Author Topic: Ronnie Coleman at His Best Couldn't Beat Cutler '09 (Read 37951 times)

The_Hammer · « **on:** September 30, 2009, 09:11:38 PM »

Ronnie lacked the conditioning to compete with Cutler '09. Cutler was dier and bigger than Ronnie ever was.

The_Hammer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:14:28 PM »

Ronnie dominated weak fields of bodybuilders who hadn't reached their primes or were years past their primes.

Genius · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:15:23 PM »

Hulkster! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS THREAD, IT'S A TRAP!

disturbia · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:16:27 PM »

Quote from: Genius on September 30, 2009, 09:15:23 PM

Hulkster! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS THREAD, IT'S A TRAP!

The_Hammer · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:20:56 PM »

Ronnie never beat anyone the calibre of Kai Green, Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson, or Branch Warren in their primes.

Ronnie's main competition was Cutler who was 70% of what he showed at the '09 Olympia.

The_Hammer · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:21:52 PM »

Ronnie would appear bloated and water logged if he competed in '09. The top 10 of the '09 Olympia presented better conditioning than Ronnie ever did.

disturbia · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:25:39 PM »

quite the little conversation you got going with yourself here

The_Hammer · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:26:34 PM »

Quote from: disturbia on September 30, 2009, 09:25:39 PM

quite the little conversation you got going with yourself here

Please talk to me

kiwiol · « **Reply #8 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:28:54 PM »

Quote from: The_Hammer on September 30, 2009, 09:11:38 PM

Ronnie lacked the conditioning to compete with Cutler '09. Cutler was dier and bigger than Ronnie ever was.

How heavy was Jay? He seemed to be as big as Ronnie was, in the 2003 Mr Olympia (where he was 287).

And yes, I think a prime Ronnie and a prime Dorian would both have trouble with the 09 version of Jay. He was massive, conditioned and dry.

The_Hammer · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:29:38 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on September 30, 2009, 09:28:54 PM

How heavy was Jay? He seemed to be as big as Ronnie was, in the 2003 Mr Olympia (where he was 287).

And yes, I think a prime Ronnie and a prime Dorian would both have trouble with the 09 version of Jay. He was massive, conditioned and dry.

'03 Ronnie looked water logged compared to '09 Cutler.

The_Hammer · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:31:04 PM »

By 1999 it wasn't how much muscle Ronnie added, just what condition he was in. The change from '02 to '03 was Ronnie not dieting as hard and covering up his flaws with water/fat.

kiwiol · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:31:44 PM »

Quote from: The_Hammer on September 30, 2009, 09:29:38 PM

'03 Ronnie looked water logged compared to '09 Cutler.

Yes. Ronnie showed a bit more separation, but I think Jay looks better overall. Jay had the thickness and density of Dorian while having the size of Ronnie.

MattT · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:27:47 PM »

The_Hammer · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:32:31 PM »

Quote from: MattT on September 30, 2009, 10:27:47 PM

1998

Cutler would've dwarfed Ronnie '98

Mobil · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:54:50 PM »

ronnie owns jay at jays best sorry... thats the truth.....

Mobil · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:03:20 PM »

nobody can touch ronnie at his best... nobody... jay doesnt even come close.. sorry guys that just the facts

Danimal77 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:10:09 PM »

Jay is the best there was, the best there is and the best there ever will be.

aliamini · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:11:18 PM »

nice joke ... but not funny

Emmortal · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:13:19 PM »

Cutler>Yates>Schwarzenegger>Coleman

Mobil · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:33:27 PM »

ronnie set the standard as far as bodybuilding that nobody can touch... thats the facts

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:54:00 PM »

stupid thread because in 2001 a clearly off ronnie beat jay who was according to many at his best ever!..

Mobil · « **Reply #21 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:57:27 PM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on September 30, 2009, 11:54:00 PM

stupid thread because in 2001 a clearly off ronnie beat jay who was according to many at his best ever!..

but people said that was due to politics... jay looked better but ronnie won.. in honesty ronnie always looks better then jay, but that was his "bad day" .. still end of the day ronnie is better

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:06:08 AM »

Quote from: Mobil on September 30, 2009, 11:57:27 PM

but people said that was due to politics...

at his best ronnies back was out of this world, he was going to make jay of 2009 or any version of jay look like shit from the rear.. ronnie’s side chest too was phenomenal at his best and much better than jay’s.. ronnie’s mm was much better because of his huge hard detailed shoulders, not like jay who even at his best his shoulders look relatively soft (big but soft).. can you name one pose jay is better than a prime Ronnie in??.. the only pose I can say here is the FLS, other than that Ronnie was better or just the same!!..

Mobil · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:08:45 AM »

u didnt quote my whole scentence... i said... ronnie was always better but jay caught him in a off day... quote the whole scentence in instead of editing it...

bigkahuna · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:29:28 AM »

mods please delete this thread