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NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #25 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:36:33 PM »

Nasser clearly beats Jay in abdominal & thighs and maybe standing relaxed and you can argue front double biceps pose but all other poses Jay clearly bests Nasser

bigbobs · « **Reply #26 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:39:43 PM »

Quote from: BigBuehl on September 28, 2009, 04:33:13 PM

Cmon put up any front shot and Nasser destroys Jay. Nasser is wasp-waisted compared to him. Jays back is better but he doesnt have some kind of world beating back. For christ sakes his lower back skin folds up its not tight. Nassers back double bi looks better too because of his taper. It took the best back in history to keep Nasser from being Olympia and I dont think Jay is even in the same universe as King Dorian. Not a Nasser fan by the way

Thanks for keeping it real BigBuehl. Jay from last weekend was amazing but would not compare to this:

YoungBlood · « **Reply #27 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:40:57 PM »

Will there ever be an end to these Nasser postings?

You twinks find any possible way to compare Nasser to anything....

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #28 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:42:11 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2009, 03:54:00 PM

More Bobs delusion , NO WAY shape or form are their backs comparable NO WAY , Jay's back is much better not in the Yates/Ronnie league but eons better than Nasser

That Jay would beat any version of Nasser because he's just as big better conditioned and he has a better back

Agreed.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #29 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:42:14 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on September 28, 2009, 04:39:43 PM

Thanks for keeping it real BigBuehl. Jay from last weekend was amazing but would not compare to this:

Aren't those from all contests he lost?

Nasser wins the poses I mentioned but Jay would beat him any year you pick sans those shots

bigbobs · « **Reply #30 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:42:35 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2009, 04:36:33 PM

Nasser clearly beats Jay in abdominal & thighs and maybe standing relaxed and you can argue front double biceps pose but all other poses Jay clearly bests Nasser

Okay, so you're admitting that Nasser is better in 3 mandatories, and there are 7 mandatories in total - so that itself shows you do admit it is close at least. I would disagree that Jay beats Nasser in the side poses and the back poses which may go to Jay are not as decisive as Nasser beats Jay in front poses like the ab and thigh or front double biceps...therefore Nasser > Jay

bigbobs · « **Reply #31 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:44:26 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on September 28, 2009, 04:40:57 PM

Will there ever be an end to these Nasser postings?

You twinks find any possible way to compare Nasser to anything....

Actually I posted earlier that IMO 2009 Jay would get 5th or 6th in any Olympia from 95 to 2000, so therefore it's not just a matter of Nasser being better than him.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #32 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:53:27 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on September 28, 2009, 04:42:35 PM

Okay, so you're admitting that Nasser is better in 3 mandatories, and there are 7 mandatories in total - so that itself shows you do admit it is close at least. I would disagree that Jay beats Nasser in the side poses and the back poses which may go to Jay are not as decisive as Nasser beats Jay in front poses like the ab and thigh or front double biceps...therefore Nasser > Jay

More than just poses my friend in a contest and there are eight mandatories 1) front double biceps 2) rear double biceps 3) ab-thigh 4) side chest 5) side triceps 6) front latspread 7) rear latspread

most muscular much to learn about competitive bodybuilding you still have

don't forget the standing relaxed from the front , rear and the 1/4 turns which Nasser would win maybe the front one

Jay considered all this would clearly beat Nasser not closely

bigbobs · « **Reply #33 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:00:56 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2009, 04:53:27 PM

More than just poses my friend in a contest and there are eight mandatories 1) front double biceps 2) rear double biceps 3) ab-thigh 4) side chest 5) side triceps 6) front latspread 7) rear latspread most muscular much to learn about competitive bodybuilding you still have

don't forget the standing relaxed from the front , rear and the 1/4 turns which Nasser would win maybe the front one

Jay considered all this would clearly beat Nasser not closely

LOL, Okay, so I missed another mandatory which Nasser clearly beats Jay in. Thanks for clarifying and adding another reason why Nasser > Jay

Neptune100 · « **Reply #34 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:01:13 PM »

nasser wins

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #35 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:03:35 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on September 28, 2009, 05:00:56 PM

