Author Topic: Ronnie Coleman at His Best Couldn't Beat Cutler '09 (Read 38062 times)

Emmortal · « **Reply #25 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:33:36 AM »

Quote from: bigkahuna on October 01, 2009, 12:29:28 AM

mods please delete this thread

Racist post reported.

bigkahuna · « **Reply #26 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:43:06 AM »

Quote from: Emmortal on October 01, 2009, 12:33:36 AM

Racist post reported.

Mobil · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:56:23 AM »

yes... alot of racists on the board here......

TRIX · « **Reply #28 on:** October 01, 2009, 01:16:55 AM »

Parker · « **Reply #29 on:** October 01, 2009, 01:22:31 AM »

Hammer got what he wanted

The_Hammer · « **Reply #30 on:** October 01, 2009, 01:59:44 AM »

Cutler is way bigger than he was in '01

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #31 on:** October 01, 2009, 02:02:56 AM »

Quote from: The_Hammer on October 01, 2009, 01:59:44 AM

Cutler is way bigger than he was in '01

does bigger mean better??..

in 2001 his left quad was not "clearly" oversizing his right like this year!.. also i believe his back definition was better in 2001..

dragonfist · « **Reply #32 on:** October 01, 2009, 06:06:25 AM »

Quote from: The_Hammer on September 30, 2009, 09:20:56 PM

Ronnie never beat anyone the calibre of Kai Green, Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson, or Branch Warren in their primes.

Ronnie's main competition was Cutler who was 70% of what he showed at the '09 Olympia.

Dexter has looked pretty much the same for years and Ronnie beat him seven times(On the Olympia stage). Jay beat Dexter six times(On the Olympia stage). The only reason Dex beat Jay was the same reason Jay beat Ronnie; he was off.

Guys like Heath, Greene and Warren would have been destroyed by guys like Flex, Shawn Ray, Nasser, Levrone, Cormier, Cutler.... who Ronnie managed to dominate. To say that he never beat anyone of their caliber is ridiculous.

gcb · « **Reply #33 on:** October 01, 2009, 06:12:54 AM »

ronnie had shredded hard glutes - jays have always been soft - very important factor in schmoeville

The_Punisher · « **Reply #34 on:** October 01, 2009, 06:38:46 AM »

it's obvious this thread is as stupid as the person who started it

tendonitis · « **Reply #35 on:** October 01, 2009, 06:41:35 AM »

there have been a lot of insane threads at getbig and this one goes right to the top of the list

hench · « **Reply #36 on:** October 01, 2009, 07:58:28 AM »

I never liked ronnies physique that being said cutler 09 was nothing special, there are couple of shots that look insane, comic book like then the rest he looks sloppy, smooth, hardly any definition or vascularity. peak coleman beats 09 jay easily

The_Hammer · « **Reply #37 on:** October 01, 2009, 09:49:44 AM »

Jay had shredded glutes this year.

Royal Lion · « **Reply #38 on:** October 01, 2009, 09:53:32 AM »

Jay was great, but no where near the level of a 98,99,03,04,05 Ronnie. Ronnie vs. Dorian is arguable, but Jay wouldn't stand a chance against a peak Ronnie or Dorian.

Hulkster · « **Reply #39 on:** October 01, 2009, 01:35:48 PM »

I fell into the trap

Hulkster · « **Reply #40 on:** October 01, 2009, 02:26:16 PM »

jessega · « **Reply #41 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:53:03 PM »

When Jay Cutler wins five more Olympia titles, then we can have this discussion. Oh, by the way, lets see how many titles Cutler wins after the age of 40. Coleman is still #1.

Hulkster · « **Reply #42 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:02:02 PM »

Quote from: jessega on October 01, 2009, 03:53:03 PM

When Jay Cutler wins five more Olympia titles, then we can have this discussion. Oh, by the way, lets see how many titles Cutler wins after the age of 40. Coleman is still #1.

yup. there is no comparison..

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #43 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:02:58 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on September 30, 2009, 09:28:54 PM

How heavy was Jay? He seemed to be as big as Ronnie was, in the 2003 Mr Olympia (where he was 287).

And yes, I think a prime Ronnie and a prime Dorian would both have trouble with the 09 version of Jay. He was massive, conditioned and dry.

I think he was 270

Hulkster · « **Reply #44 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:04:24 PM »

its such a domination that one bodypart that everbody seems to have an edge on in Ronnie (abs) Jay doesn't even have better abs..lol

jays abs are gone..

so, he has better calves, and loses every mandatory LOL

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #45 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:04:41 PM »

Quote from: The_Hammer on September 30, 2009, 09:31:04 PM

By 1999 it wasn't how much muscle Ronnie added, just what condition he was in. The change from '02 to '03 was Ronnie not dieting as hard and covering up his flaws with water/fat.

This thread is hilarious. I like this guy.

kiwiol · « **Reply #46 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:06:01 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2009, 04:02:58 PM

I think he was 270

Thanks. Do you think the 09 version of Jay could hold his own against a peak Ronnie?

Hulkster · « **Reply #47 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:10:31 PM »

ND probably thinks Yokozuna could beat peak ronnie..

he'll probably make a long winded post about how Yoko has 'better muscular density, bulk, dryness, balance and proportion" then quote McGough and Horton for back up as it must be true LOL

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #48 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:12:58 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on October 01, 2009, 04:06:01 PM

Thanks. Do you think the 09 version of Jay could hold his own against a peak Ronnie?

peak as in 1998? 2001? he's be much bigger no doubts but Ronnie would beat him I don't think Ronnie would destroy him but I think Ronnie would beat him , a lot of people are underestimating Jay's showing this past weekend because they can't look past their own preferences , hell I write Jay off I said I think his best days were behind him he shut a lot of people up this year and he's still young and if he can maintain that type of conditioning he could keep winning maybe even more than Yates

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #49 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:14:34 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on October 01, 2009, 04:10:31 PM

ND probably thinks Yokozuna could beat peak ronnie..

he'll probably make a long winded post about how Yoko has 'better muscular density, bulk, dryness, balance and proportion" then quote McGough and Horton for back up as it must be true LOL

Peak Ronnie thinks Yates would beat Peak Ronnie

and Ronnie knows more about Ronnie than Hulkster