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[gh15]

Hi there, i am new to the site but have been reading lots and i wanted to ask you what a good cycle would be for me to get on. I'm 6 foot 4 and weigh 210 pounds but have always kinda been the big kid and i want to get ripped. I have a friend who suggested anavar mostly because im an athlete and its safe. My major issue is i do not want to build very rapidly like i would if i did some d-bol, test-e, and tren. Its not that i wouldnt wanna get that big it is just i dont want it to be unbelievably obvious im using gear. I was wondering if you could give me some tips on what i should have for cycles, dosages and anything else you'd like to comment on.
I appreciate your time,
Coldshot

what anavar? you have lots of money to spend on anavar? most anavar today is fake,, unless you get it nordic approved and nordic wont let you in because no dealing with new people,, dont ever base cycles on oxandrolone no matter what you wanna be because this is not 1980,,

test prop
tren ace
masteron

thats all one need for being an athlete now days,,increase the dose and later add hgh if want to get bigger,,

another option i recomend

test cyp/enantat
eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it
turinabol



thats what athlete use just keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,

gh15 approved

[Tapeworm]

what anavar? you have lots of money to spend on anavar? most anavar today is fake,, unless you get it nordic approved and nordic wont let you in because no dealing with new people,, dont ever base cycles on oxandrolone no matter what you wanna be because this is not 1980,,

test prop
tren ace
masteron

thats all one need for being an athlete now days,,increase the dose and later add hgh if want to get bigger,,

another option i recomend

test cyp/enantat
eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it
turinabol



thats what athlete use just keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,

gh15 approved

Complete bullshit.  A g a week and it will be very obvious that you are using.  Gh15 is a dangerous fool.

Cold, I vote you eat right & lift hard, but if you really want some drugs then anavar aka oxandrolone (not to be confused with oxymetholone aka anadrol) is a relatively safe choice as long as it's the real mccoy.  20-30 mg/day for me wasn't noticably suppressive.  Higher doses got my veins popping more than I wanted and people were commenting.  You won't see 'steroid like gains' either, but it's a small step up.

Do your research.  Don't just load up on whatever some faceless joker online tells you to use.

[gh15]

Complete bullshit.  A g a week and it will be very obvious that you are using.  Gh15 is a dangerous fool.

Cold, I vote you eat right & lift hard, but if you really want some drugs then anavar aka oxandrolone (not to be confused with oxymetholone aka anadrol) is a relatively safe choice as long as it's the real mccoy.  20-30 mg/day for me wasn't noticably suppressive.  Higher doses got my veins popping more than I wanted and people were commenting.  You won't see 'steroid like gains' either, but it's a small step up.

Do your research.  Don't just load up on whatever some faceless joker online tells you to use.

my bitchy on period friend,,i am the reason you can give your experiences for every one to know,, in addition you can tkae 1 gram and look perfectly athletic if you train to look like an athlete and not a bodybuilder!
thats that

gh15 approved

[Tapeworm]

my bitchy on period friend,,i am the reason you can give your experiences for every one to know,, in addition you can tkae 1 gram and look perfectly athletic if you train to look like an athlete and not a bodybuilder!
thats that

gh15 approved

Still afraid to post on the steroid board because they'll see right through you?

So your advice is to take heavier doses and then undertrain?  That way no one will see that he's using?    Sounds healthy.


Let's see what the board says.  Who here thinks a gram a week for a virgin user won't be obvious?

[gh15]

Still afraid to post on the steroid board because they'll see right through you?

So your advice is to take heavier doses and then undertrain?  That way no one will see that he's using?    Sounds healthy.


Let's see what the board says.  Who here thinks a gram a week for a virgin user won't be obvious?

read what isaid again my friend,, i said  A GRAM AND UNDER! read before you talk ,, also it depends on his lean muscle mass he is at 210 lb he is big guy tall guy ,,and in addition i didnt say undetrain i said dont train like a bodybuilder or powerlifter ,,train like athlete there is a diff more endurance !

gh15 approved youre lucky im bored right now

[Emmortal]

Still afraid to post on the steroid board because they'll see right through you?

So your advice is to take heavier doses and then undertrain?  That way no one will see that he's using?    Sounds healthy.


Let's see what the board says.  Who here thinks a gram a week for a virgin user won't be obvious?

Depends on the training.  He'll get moonface and bloat and look "on" to those in the know, but he's not going get huge off that if he's not training like a BB'r or powerlifter, which is all he's saying and is true.

And he did say 1gram or under, not necessarily 1 gram.

[Tapeworm]

read what isaid again my friend,, i said  A GRAM AND UNDER! read before you talk ,, also it depends on his lean muscle mass he is at 210 lb he is big guy tall guy ,,and in addition i didnt say undetrain i said dont train like a bodybuilder or powerlifter ,,train like athlete there is a diff more endurance !

gh15 approved youre lucky im bored right now

Keep backtracking.  Maybe you'll manage to save some face.

Depends on the training.  He'll get moonface and bloat and look "on" to those in the know, but he's not going get huge off that if he's not training like a BB'r or powerlifter, which is all he's saying and is true.

And he did say 1gram or under, not necessarily 1 gram.

You're a good dude Emmortal but gh is way way off with this advice.  He said, "keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,"  He's not advising 200/wk with that.  He's telling this guy to use a g.  Maybe 900mg/wk.  Way way overboard for a new user who is looking to harden up and not be obvious.  Hell, I used 250/wk of Schering enanthate and people were asking questions.

Imo, use less & train more.  Not the other way around.