LOL, Okay, so I missed another mandatory which Nasser clearly beats Jay in. Thanks for clarifying and adding another reason why Nasser > Jay

says you but then again you're the guy who thinks their backs are comparable $:-\$

and you missed more than just one mandatory

hench · « **Reply #36 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:08:20 PM »

i think jay takes the rls, nasser takes the rdb

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #37 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:11:17 PM »

The bottom line is that while Jay inevitably climbed the mountain to grab not just 1, but now 3 Sandows, Nasser took a detour to Synthol Land. Nasser struggled to win 1 Arnold title, while Jay won 3. Jay > Nasser. Physique vs physique, Jay still gets the nod, sorry. 2001, or even the Jay of this past weekend trumps any version of Nasser.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #38 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:20:48 PM »

Hey bobs? Who's Nasser gonna beat for the 2010 Olympia title?

Danimal77 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:31:01 PM »

This is crazy!!!! So Jay Cutler was #1 this year. Reality check: he would NOT have been #1, or not even in the top 6 from 1995-2000. He is not a quality bodybuilders, with size, sick conditioning, striations, cuts and definition all over.

Levrone was better than him.
Wheeler was better than him.
Yates was better than him.
Coleman was better than him.
Dillett was better than him.
Cormier was better than him.
Vince Taylor was better than him.
Haney was better than him.
Mike Francois was better than him.
Shawn Ray was better than him.
Nasser was better than him.

Here's a question? Many of those men did NOT win a single title, yet they were ALL in a different league than Cutler at HIS best.

wannabebig5 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:45:40 PM »

alright i pretty much never post here but i thought this post was funny. if levrone and cormier are better then jay then why did he routinely beat them? levrone and cormier always beat dillett so i would say jay would as well. look at the contest history. everyone sees jay as a blcoky bber but when he stands next to some of these narrow bbers he puts them to shame. side by side he beats nasser+cormier+levrone etc. coleman and yates ok those are different but the rest jay would hold his own if not win. just look at this year when he was standing next to branch (another mass monster) at the end of the show and absolutley made him look like a child. just one white mans opinion by the way!

Quote from: Danimal77 on September 28, 2009, 05:31:01 PM

This is crazy!!!! So Jay Cutler was #1 this year. Reality check: he would NOT have been #1, or not even in the top 6 from 1995-2000. He is not a quality bodybuilders, with size, sick conditioning, striations, cuts and definition all over.

Levrone was better than him.
Wheeler was better than him.
Yates was better than him.
Coleman was better than him.
Dillett was better than him.
Cormier was better than him.
Vince Taylor was better than him.
Haney was better than him.
Mike Francois was better than him.
Shawn Ray was better than him.
Nasser was better than him.

Here's a question? Many of those men did NOT win a single title, yet they were ALL in a different league than Cutler at HIS best.

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #41 on:** September 28, 2009, 06:33:20 PM »

Quote from: Danimal77 on September 28, 2009, 05:31:01 PM

This is crazy!!!! So Jay Cutler was #1 this year. Reality check: he would NOT have been #1, or not even in the top 6 from 1995-2000. He is not a quality bodybuilders, with size, sick conditioning, striations, cuts and definition all over.

~~Levrone was better than him.~~
~~Wheeler was better than him.~~
Yates was better than him.
Coleman was better than him.
~~Dillett was better than him.~~
~~Cormier was better than him.~~
~~Vince Taylor was better than him.~~
Haney was better than him.
~~Mike Francois was better than him.~~
~~Shawn Ray was better than him.~~
~~Nasser was better than him.~~

Here's a question? Many of those men did NOT win a single title, yet they were ALL in a different league than Cutler at HIS best.

Fixed

In 2001 Jay served notice and actually beat Ronnie during the prejudging rounds. Ronnie may not have been at his all time best, but was still no slouch in 2001 either. Are we to believe that the physiques only a year prior to that in 2000 would have destroyed the 2001 version of Jay? Hardly. There are bodybuilders you list who were better, in theory only. Dillett could have been a monster unlike any ever seen before, but didn't amount to even a fraction of what he could have. Shawn Ray? Shawn never changed drastically from year to year. Where did Shawn place in 2001? Levrone, though accomplished, never really seemed to put it all together for the O. He had years where he looked very good, like 1995, but are we to believe 2001 Jay wouldn't be able to hang with him? He would have and may even defeat 1995 Levrone. Francois was very good, but never had a chance to explore his full potential and would not have defeated 2001 Jay or 2009 Jay. Nasser, well, Nasser was too one dimensional. Flex had the world by the balls, but not once did he ever come into the Olympia at his all time best. I'll put 2001 Jay against any Olympia version of Flex Wheeler, any day. All time best Flex, that might be different. Cormier? Could of, should of, would of, but didn't.

delta9mda · « **Reply #42 on:** September 28, 2009, 06:46:26 PM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on September 28, 2009, 03:14:42 PM

Not beside the wizard

stop you love for the cock. Nasser has no Olympia wins. get over it.

