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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2009, 12:25:44 AM »
Melvin's glutes are softer than ever

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2009, 12:26:09 AM »
No way in fuck Phil places ahead of Kai...Kai should be no lower than 2nd  but will probably be 3rd.
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2009, 12:33:26 AM »
No way in fuck Phil places ahead of Kai...Kai should be no lower than 2nd  but will probably be 3rd.

well...i've said in the O AMI will not allow kai, vic or wolfe (only dex and jay til he is ready) to place ahead of phil, still think so.  kai is like a short ronnie coleman, has odd shape but back is think and wide.  phil cant spread with him.  thick as the sh#t but still an odd guy.  

on a side phil is adding too much like wheeler did, cant put on size like that with his wide, starting to look odd shaped when relaxed.  poor man's flex wheeler.

anyway...to the boxing score cards tonight.  do the judges still use pencils...shawn?
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2009, 12:36:17 AM »
well...i've said in the O AMI will not allow kai, vic or wolfe (only dex and jay til he is ready) to place ahead of phil, still think so.  kai is like a short ronnie coleman, has odd shape but back is think and wide.  phil cant spread with him.  thick as the sh#t but still an odd guy.  

on a side phil is adding too much like wheeler did, cant put on size like that with his wide, starting to look odd shaped when relaxed.  poor man's flex wheeler.

anyway...to the boxing score cards tonight.  do the judges still use pencils...shawn?
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2009, 12:45:08 AM »
the last call-out was misleading

I think Dex was there as a courtesy to the reigning Mr. O

he should place no higher than 4th, in my opinion

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2009, 12:47:17 AM »
naw man, kai wins the ab and thigh, jay wins the rear lat spread. everything else is kai.

No waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Jay "Jesus Christ" Cutler has bigger delts, better chest and back's are about equal. Kai has better legs.

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2009, 05:59:21 AM »
Jay looks better than usual (which isn't saying much)

Kai does not look as good as he did at the Arnold.

its close

Kai has better lines though, that might turn the tide in his favor.
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2009, 06:03:23 AM »
Wiggs, Jay will win over Kai because:

- Kai has small trapz
- Kai has a semi-weak lower back
- Kai hasn't got Jay's structure (body proportions)

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2009, 06:03:47 AM »
I agree Jay is way blocky.  But Kai is a fucking midget.  Kai is so fucking short when he does his rear lat spread he doesn't even have a lower back.  It's all lats.  Looks retarded from behind.  

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2009, 06:08:37 AM »
I am a huge Fan of Kai. And I am not a fan of Jay.

But, Hey, this time Jay beat him absolutely.
 
Have to admit it.

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2009, 06:09:43 AM »
Not sure, Kai has no chest, his FLS and relaxed looks absolutely pathetic; He was also way sharper at the Arnolds.

Like someone said before, as Jay is way better than everyone expected, and Kai is weaker than everyone expected, that will give Jay the edge. No matter who is in fact better or not.

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2009, 06:10:24 AM »
Quote
And Video dont

remind me to quote you next time your participating in the dorian ronnie threads hahahaha :P 8)
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2009, 06:11:13 AM »
Cutler is just better then Kai,

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2009, 06:18:13 AM »
the last call-out was misleading

I think Dex was there as a courtesy to the reigning Mr. O

he should place no higher than 4th, in my opinion

Wow, open your eyes. Dex is the biggest he's been and has nailed his condition. Nobody on that stage is put together as well. It's between him and Jay. Kai was off, Phil was off. They are battling for 3rd and Branch is right there with them.

Jay or Dex 1 & 2. Clearly the 2 best on stage at pre-judging.

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2009, 06:20:11 AM »
Jay wins ab and thighs and Kai wins everything else...

Kai pulls his thong up his ass crack.

Jay doesn't.

Game over.

Jay wins loses. :-\
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2009, 06:30:17 AM »
kai is (very slightly) worse than expected and jay is better than expected. That right there is enough to see jay win.
Just because Jay is better than expected and Kai is not does not constitute win for Jay. Jay must be absolute head and shoulders above the rest. And he is not. If he is beaten by others in most poses, yet he came at his all time best, then he gets the "improved" award. And his brb pose is wanting--his lower has a hole compared to his protege and Kai

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2009, 06:33:06 AM »
Melvin's glutes are softer than ever

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2009, 07:47:10 AM »
Kai looks good in certain poses but in others he looks like a stump.
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2009, 07:58:14 AM »
Jay looks good, if he can hold it together and not blow it tonight

but am i the only thinking the kai is owning all of them?

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2009, 08:33:28 AM »
Jay looks good, if he can hold it together and not blow it tonight

but am i the only thinking the kai is owning all of them?
Nope I agree Jay is just blocky his structure isnt pleasing he cant help that though but hey depends on what judges agree on.

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2009, 08:51:14 AM »
Kai's shape is shit and judges' want shape.
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2009, 08:55:06 AM »
Are you blind?  Kai wins ab/thigh by a mile.  His lats and V taper are way better and his lines are just plain superior!
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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2009, 08:59:11 AM »
Kai is a lock for 3rd,no way phil beats him.
I dont think the judges at this point consider Kai any where near Jay

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2009, 09:01:06 AM »
Kai is a lock for 3rd,no way phil beats him.
I dont think the judges at this point consider Kai any where near Jay

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Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2009, 09:03:44 AM »
You can almost hear Jay saying to himself "why can't my other leg look like this. Maybe if i try to tuck my withered one behind the other, the judges won't notice it."