Turner, Murdoch et al want you to do - argue about the difference between 2 or 3 corporations interpretation of the issues instead of actually looking at the issues themselves.
The US has become a parody of democracy. I'm glad I live in a corrupt 3rd world backwater where I'm an alien that can't vote - at least I don't have to kid myself I have a choice.

pm either me or MB_722 on this.  you might be shocked at what you discover.  by the way, Turner doesn't have any control of CNN anymore but that's not the point, just for your info.

[pedro01]

pm either me or MB_722 on this.  you might be shocked at what you discover.  by the way, Turner doesn't have any control of CNN anymore but that's not the point, just for your info.

Are you talking about ze Jews ?