Author Topic: And The Left Wants Taxpayers to Fund This CRAP!!!! (Read 4768 times)

Colossus_500 · « **on:** October 21, 2009, 02:28:51 PM »

Most of you won't even try to look at these pics. And it's because you KNOW that this is so wrong!!!! Our tax money SHOULD NOT be funding abortions!!!!!

I'm going to post some of the images that I found during the election when trying to warn of what then-candidate Obama wants to do with regard to abortion and being a puppet to Planned Parenthood!

LOOK AT THE PICTURES, people!!!!! you KNOW this is wrong!!!!

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/behind-19/

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2009, 02:30:33 PM »

Quote from: Colossus_500 on October 21, 2009, 02:28:51 PM

Most of you won't even try to look at these pics. And it's because you KNOW that this is so wrong!!!! Our tax money SHOULD NOT be funding abortions!!!!!

I'm going to post some of the images that I found during the election when trying to warn of what then-candidate Obama wants to do with regard to abortion and being a puppet to Planned Parenthood!

LOOK AT THE PICTURES, people!!!!! you KNOW this is wrong!!!!

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/behind-19/

I would expect nothing less from this criminal gang of marxists.

Colossus_500 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2009, 02:40:15 PM »

Note that this is even from the NY ~~Slimes~~ Times

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2009, 02:43:52 PM »

Quote from: Colossus_500 on October 21, 2009, 02:40:15 PM

Note that this is even from the NY ~~Slimes~~ Times

Look, even deep down some of these people have to have some conscience.

George Whorewell · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2009, 02:56:15 PM »

Or more realistically, the fact that the NYT is bankrupt and hemorrhaging readers on a daily basis has impelled the powers that be to print some actual stories based in fact and reality.

Skip8282 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2009, 03:43:48 PM »

For cases of rape or incest, I have no problem with my tax dollars being used. For other cases, not so.

Colossus_500 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2009, 04:54:06 PM »

Quote from: Skip8282 on October 21, 2009, 03:43:48 PM

For cases of rape or incest, I have no problem with my tax dollars being used. For other cases, not so.

That's the argument used most often. Looking at the big picture, in cases like this, we're talking less than 1/2 of a percent of all the abortions that take place. That's just in the United States, where we are closing in quickly on 50 million (50,000,000) abortions.

Skip8282 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 21, 2009, 05:25:05 PM »

Quote from: Colossus_500 on October 21, 2009, 04:54:06 PM

That's the argument used most often. Looking at the big picture, in cases like this, we're talking less than 1/2 of a percent of all the abortions that take place. That's just in the United States, where we are closing in quickly on 50 million (50,000,000) abortions.

I'm not following. You're OK with taxpayer money for cases of rape and incest, or you're not OK with it?

If it's such a small percentage, then I would think that's all the more reason not to be bothered by taxpayer funding for those cases.

Bindare_Dundat · « **Reply #8 on:** October 21, 2009, 05:30:02 PM »

Quote from: Colossus_500 on October 21, 2009, 02:28:51 PM

Most of you won't even try to look at these pics. And it's because you KNOW that this is so wrong!!!! Our tax money SHOULD NOT be funding abortions!!!!!

I'm going to post some of the images that I found during the election when trying to warn of what then-candidate Obama wants to do with regard to abortion and being a puppet to Planned Parenthood!

LOOK AT THE PICTURES, people!!!!! you KNOW this is wrong!!!!

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/behind-19/

I looked at them and didn't think much of it. Sure in an ideal world everyone in the immediate family would come together to support the mother in raising the child and the child would be fed and clothed and loved BUT that's not the real world.

There are tons of cases where children are raised in shit moral enviroments, with a drugged mother, male partners that come and go, squalor conditions, no education, basically no hope for a "normal" upbringing.

You can get all emotional about the pics but the fact is I can think of many people that should have been aborted and it would have done society a lot of good, regarding saving more money in the long run and probably saving a lot more lives that most of these raised disasters would have affected in a negative way.

kcballer · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2009, 09:59:31 AM »

I agree the photos are shocking. It's something no one wants to see, but it's a reality of life as we know it. Abortion is here to stay. I think more money should be spent on education and alternative options i.e. free birth control, more use of adoption.

What i don't understand is the stance many people take about being anti-abortion, pro-liberty. If you don't want to be told what to do with your body, don't try to tell others what to do.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2009, 10:01:24 AM »

Quote from: kcballer on October 22, 2009, 09:59:31 AM

I agree the photos are shocking. It's something no one wants to see, but it's a reality of life as we know it. Abortion is here to stay. I think more money should be spent on education and alternative options i.e. free birth control, more use of adoption.

What i don't understand is the stance many people take about being anti-abortion, pro-liberty. If you don't want to be told what to do with your body, don't try to tell others what to do.

Some people consider abortion murder. If you believe abortion is murder, there is nothing to choose.

kcballer · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2009, 10:06:20 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 22, 2009, 10:01:24 AM

Some people consider abortion murder. If you believe abortion is murder, there is nothing to choose.

Yes some people do. Some people also think abortion is a right of the person carrying the child, not of the government.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2009, 10:53:15 AM »

Quote from: kcballer on October 22, 2009, 10:06:20 AM

Yes some people do. Some people also think abortion is a right of the person carrying the child, not of the government.

I am personally against abortion. I think it is a disgrace, an outrage, etc.

However, I think the govt dictating everything to everyone is a far worse sin in this are IMHO and thus the abortion issue does not really get me riled up too much.

