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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2009, 01:32:36 PM »

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2009, 01:33:29 PM »
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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2009, 01:34:36 PM »
I'm shocked as hell with Jay this year... amazing size + conditioning... if anyone says anything negative about Jay this year it's just jealousy.

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2009, 01:40:31 PM »
FST 7? lol............. what an idiotic idea. if you werent gaining muscle you'd think you may increase your workout by a few sets or lower the volume

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2009, 01:41:58 PM »
holy shit, definitely better than his 2001 shape.

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2009, 02:46:54 PM »

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2009, 12:45:49 AM »
odds are he cut that damn cereal out of his diet he eats with toast.  bet he went back to potatoes...or kerry is back in the game as in 01?   

That is exactly what he did …

About FST-7 … he sued that for some time in his off-season … the he said he will do it on his own … I don’t think he followed FST-7 … which is volume training … but for sure he incorporated more reps and more volume … if he credits it to Hany … then props to Hany … but I guess jay got carried away the past years in doing what Ronnie was doing and duplicating his exercises and the method of performing them … maybe thinking it will end up in the same result it did for Ronnie

But this was one of the years that Jay stayed on hi carbs + cardio and just cruised to the show + the regular water manipulation

That’s my 2c


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Not to announce a disclaimer or such … but I am big fan of jay (the person) to me he is a true business/family man who really mad his way to face and wealth starting from nothing … u will know that is you read his book.

When u look at jay’s pix or video when he was your (teenager) … he had a wide waist + small arms which are his weak points … so his structure was like that since day 1 … I still disagree with his diet fort the past 2 years or more when he started doing the blood type diet … that thing never works … and having the Ezekiel bread and cereal in his diet instead of oats and rice was not what I recommend … too much of insulin would be a reason … as everyone has his own insulin protocol … mine is I use it for x number of weeks and the diet has 3 phase to it … and it is important to me that the bodybuilder doesn’t get fat during this period … others might disagree with me and say that while on insulin a person should eat everything … but once you plan to get I shape you will suffer a lot and sacrifice a lot of muscle … so my protocol has been working pretty well … but I don’t think he is using a similar approach … the water manipulation is a big factor as well … u see them drinking water till 1 day out form the show … well we all know that for every gram of carb u need 2.7ml of water to store it (specially in the carb up phase) but the idea of carbing up is loading the muscle to look fuller and most importantly to pull the water from under the skin … so your calculation should be less than 2.7ml per gram of carb … and the reason is your aim should be to get the rest of the water to be pulled from under the skin to complete the glycogen restoration process … when that is done you will be less likely dependant on hi doses of diuretic … which doesn’t go right most of the time … so the less diuretic you have to use the better … I do recommend diuretic but with moderation and try to keep it at minimal … there are 3 kinds of water retention and each one should be targeted to be pulled with sense … if your body is holding water cause of androgens … diuretics won’t solve the problem … it will make you look flat and might even increase the water retention …  so it is a complicated process and I don’t want to get too technical but I think most of the top guys who don’t nail it fail to follow the “Contest prep 101” standard operating procedures … which I think are known to most … or should be known to most of the top guys or the gurus at least …

The time for trying new stuff would be 5 weeks out of a show or at guest posing … and that is what I do … and all the blame that goes to insulin is right to some extend … the key to avoid that is … Never use insulin for carb loading … and I am sure you have realized with a lot of Olympians doing the same mistake realized it this year and brought it down …

I would also blame drug quality … as I am very specific o the quality of drug hat people use and am very specific on brand … cause there are a lot of shit in the market and this was visible at the Atlantic city.

I did mention previously about injuries and the reason that I think some of the bbers have difference size of each of their sides …

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I didn’t say he was carb loading with Ezekiel break … I mean to be honest even in 2006 he didn’t look all that good … Ronnie had a much better condition than jay … but they just wanted to have a new champ and blamed it on the condition and said “Ronnie looked phenomenal on Saturday but most of the judging was done on Friday” which is a different scenario every year and they said that ronnies left side was smaller that he right … jay was having the same problem but spot light should have been on Ronnie for this matter to justify the excuse of letting jay win … Ronnie was much better … it is not only the bread I think jays whole contest prep need to be changed not modified

I think the best thing jay should do is … stop training for some time and then go back slowly 7 months out of the O or so … then 2 months later gear up (with insulin-and should be monitored very closely) and bulk up … all in moderation … I think doses should be revised … and then have anywhere between 16 – 12 week of contest prep.  No insulin and no Ezekiel shit … go back to basics and keep in mind that the period between you teenage to your late 20s is a whole different ballgame than the period from your late 20s to mid/late 30s … and that is why he still can’t go back to the 2001 condition … id you do what you have always done you will NOT get what you have always got … key word is not … if a contest prep works once it doesn’t mean it will work again … the whole contest prep is tricking your body and forcing it to do things it doesn’t like … once you try to duplicate a certain approach it will not respond as the first time cause your body gets immuned/acclimated to it

Again … I would blame on bullshiters who call themselves friends … I am always know to be a very harsh critique specially with my athletes cause I tell what I see disregarding who the person in front of me is … friend, enemy of a 10 time world champion … if a guy loox like shit than he lox like shit …    and giving the edge to a person just cause he is the reigning champion is really retard as far as I see it … I see a lot of people in local gyms giving props to their friends 5 or 6 week out of a show while they look like 20 weex out and say that you look like Mr. O and you will win the show … and of course at the show he discovers that he was out of the top 6 of a regular show or sometimes they don’t even place … so bullshiting a friend isn’t friendship … it is hypocrisy … and all the Olympians are facing this epidemic




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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2009, 02:58:05 AM »
Better than a prime Ronnie and Dorian.


YOU MUST BE SMOKING CRACK!

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2009, 03:14:23 AM »
The haters still trying to hate  ::)  Cutler owned everyone, period.  True story, the end.
Not to toot my own horn (tooooooooooooooooooooooo t)but i DID predict this and was totaly made fun of!   All I can say now is   TOOOT   TOOOOT   TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT  :D
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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2009, 03:44:25 AM »
Greatest Mr. O EVER !!
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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2009, 04:39:52 AM »

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2009, 05:10:03 AM »
Ripped.  I'm guess he goes full bald next year.

yes
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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2009, 09:03:19 AM »
yes
that hair is going fast
kidding right????

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Re: Cutler 6 hours out from the O !!! FUCKING SICK
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2009, 09:04:39 AM »