Royalty · « **Reply #43 on:** September 28, 2009, 06:54:09 PM »

Quote from: mon_of_steele on September 28, 2009, 04:13:30 PM

Photo against photo isn't the way to judge. They truly need to be side by side to really judge the detail, thickness and symmetry. No one argues that Nasser looks great but it's hard to compare the two by a photo. You can say dexter looked better with photos or even heath, but when you actually saw Jay standing next to them he DESTROYED THEM.

jay beat Ronnie when Ronnie was at his biggest....Nasser could never do that

edge goes to jay

karu · « **Reply #44 on:** September 28, 2009, 07:01:29 PM »

selling used underwear to homosexual muslim bodybuilding groupies = successful?

Yes Nasser is the most successful bb

Quote from: bigbobs on September 28, 2009, 04:33:28 PM

Right, because the more succesful people are usually "employees"

Actually Jay has the advantage in that photo comparison because Sherief put them at the same height even though Jay is shorter. Dexter and Heath are not good examples as they are both smaller than Jay and solo pics don't show that as much, but with Nasser that's not the case.

Hulkster · « **Reply #45 on:** September 28, 2009, 07:21:06 PM »

Quote from: Danimal77 on September 28, 2009, 05:31:01 PM

This is crazy!!!! So Jay Cutler was #1 this year. Reality check: he would NOT have been #1, or not even in the top 6 from 1995-2000. He is not a quality bodybuilders, with size, sick conditioning, striations, cuts and definition all over.

Levrone was better than him.
Wheeler was better than him.
Yates was better than him.
Coleman was better than him.
Dillett was better than him.
Cormier was better than him.
Vince Taylor was better than him.
Haney was better than him.
Mike Francois was better than him.
Shawn Ray was better than him.
Nasser was better than him.

Here's a question? Many of those men did NOT win a single title, yet they were ALL in a different league than Cutler at HIS best.

agreed. Jay is Mr. O because no one good is around.

Hulkster · « **Reply #46 on:** September 28, 2009, 07:22:59 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on September 28, 2009, 06:54:09 PM

jay beat Ronnie when Ronnie was at his oldest, most torn and worst shape.

corrected for accuracy.

he was not at his biggest when Jay beat him. his biggest was 2004.

jtsunami · « **Reply #47 on:** September 28, 2009, 10:19:46 PM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on September 28, 2009, 03:14:42 PM

Not beside the wizard

no freakin doubt, all hail 3x uncrowned Mr Olympia, pussy melting machine, movie star good looks, dog trainer extraordinaire, HUGE.....Nasser el Sonbaty.

jt

Royal Lion · « **Reply #48 on:** September 28, 2009, 10:29:41 PM »

Honestly, Hulkster's obsession with Ronnie, and Sharief and Bob's obsession with Nasser are just incredible. I don't think any form of Nasser would beat Jay, and only Ronnie in top form (98/99/03) would beat the 2009 version of Jay.

Jay dominated one of the most competitive lineups ever with straight firsts....give credit where credit is due.

kiwiol · « **Reply #49 on:** September 28, 2009, 10:43:29 PM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on September 28, 2009, 10:29:41 PM

Honestly, Hulkster's obsession with Ronnie, and Sharief and Bob's obsession with Nasser are just incredible. I don't think any form of Nasser would beat Jay, and only Ronnie in top form (98/99/03) would beat the 2009 version of Jay.

Jay dominated one of the most competitive lineups ever with straight firsts....give credit where credit is due.

Agree. This was Jay's 95 Olympia in one way.

If 97 Nasser had competed, he would have placed second because Jay would easily hold his own from the front and sides while blowing him away from the back.