BM OUT · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:17:39 AM »

Quote from: kcballer on October 22, 2009, 10:06:20 AM

Yes some people do. Some people also think abortion is a right of the person carrying the child, not of the government.

Hmmm,yet our vice president wont allow grown men to use steroids and thats why he pushed their rise to controlled substance.Very odd way of viewing the world.

kcballer · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:19:54 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on October 22, 2009, 11:17:39 AM

Hmmm,yet our vice president wont allow grown men to use steroids and thats why he pushed their rise to controlled substance.Very odd way of viewing the world.

No president or vice president or politician would support steroids use outside of prescription. I challenge you to find ANYONE on record in congress recently who supports or wants steroids to be available without a script.

Colossus_500 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:11:02 PM »

Quote from: Skip8282 on October 21, 2009, 05:25:05 PM

I'm not following. You're OK with taxpayer money for cases of rape and incest, or you're not OK with it?

If it's such a small percentage, then I would think that's all the more reason not to be bothered by taxpayer funding for those cases.

My point was that this small percentage does not justify taxpayer funds for the other 99.5% of abortions that occur in the US. It would be one thing if these 50,000,000 abortions were all related to rape and incest cases, but it's not the case.

Quote from: kcballer on October 22, 2009, 10:06:20 AM

Yes some people do. Some people also think abortion is a right of the person carrying the child, not of the government.

So, in your own words, it's ok for some people think it's they're right to kill the CHILD (which would be a small human being) that they are carrying.

I have questions for pro-abortion advocates (not saying you are, KC, this is to the general population of pro-abortionists)...Don't you have to possess life to argue for or against life?

Hereford · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:12:52 PM »

Hey Colussus,

So are you all for unwanted kids being born into the world then?

Is there a shortage of people these days or something?

tonymctones · « **Reply #17 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:27:22 PM »

Quote from: kcballer on October 22, 2009, 09:59:31 AM

I agree the photos are shocking. It's something no one wants to see, but it's a reality of life as we know it. Abortion is here to stay. I think more money should be spent on education and alternative options i.e. free birth control, more use of adoption.

What i don't understand is the stance many people take about being anti-abortion, pro-liberty. If you don't want to be told what to do with your body, don't try to tell others what to do.

liberty is one think KC personal responsibility is another...dont confuse the two

abortion in most cases isnt about liberty its about shirking personal responsibility

I agree that more should be done to educate and provide alternative options

Skip8282 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:33:49 PM »

Quote from: kcballer on October 22, 2009, 11:19:54 AM

No president or vice president or politician would support steroids use outside of prescription. I challenge you to find ANYONE on record in congress recently who supports or wants steroids to be available without a script.

That's not the point he was making. He's saying if you argue that women should have the freedom to do with their body as they please, then why shouldn't an individual who wants to take gear have that same freedom.

Skip8282 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:38:15 PM »

Quote from: Colossus_500 on October 22, 2009, 01:11:02 PM

I have questions for pro-abortion advocates (not saying you are, KC, this is to the general population of pro-abortionists)...Don't you have to possess life to argue for or against life?

I'm pro choice, but I need you to clarify your question, please.

kcballer · « **Reply #20 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:45:41 PM »

Quote from: Skip8282 on October 22, 2009, 01:33:49 PM

That's not the point he was making. He's saying if you argue that women should have the freedom to do with their body as they please, then why shouldn't an individual who wants to take gear have that same freedom.

I'm not arguing they shouldn't. The point i was making is why single out a vice president when NO politician is on record as supporting the use of steroids without a script.

Colossus_500 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:15:54 PM »

Quote from: Skip8282 on October 22, 2009, 01:38:15 PM

I'm pro choice, but I need you to clarify your question, please.

Sorry for the delayed response, bro. I missed your post.

My point in that question is that, in order to argue to preserve or take a life, you must HAVE life in the first place.

I've mentioned this before about this topic. Life never became more real to me than when I first saw my oldest child on a ultrasound. She was but a speck and a heartbeat, yet I connected with this human being and identified her as a part of me. It was life in is most infinitesimal form. It was amazing. It was at that point that I forever solidified my argument that life begins at conception. If you look at life from that standpoint, then it's hard to see how America allows it's citizens to inject saline into that "speck and a heartbeat" so it will stop living. Or worse, partially deliver a fully formed infant, only to crack his/her skull and suck the brains out....then deliver the rest of the body so he/she can be left on a table to die.

George Whorewell · « **Reply #22 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:27:03 PM »

I think abortion is too difficult an issue to be inflexible on.

I only support first trimester abortions and then after that I am totally against abortion under all circumstances ( unless its rape, incest or to save the mothers life).

When the mother first concieves and no vital organs have started to form, the child is basically microscopic. Its hard to argue that an abortion at that point is killing human life.

However, in America abortion is overused and some women use it like an effecitve form of birth control which is disgusting.

I can see both sides of the argument, but overall I don't think a black and white- all or nothing approach is appropriate. Abortion should be allowed with certain iron clad restrictions in place.

Colossus_500 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:28:52 PM »

Black people (I am black if any of you didn't know) have NO IDEA what they did when they voted in Barack Obama. All they saw was color. I saw content.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #24 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:32:09 PM »

Quote from: Colossus_500 on October 23, 2009, 02:28:52 PM

Black people (I am black if any of you didn't know) have NO IDEA what they did when they voted in Barack Obama. All they saw was color. I saw content.

Damn. Very powerful clip!