[Emmortal]

Keep backtracking.  Maybe you'll manage to save some face.



You're a good dude Emmortal but gh is way way off with this advice.  He said, "keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,"  He's not advising 200/wk with that.  He's telling this guy to use a g.  Maybe 900mg/wk.  Way way overboard for a new user who is looking to harden up and not be obvious.  Hell, I used 250/wk of Schering enanthate and people were asking questions.

Imo, use less & train more.  Not the other way around.

I've got nothing better to do here at work so I'm just rambling on.

[Tapeworm]

I've got nothing better to do here at work so I'm just rambling on.

Ya, I have to shoot.  I'll leave it to gh to explain how wonderful he is and how I misunderstood him. 

I still wish he'd be man enough to post on the steroid board with you guys.  He'd be like the Johnny Falcon of hardcore.

[_bruce_]

Spot on... Thx GH15 

[pellius]

another option i recomend

test cyp/enantat
eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it

Why is real eq so hard to get? Someone was asking about it over on Bill's BodyOfScience board and members, mostly Europeans, said it's easy to get and as common as dirt. Are they all getting fakes and don't know it? What's that gooey stuff coming out of China?

BTW, what did you do to Division? He hasn't posted since May though his account is always active.  And how much longer is GetItOnNY going to be in business? Can you hold off a bit on destroying him until he's finished doing the research he promised on protein powders? I really want to know if I'm getting what I'm paying for.

[UpTheDosage]

I love how people that have never used steroids before think that they are going to turn into the incredible hulk after 1 cycle and it will be so obvious that they are using.

[dustin]

I love how people that have never used steroids before think that they are going to turn into the incredible hulk after 1 cycle and it will be so obvious that they are using.

It's pretty hilarious. It reminds me of chicks who refuse to lift weights because they think they're going to explode with muscle. As if people without a myostatin deficiency actually run into that problem. I think most bodybuilders would love to have that problem. I know I would!

[rccs]

Real eq, IS hard to get in europe... there is a lot of scam and shitty products coming from china... Real eq is very expensive and comes from several labs that produce it underground in Portugal, Spain, Greece... But if one has good conections in Brazil one can order it from there, high quality too...

Why is real eq so hard to get? Someone was asking about it over on Bill's BodyOfScience board and members, mostly Europeans, said it's easy to get and as common as dirt. Are they all getting fakes and don't know it? What's that gooey stuff coming out of China?

BTW, what did you do to Division? He hasn't posted since May though his account is always active.  And how much longer is GetItOnNY going to be in business? Can you hold off a bit on destroying him until he's finished doing the research he promised on protein powders? I really want to know if I'm getting what I'm paying for.

[emn1964]

I love how people that have never used steroids before think that they are going to turn into the incredible hulk after 1 cycle and it will be so obvious that they are using.

a gram a week as gh15 suggested will be make it obvious he is on.

[Moen]

imo if you want to avoid looking 'on' I would steer clear of tren and test. Nothing says 'on' more than the red glow you get from using androgens.
Although I would reconsider your goal, if you don't want the 'on' look it might be best to just not be on in the first place 

[Spike]

I knew gh15 had something to do with nordic


 

[clued-up]

eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it

good brand?

[pellius]

a gram a week as gh15 suggested will be make it obvious he is on.

I don't know. I think UpTheDosage makes a good point. I mean, look at Sevaste. He says he's on 100mg/day naps and 1 gram/wk of sus. No offense intended but if I saw him on the beach or pool I wouldn't think he was on anything. I don't think he has especially horrible genetics. There are a lot of people I've know through the years that have been on a lot of gear but didn't even look like bodybuilders let alone a juiced one.

[hairyB07]

gh15 approved youre lucky im bored right now

Hey GH,
Do you think it is wise to advise on conditioning when you find it hard yourself to bring conditioning (the conditioning you have in your gym shots) to a competition stage?
What is it that you do 1 day out that makes you decide you wanna look flat on stage most of the time recently?

Just find it very hard to take advice from someone that can hardly bring it to the stage on comp day, thats all.
How did you go in this years Olympia?
Still top 6?

[claymore]

good brand?

Don't know about it know, but fort dodge was GREAT stuff back in the day.

[efanhowz]

anyone tried endosyn or gen-shi eq? WHAT ARE SOME GOOD LABS FOR EQ? i only mess with human grade but i was thinking about 500mg eq and 750 test for my next (4th) cycle. a lot of ppl dont report good gains from eq, seems like hit or miss

[pellius]

Don't know about it know, but fort dodge was GREAT stuff back in the day.

Made in the good old USA. A good friend of mine is a vet that works solely with horses and uses the product regularly. He use to use it himself and provide it to friends but now it's much more strictly controlled. I think he just reserves it for just his horses and himself (he's in his mid fifties and is in great shape).

[pellius]

anyone tried endosyn or gen-shi eq? WHAT ARE SOME GOOD LABS FOR EQ? i only mess with human grade but i was thinking about 500mg eq and 750 test for my next (4th) cycle. a lot of ppl dont report good gains from eq, seems like hit or miss

Who provides "human grade" eq because as far as I know it's a vet product? Sucks that Fort Dodge is 50mg/ml because that 10mls to get your 500mg.

[pellius]

u are such a dumb fuck honestly

u seen pics of me either clean or on 100 mg dbol daily ..nothing else

here they are

in either of these on the beach I look bigger than you

my genetics are levrone like compared to you amnesia boy

I'm not on 100mg of dbol a day and I am in far, far better condition than you. I'm sure if I trained and ate like a bodybuilder I will easily surpass you in a couple of months.